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This war was a project of Putin
I agree that Putin is playing a big role in the war in Ukraine. But do not forget that plays an important role and the United States. Civil war is a fact. To deny it is impossible. Even if on Donbass 50% of soldiers - Russian militias, the other 50% is Ukrainians who lived in the Donbass. I know people from there, don't say that you have no civil war. This war is logical, because the East of Ukraine was always Pro Russian and West Ukraine has always been about Polish or Austrian or German. Isn't that right? Not to say the absurdity - in the Donbas are hundreds of thousands of civilians. On them is the fire, isn't it a civil war? The confrontation between Russia and Ukraine began IMMEDIATELY after the collapse of the USSR. Crimea was a problem even then. Also how was the problem of Ukrainian nuclear weapons and strategic aviation. The problem was when the Ukrainian militia came to Chechnya. The problem was when Ukraine supplied Georgia "Buk". The problem was when Ukraine shot down Russian passenger plane. It was a time bomb. So wine Putin here is not large. Who was the President when the USSR collapsed? The captain, lieutenant? The problem comes from the cold war, from World war II, from the First World war, when the nation was permanently divided.
 
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I added "all = yes" but now it fires but only for one country, only for BEL.

This is my event and it worked:

event = {
id = 766502
random = no
TAG = { CZE HUN SLO }
all = yes


The only difference I can see is that in my event random = no is before the TAG ?

Just to sure, in case someone else tries this: The first event fires this event. The TAG list is in the second event.

EDIT: You should see the other countries events firing in the events list as the game proceeds.
 

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Who is Vladim Tudor? He is Death?
Is this a name for Death where you come from? o_O
It`s Vadim , not Vladim. And yes he died in september 2015 . He was the Big Romania Party (PRM) leader and he almost won the presidential election in 2000 . FYI He was damn smart , he knew everything about history , literature and other things . Too bad he died, RIP .
 

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It`s Vadim , not Vladim

Corneliu Vadim Tudor (Romanian pronunciation: [korˈnelju vaˈdim ˈtudor]; 28 November 1949 – 14 September 2015) was the leader of the Greater Romania Party (Partidul România Mare), poet, writer, journalist and a Member of the European Parliament. He was a Romanian Senator from 1992 to 2008. He was born and died in Bucharest.[1]

Where would we be without Google. In the library looking up references in books? Books ? what are those things?
 

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Corneliu Vadim Tudor (Romanian pronunciation: [korˈnelju vaˈdim ˈtudor]; 28 November 1949 – 14 September 2015) was the leader of the Greater Romania Party (Partidul România Mare), poet, writer, journalist and a Member of the European Parliament. He was a Romanian Senator from 1992 to 2008. He was born and died in Bucharest.[1]

Where would we be without Google. In the library looking up references in books? Books ? what are those things?
LOL . You replied just as I edited my previous comment :).
 

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This is my event and it worked:

event = {
id = 766502
random = no
TAG = { CZE HUN SLO }
all = yes


The only difference I can see is that in my event random = no is before the TAG ?

Just to sure, in case someone else tries this: The first event fires this event. The TAG list is in the second event.

EDIT: You should see the other countries events firing in the events list as the game proceeds.
I put random = no before TAG but is the same, i changed all those tags with ENG BUL and it only fired for ENG, would it trigger for BUL later?
I see that the event trigger only the first TAG.
 

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@Soul of Darknes :

trigger = {
day = 29
month = octomber
year = 2015 }

october is spelt wrong.
your trigger section should be much earlier in the event, like the first thing under the country

you should work with the error checker set to 1, and ON. It would have seen that error immediately.

##################################################################
event = {
id = 768501
country = ROM
save_date = yes

trigger = {
day = 29
month = october
year = 2015 }

date = { day = 08 month = june year = 2015 }
offset = 2
deathdate = { day = 29 month = june year = 2025 }

name = "Colectiv nightclub fire"
desc = "On the night of 30 Octomber at 22:32 PM a fire started at Colectiv nightclub during Goodbye to Gravity's metalcore band Mantras of war album release concert and from our reports a total of 27 people died and at least 150 injuried, The fire is the worst incident in Romania since Balotesti plane crash when 60 peoples died. The entire country was shocked by gravity of the incident and some even started to protest against the corrupt goverment, mayor Piedone and some others officials."
picture = "Colectiv_Fire"
style = 1


action = {
name = "What a tragedy!"
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = trigger which = 768502 }
}
}
 

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I understand what you mean and I also wouldn't like it, if the same would be happening in my country, but I also understand Putin. This mod will exactly show, that it's like a game of Emperors. One chess piece goes down, but the game continues. Everything was good, until the balance of power was turning against Russia, and Ukraine started to drift towards the EU, and NATO. That was too much for Putin, and after the USA mad an opening (Nuland), he made sure to get the best deal out of it. Putin is not a world conquer, but if he sees an opening, he takes it. If Nuland didn't do the things she did, than there wouldn't have been anything that the Russians could do. The real enemy is probably NATO. Why is Ukraine so important to NATO? The only viable reason is to counter Russia. So, than Russia is an enemy of NATO? I think it is simple as that. If NATO is continuously expanding, than Russia feels threatened and it will make its move. If NATO was the same strength and number like after ww2, than there would be no support for Putin. If NATO would be a bit more peaceful, than Russian people would support an industrialist, or populist and not an ex-KGB officer.

First and the most important thing - joinin NATO wasnt on priority list for ukrainians in 2013. yes opposition who take power after Yankukovich fled the country was proeuropean and pro-NATO but to join NATO referendum is needed and before russian aggression most of ukrainians thought that Ukraine need no to enter any defensive block. Why join any defensive block if Ukraine surrounded by friends, right? But now most of ukrainians would vote yes for joining NATO. And Russia cant blame anyone but itself.
When you ask russians why they took Crimea some of them answer "Because otherwise there would be a Nato base in Sevastopol" you know what ukraininans say to this? The answer of ukrainians : Well now you will NATO base in Kharkov (it is near russian borders)
Tell me why Russia fear NATO? They work with NATO quite a while until these events in 2013-14. Why Russia can be parts of NATO. Personnaly I think NATO may basis for ogranization of GLOBAL DEFENCE Progam in the future, which consist of armed forces of every country of the world.
 
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@Soul of Darknes; The event does work.

I played as RUS, I saw the event.
In the event log, I saw it register for ROM and BEL.

But the proof is here in the savedebug:

Auto Slider for ISIS...done.

Executing event 787506
Executing event 738002
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Executing event 780002
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Executing event 766504
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Executing event 787502
Auto Slider for ISIS...done.

My version: I changed it to June so I didn't have to wait too long. I rearranged the first event a little. I delimited the images, as they do not exist.

##################################################################
event = {
id = 768501
country = ROM
save_date = yes

date = { day = 08 month = june year = 2015 }
offset = 2
deathdate = { day = 29 month = june year = 2025 }

trigger = {
day = 9
month = june
year = 2015
}

name = "Colectiv nightclub fire"
desc = "On the night of 30 Octomber at 22:32 PM a fire started at Colectiv nightclub during Goodbye to Gravity's metalcore band Mantras of war album release concert and from our reports a total of 27 people died and at least 150 injuried, The fire is the worst incident in Romania since Balotesti plane crash when 60 peoples died. The entire country was shocked by gravity of the incident and some even started to protest against the corrupt goverment, mayor Piedone and some others officials."
#picture = "Colectiv_Fire"
style = 1


action = {
name = "What a tragedy!"
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = trigger which = 768502 }
}
}

event = {
id = 768502
random = no
TAG = { BEL BLR BRA BUL CAN CHC CHI COL DEN EST FIN FRA GER GRE HOL HUN IND JAP KOR LAT LIT LUX MTN PER RUS POR SCH SER SLO SLV SPA SWE CZE CRO ENG } #SCO U31
all = yes

name = "Colectiv nightclub fire "
desc = "The Colectiv nightclub fire was a deadly fire in Bucharest, Romania, on 30 October 2015, which killed 63 people (26 on spot, 37 in hospitals)[8] and injured 148. The fire, the worst incident in Romania since Balotești plane crash when 60 people died. On 31 October, the government decreed three days of national mourning,[18] which was the first time in 15 years when three days of national mourning had been decreed in Romania."
style = 2
#picture = "Colectiv_Fire"

action = {
name = "We should help each other"
command = { type = money value = -10 }
}
}
 

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It triggers in the same time for all countries?

Yes, here is the history file:

2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : Southern Front had Southern Front requests military aid. .
2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : Poland had Visegrad Group meets amid regional tension .
2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : Czech Republic had Visegrad Group meets amid regional tension .
2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Italy.
2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Mongolia.
2015-05-07 : 0:00 June 8, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Norway.
2015-05-08 : 0:00 June 9, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Japan.
2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Efrin Canton.
2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Oman.
2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Finland.
2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Ireland.

2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : Romania had Colectiv nightclub fire .
2015-05-09 : 0:00 June 10, 2015 : Belgium had Colectiv nightclub fire .
2015-05-10 : 0:00 June 11, 2015 : Southern Front declared war upon Syria.
2015-05-10 : 0:00 June 11, 2015 : Russia joined the war on the same side as Syria in their war against Southern Front.
2015-05-10 : 0:00 June 11, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Yemen.
2015-05-11 : 0:00 June 12, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Swaziland.
2015-05-11 : 0:00 June 12, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Kobane Canton.
2015-05-12 : 0:00 June 13, 2015 : Syria concluded a diplomatic deal with us.
2015-05-13 : 0:00 June 14, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Republic of Korea.
2015-05-13 : 0:00 June 14, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Georgia.
2015-05-14 : 0:00 June 15, 2015 : Al-Nusra Front declared war upon Syria.
2015-05-14 : 0:00 June 15, 2015 : Russia joined the war on the same side as Syria in their war against Al-Nusra Front.
2015-05-14 : 0:00 June 15, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Australia.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : Russia announces training exercise in Kaliningrad happened to us.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 1st L-AtkHeli Brig. Division was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 1st MLRS. Division was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 138th Motorized Rifle Brigade was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 200th Motorized Rifle Brigade was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 2nd 'Tatsinskaya' Guards Tank Brigade was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 30th Motorized Rifle Brigade was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 20th Motorized Rifle Brigade was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-14 : 1:00 June 15, 2015 : 1st AT Missile Vehicle. Division was assigned to Training Force.
2015-05-15 : 0:00 June 16, 2015 : We concluded a diplomatic deal with Comoros.
2015-05-15 : 0:00 June 16, 2015 : Poland had Poland says Russian tanks in Kaliningrad .

But as I said, I was playing as RUS, and I got the event. And the proof is in the savedebug file as shown.

AND if you wanted, you could set the dissent to 100 and then check for a country what their dissent is before you fire the event, and then check afterwards for proof the event fired.
 

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I agree that Putin is playing a big role in the war in Ukraine. But do not forget that plays an important role and the United States. Civil war is a fact. To deny it is impossible. Even if on Donbass 50% of soldiers - Russian militias, the other 50% is Ukrainians who lived in the Donbass. I know people from there, don't say that you have no civil war. This war is logical, because the East of Ukraine was always Pro Russian and West Ukraine has always been about Polish or Austrian or German. Isn't that right? Not to say the absurdity - in the Donbas are hundreds of thousands of civilians. On them is the fire, isn't it a civil war? The confrontation between Russia and Ukraine began IMMEDIATELY after the collapse of the USSR. Crimea was a problem even then. Also how was the problem of Ukrainian nuclear weapons and strategic aviation. The problem was when the Ukrainian militia came to Chechnya. The problem was when Ukraine supplied Georgia "Buk". The problem was when Ukraine shot down Russian passenger plane. It was a time bomb. So wine Putin here is not large. Who was the President when the USSR collapsed? The captain, lieutenant? The problem comes from the cold war, from World war II, from the First World war, when the nation was permanently divided.

It isnt civil war. If you say that east ukranians are pro-russian, why all other russian speaking oblasts of Ukraine didnt support this idea of Novorossia. By doing this agression Russia lost Ukraine forever, because many who were fond of Russia (inlcuding me) now see true colors of this country. By the way do you know that many volunteers who joined to defend Ukraine in the first months of this war were from the East Ukraine? You say that there is artlillery fire on civilians by ukrainian army? A wouldnt deny that it happend, becase this is war and when Soviet Union liberated it's land from German Reich I doubt they werent using artilery do destory enemy armies in the occupied ciites. And do you how many proofs in the web you can find where even people of Donbass say that militia of DNR/LNR use it weapons against people of Donbass. Why? So people would think that this is doiing of Ukrainian Army, as UA forces on purpose fire on cilivians. In this case I ask: Why would Ua army attack buildings of it own citizens, because after liberation they would need to restore all this damage. It's illogical. And ukrainians who live on Donbass wouldnt fire on their own homes. So who is firing then? I think - russians. Think about it? It is isnt their homes. it isnt their relatives. There were given an order and they just execute it.
About ua militia who help Chechnya. You what diffirence between them and militia of DNR/LNR? They werent supported by ukrainian goverment like DNR/LNR is supported by Putin. And by the way why Russia didnt release Chechnya then but now jump of its paints crying about right for Donbass to become independed. Two way standarts in action.
Next one nuclear weapons of Ukraine was given away instead gurranties were made by USA, UK and Russian Federation of independece and territory integrity of Ukraine which Russia now broke.
Next Buk which were supplied to Geogia. You know after seeing russian tv for what it is, I really doubt that Georgia make a first move like was stated in 2008 in russian media. So basicly even if Ukraine supplied Buk to Georgia, it had right to do it, becase it is supplies for the official goverment to a counry who defending itself against agressor.
And finnaly about the plane. First alll Ukraine payed a compansation to the relatives who died on this plane and Ukraine admited it guilt. Now tell me whan Russia will admit it guilt for shoting down Flight MH-17. And dont tell me about that this is Ukraine doing or even local militia. Buk is complex system of air defense so only professional militay can use. Oh and by the way Ukraine doesnt have to use any air defence in the ATO zone because DNR/LNR doesnt have any air force. So it was russian Buk. by the way it was recorded leaving to Russian borders by locals. You can find it on Web.
 
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Nova sorry for off top but I needed to answer above.
As for the mod. I cant wait to play it already. By the way given the unique geographical postion of Ukraine, it can be done ith mod multiply choices for Ukraine like joiing NATO, Russia coaltion or even make it own mark on history if there gain power really nationalists which dream of world domination:) Imagine Ukraine which rolled on its tanks troough Berlin and Paris. destory russian army in a series of blitzkrieg and land it marines on British Isles. XD
 
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Nova sorry for off top but I needed to answer this

I don't mind guys. I realise this is an emotional issue and understandably so. Please just be careful, we don't want the thread shut down by Paradox.

And JulianSol did the movie for the mod, and is doing events as we speak, so please be nice to him.

Cheers,
 

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@Khor, you know the rules on Paradox forums and some of the things you said in that previous post are just not allowed to be said.

So, please either remove those words or cut back on the text, but I can see this thread being locked at least if this continues. Thanks

EDIT: I really wanted to have a RUS v UKR part of the mod, but if it is just too hard to do without serious issues being raised then maybe I was a fool to think I could do it.

Can we stop this now, else I'll have to drop the UKR part of the mod.

Thanks for your understanding.
 
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