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Here isinformation how SHOULD look like a mechanized infantry brigadein principle: http://forum24776.ru/viewtopic.php?id=115
Russian motorized brigade equipment list

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All around the state 4393 Allofficers-------------327 Major General-----------------1 Colonel--------------------5 Lieutenant Colonel---------------29 Majors-----------------------43 Captains---------------------68 SeniorLieutenant--------181 Sergeants------------------1005 Soldiers--------------------3061adopted:
40 unitsof T-80, 1 unit of T-80K, 237 units of MT-LB, 18 units BM-21"Grad", 36 units of SG152mm2S19"Msta-C", 18 units.120 mm mortar2S12 "Sani", 12 units of 100-mm guns MT-12"rapier", 12 units Pself-propelled ATGM"Competition", 5 units of BTR-70/80, 4 units BRDM-2, 12 units of BMABM(3) "OSA", 6 units of BMA(35) "Strela-10", 6units of ZSU23-4"Shilka".
 
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I can help you with questions regarding Russia and the Ukraine. I have a few ideas regarding the area. Sorry for the wall of text in this post.

Some things about the separatists
The separatist area should be a single state, Novorossiya or New Russia. Novorossiya means New Russia in Russian, so it is up to you if you want to use the transliterated Russian name or the English translated name for the mod. NR should have claims on the entire southern and eastern provinces, and cores on the Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts of which they currently only control half of, here's a map, light green - claims, dark green - cores. The separatists have sympathisers in every province though, so if they get control of that territory it should become a core within 2 years. Donetsk and Lugansk republics are separate in name only, in practice they have a unified armed forces and rely on Russia for support anyway. DH mechanics would not work well with having 2 tiny states like that IMO, better to keep it as one state. And this is also the opinion of the population, they don't care about separate Donetsk or Lugansk polities, they care about forming Novorossiya, separating from Ukraine, and unifying with Russia. In that order. By the way your borders for the separatists on post #4780 are correct.
Suggestion for flags for NR: national flag, war flag. The "war flag" is actually much more common in public displays in Russia, Donetsk, and Lugansk than the "national flag" so you can use the war flag for both purposes in the mod if you wish.
There is an airport in Mariupol.
NR should be granting military access to Russia since game start.
NR units should all have anti-air attachments, this is actually very important as the Ukrainian Air Force was rendered essentially useless since mid-last year because of the separatist anti-air capabilities.
Also in the mod World in Flames 2, Germany gets a decision to have military control over Franco's forces in the Spanish Civil War, but they aren't actually in an alliance. If you can somehow do that for Russia and NR, Russia having military control over NR army but without being allied, that'd be the closest representation of their relationship.

Financial support for NR
Russia should be given a decision to financially support NR to varying degrees:
1) Totally subsidise (large support)
2) Partially subsidise (medium support)
3) Financial aid (small support)
This will give a steady supply of resources to NR so it doesn't just collapse.

Russo-Ukrainian War (Russian decides to invade)
Russia should have the decision to launch full-scale invasion of the Ukraine at any time, but at a high economical cost, and costly occupation afterwards (costly in economic terms, not military). Once Russia invades, you could have decisions for the EU countries on voting about sanctions on Russia. You could also give a decision for Russia to bribe one of the EU states to veto the sanctions. At the conclusion of the war, Russia should be given a decision on the fate of the Ukraine:
1) NR is expanded to all of its cores, NR gets 10% dissent lowered, Russia gets 5% dissent lowered, Ukraine gets 10% dissent, small sanctions
2) NR is expanded to all of its claims, NR gets 20% dissent, Russia gets 10% dissent lowered, Ukraine gets 30% dissent, medium sanctions
3) NR is expanded, Ukraine becomes a puppet state, Karpatalja gets independence as a Russian puppet state, Russia gets 10% dissent lowered, NR gets 20% dissent, Ukraine gets 90% dissent, very heavy sanctions
4) NR is expanded, Ukraine becomes a puppet state, Karpatalja gets independence as a Russian puppet state, Galicia gets independence, Carpathian Rus gets independence as a Russian puppet state, Russia gets 10% dissent lowered, NR gets 20% dissent, Galicia gets 20% dissent, Ukraine gets 40% dissent, heavy sanctions

Karpatalja by the way is what Hungarians call the Zakarpattia Oblast, in game the Hungarian majority-area would be the Uzhorod province in southwestern Ukraine. Here's a map for this
Russia could have a decision to offer Hungary the unification of Karpatalja and Hungary in return for Hungary leaving NATO and becoming neutral.
And Carpathian Rus would be a pro-Russian separatist state.
For options 3-4 Ukraine should then get a name change to Malorossiya or Little Russia, again pick which name you prefer for the mod.
New Russia and Little Russia should, at the conclusion of the war, become allied to Russia and each other, giving each other military access. And Russia having military access through both.
Russia should get a boost in monetary income (small one for 1-2, medium one for 4, and large one for 3) because it will no longer have to pay tariffs for the use of the gas pipelines running through the Ukraine, and will actually gain physical control over them. Russia should also get events about Ukrainian nationalist partisans attacking the pipelines in this scenario.

Russo-Ukrainian War (Ukraine decides to invade the separatists)

Ukraine should have a decision to invade NR any time, but if it chooses to do so, Russia should get a decision about intervention:
1) Aid NR with overt military action
2) Aid NR with covert military action
3) Abandon the NR

For option 1, Russia would declare war on Ukraine and everything else continues as up above.
For option 2, NR would be given some military units, Russia donates some supplies, and some manpower is subtracted from Russia and given to NR.
For option 3, NR stops being a puppet of Russia, the NR relinquishes military access and control for Russia, and their trade cancelled.

Ukraine shuts down Russian gas pipelines

For peacetime prior to war, you could also add a decision for Ukraine to shut down the pipelines (this will give a monetary penalty to Ukraine and a larger one to Russia, but decreases dissent by 7% for Ukraine), but this will trigger a decision for Russia:
1) Threaten Ukraine with war if it shuts down the pipelines
2) Do nothing, get 8% dissent

If Russia does threaten war, Ukraine should have the decision to:
1) Back down, get 5% dissent
2) Do not back down

If Ukraine backs down, Russia should have its dissent lowered by 2%
If Ukraine doesn't back down, Russia should have the decision to:
1) Declare war on Ukraine
2) Back down, get 5% dissent

If Russia backs down, Ukraine should have its dissent lowered by 10%

Moldova and Transnistria
Transnistria as well I think should be represented as a Russian puppet, with Russia having military access and military control over Transnistria in game. There is also a small 1,200 unit of the Russian army stationed in Transnistria, so you could represent that somehow. Russia could have a decision to get Transnistria to join the war against Ukraine. Meanwhile Moldova could take the opportunity of Russia's distraction in Ukraine by attacking Transnistria and bringing it back under Moldovan control. Russia should have the option to intervene against Moldova and liberate Transnistria if it is occupied by the time Russia re-enters the area. Russia should also have the option to liberate a "Republic of Gagauzia and Taraclia" (this is something I made up) in the province of Comrat on the map, and it would be a Russian puppet. A Gagauzia separatist republic did exist during the War of Transnistria, but it accepted to have autonomy instead of independence like Transnistria. Gagauzia is populated by Gagauzians (a Turkic people), while Taraclia is populated by Bulgarians.
Russia could then have a decision to offer Moldova to Romania in return for Romania leaving NATO and becoming neutral.

Belarus becomes a puppet
After the end of the war in the Ukraine, Russia should have a decision to approach Belarus about it becoming a puppet in return for a favourable trade agreement. Belarus would then have the option to:
1) Refuse and break away from Russia's sphere
2) Refuse but remain in Russia's sphere
3) Accept the Russian proposal

For option 1, Russia should have the decision to threaten Belarus with war if it refuses Russia's proposal. Belarus would then have the option to back down and accept Russia's proposal or still break away. If it chooses the latter, Belarus would break its alliance with Russia and relinquish military access for Russia. It would then announce its intention to join the EU and NATO. Belarus would also change its flag to the nationalist white-red-white tricolour to symbolise it breaking away from Russia. Russia would then have the option to invade Belarus and make it a puppet, or accept it breaking away and Russia gains 15% dissent.
For option 2, Russia here should also have the decision to threaten Belarus with war if it refuses. And then same as option 2, it can accept or break away from Russia's sphere and so on.
For option 3, Belarus should change its name to Byelorussia or White Russia. Again, go with the name you feel is better for the mod: the Russian transliteration into English, or the English translation.

Eurasian Union
The way I understand it, is Kazakhstan was reluctant to enter a political union with Russia without Ukraine there as well as a way to balance out the Russian economy. IRL Kazakhstan got it lessened to an economic union rather than a political one. Now that in this scenario of Russian victory, Ukraine will most certainly join it, I think Kazakhstan in this case would feel more pressure to join a Russian-led Eurasian Union. The other members of the Eurasian Economic Union (IRL) are more reliant on Russia, like Armenia and Kyrgyzstan and would join without a fuss. Tajikistan is the most likely addition. So the way this will work in game is Russia gets a decision to establish a political union with its allies New Russia, Little Russia, White Russia, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan. Seeing as how South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria, and Nagorno-Karabakh are in frozen conflicts, they wouldn't be official members however there should be some options to change that. If Moldova was annexed by Romania, then the frozen conflict does not exist anymore between Transnistria and Moldova, so it would be free to join the Eurasian Union. Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan should not be puppets of Russia, but members of the Eurasian Union should get a small increase to industrial efficiency or some other economic gain. Later there could be decisions for Russia to centralise the Eurasian Union, and Russia would annex the other members.

Russian separatists in the Baltic states
Now, this is the one that could be really interesting in the mod, potentially sparking WW3. It'd go something like "Inspired by the success of Russian separatists in the Ukraine and the expansion of the Russian world to White Russia and Little Russia, and angry at their status as second class citizens in the Baltic states, Russians in Estonia and Latvia begin forming militias and stage referendums in their regions on declaring independence and joining Russia". Map of ethnic Russians in the Baltic states
The separatist states would be called the Narva People's Republic and the Dvinsk People's Republic. On the E3 map they would be in the provinces of Narva, Estonia and Daugavpils, Latvia respectively. Dvinsk by the way was the name of Daugavpils from 1893-1920, since then it has been known as Daugavpils. As they declare independence, NPR should be at war with Estonia, and DPR should be at war with Latvia. Russia should then get the decision to intervene:
1) Intervene overtly
2) Intervene covertly
3) Abandon the separatists

For option 1, Russia would invade Estonia and Latvia, and another rebellion would occur in Lithuania, this time by Polish separatists in Wilno/Vilnius, who see the Russian intervention as their best chance for separation from Lithuania. They then declare independence as the Wilno People's Republic. I didn't make this up by the way, there is a Polish facebook page dedicated to such a scenario haha. Russia could then choose to support the separatist Poles or not.
For option 2, the NPR and DPR would receive some military units, Russia would donate some supplies, some manpower would be subtracted from Russia and given to the NPR and DPR Russia would also get them as puppets, gain military access, and military control over them.
For option 3, Russia does nothing, at the cost of gaining 12% dissent.
If options 2-3 happen, then some decisions could be made for NATO as a whole to either intervene directly, intervene indirectly, or sit back. Intervening indirectly will mean just the Baltics get some military units, supplies, and manpower but NATO won't go to war. If NATO chooses to intervene directly then if Russia chose option 1, it'd be cool to see some kind of limited war between NATO and Russia for control of the Baltic states, but I don't know if it's possible to have the AI fight only in a certain area while ignoring other areas in DH, so I don't know. If limited isn't possible, then this is full-scale war between Russia and NATO. If Russia had chosen option 2, then NATO could decide to invade the separatists, which will trigger a decision for Russia to go to war with NATO or let them beat the separatists in the Baltics.
Now should Russia gain control of the three Baltic states one way or another, it should get a decision to create to replace the three Baltic states with a single "Baltic Federation" and have it as a puppet state. I don't know what you should call this entity maybe "Pribaltika" as the name would be in Russian, but if you call it that then you should call Transnistria by its Russian name too then: "Pridnestrovie". I'm in favour of the Russian names by the way :)
The Wilno People's Republic would remain independent as a Russian puppet but there could be a decision for Russia to offer Poland a unification with the WPR in return for Poland leaving NATO and becoming neutral.

I can do some flags and ministers but I'm not sure if I could finish the latter because a lot of what I came up with hasn't happened. Flags should be pretty easy to find, or make them myself in FlagMaker. Let me know what you think Nova :)

Regarding my previous suggestions, I think some changes would make more sense. I think you should ignore my suggestion for Belarus and Russia invading it, as I don't think that scenario would really work, Belarus is not friendly with western countries, so it would not just cast Russia aside like that. And for Ukraine I think Russia would want to keep it united but under Russian influence, IRL it has maintained the position that Ukraine should become a federation with more powers for its regions than currently. So no more independent Galicia, Karpatalja or Carpathian Ruthenia, and when Russia succeeds totally, Novorossiya will rejoin Ukraine. The choices for Russia in the event of its victory against Ukraine should be:

a) Expand Novorossiya to its cores for now, (smaller increase of "sanctions" against Russia by EU)
b) Expand Novorossiya to its claims for now (larger increase of "sanctions" against Russia by EU)
c) Force Ukraine to become a federation ("sanctions" against Russia will slowly become removed)

Options A and B will create a frozen conflict between Russia and Novorossiya on one side and Ukraine on the other side. This means the war should be able to start up again if Russia or Ukraine want to.
Option C will make Ukraine become the "Ukrainian Federation" and it will annex Novorossiya. Perhaps you could have Viktor Medvedchuk as president. Russia could essentially buy Ukraine's loyalty from this point on via decisions giving it aid or loans or something. If Russia does "buy Ukraine", eventually Ukraine will drop its claim on Crimea (step 1), grant Russia military access (step 2), join Russia's alliance (step 3), and will join the Eurasian Union when Russia creates it (step 4).
 
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Regarding my previous suggestions, I think some changes would make more sense. I think you should ignore my suggestion for Belarus and Russia invading it, as I don't think that scenario would really work, Belarus is not friendly with western countries, so it would not just cast Russia aside like that. And for Ukraine I think Russia would want to keep it united but under Russian influence, IRL it has maintained the position that Ukraine should become a federation with more powers for its regions than currently. So no more independent Galicia, Karpatalja or Carpathian Ruthenia, and when Russia succeeds totally, Novorossiya will rejoin Ukraine. The choices for Russia in the event of its victory against Ukraine should be:

a) Expand Novorossiya to its cores for now, (smaller increase of "sanctions" against Russia by EU)
b) Expand Novorossiya to its claims for now (larger increase of "sanctions" against Russia by EU)
c) Force Ukraine to become a federation ("sanctions" against Russia will slowly become removed)

Options A and B will create a frozen conflict between Russia and Novorossiya on one side and Ukraine on the other side. This means the war should be able to start up again if Russia or Ukraine want to.
Option C will make Ukraine become the "Ukrainian Federation" and it will annex Novorossiya. Perhaps you could have Viktor Medvedchuk as president. Russia could essentially buy Ukraine's loyalty from this point on via decisions giving it aid or loans or something. If Russia does "buy Ukraine", eventually Ukraine will drop its claim on Crimea (step 1), grant Russia military access (step 2), join Russia's alliance (step 3), and will join the Eurasian Union when Russia creates it (step 4).

Thanks for your inputs ALVASV.

Remember, at mod start the player has 4 choices as to how he sees Putin? His choice will have different effects in how the mod plays.

I think if USA sees RUS as an enemy, it will use the UKR as a way to dislodge Putin from power in RUS. Remember in RL, when UKR blew up all of a sudden, who was seen in the UKR capital, the USA Susan Power? Wasn't she the one who said "Fuck the EU!"

I mean that showed me, that the USA was stirring up trouble in UKR on purpose, and I think in the mod, if the USA sees RUS as an enemy, then they will continue to stir things up there.

A UKR Federation would be a choice for the player seeing RUS as "don't know, what Putin is doing?" So, a kind of status quo situation.

From what guys have contributed, I have the impression that in eastern europe, old enemy feelings are just under the surface, and it would not take much for a lot of troubles to start up. One of the options is for various russian peoples' republics to start popping up in various neighbouring states to RUS. Those happening in the baltic states, would be the more serious, since these states are so small anyway to start with, and they tend to have larger, and more concentrated RUS populations?

But overall, for the mod, it being a war game, I'd expect WAR! ... eventually.
 

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WAR IN SYRIA:

I have usa attacking isis from the air, as do eng, fra and rus.
Rus is defending al-assad in syria.
I have al-nusra attacking syria.
I have southern front (al nusra) sitting tight in the south.
I have kobane- and efrin-canton kurds sitting tight.
I have syrian kurds sitting tight.
Turkey sits tight.
Persia has troops from time to time in its puppet, the stump of iraq.

I have seen isis annex syria.
I have seen syria annex isis.

I have seen persia annex the stump of iraq to protect the shia, when syria is annexed by isis.
I have seen isis attack all the kurds factions after they take syria.
I have seen turkey attack all the kurds factions after isis take syria.

I am at crunch time in the mod for the syrian war.

Either isis has taken syria or syria has taken isis.

NOW, usa and the west have to decide to put boots on the ground or not. Boots on the ground in jordan.
Rus has to decide what to do about syria, which is no-more? Continue bombing isis, invade to liberate syria, or nuke isis?
The Arab coalition has to decide whether to act with boots on the ground in syria or what was syria.

Will the usa let the arab coalition do their dirty work for them?
What will Putin do?

It is crunch time, the big powers need to decide what to do next...
 
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WAR IN SYRIA:

I have usa attacking isis from the air, as do eng, fra and rus.
Rus is defending al-assad in syria.
I have al-nusra attacking syria.
I have southern front (al nusra) sitting tight in the south.
I have kobane- and efrin-canton kurds sitting tight.
I have syrian kurds sitting tight.
Turkey sits tight.
Persia has troops from time to time in its puppet, the stump of iraq.

I have seen isis annex syria.
I have seen syria annex isis.

I have seen persia annex the stump of iraq to protect the shia, when syria is annexed by isis.
I have seen isis attack all the kurds factions after they take syria.
I have seen turkey attack all the kurds factions after isis take syria.

I am at crunch time in the mod for the syrian war.

Either isis has taken syria or syria has taken isis.

NOW, usa and the west have to decide to put boots on the ground or not. Boots on the ground in jordan.
Rus has to decide what to do about syria, which is no-more? Continue bombing isis, invade to liberate syria, or nuke isis?
The Arab coalition has to decide whether to act with boots on the ground in syria or what was syria.

Will the usa let the arab coalition do their dirty work for them?
What will Putin do?

It is crunch time, the big powers need to decide what to do next...

If Iraq becomes a rump state consisting only of Shias, I think it would become a formal Islamic Republic very quickly and come under much more Iranian influence. Funnily enough I had made a flag much earlier for a Shia "Islamic Republic of Iraq". But I don't think Iran would annex Iraq. It's a game I suppose though, you could have it as a choice for Iran: a puppet Shia Islamist Iraq, or annex Iraq and become the United Islamic Republic

How does ISIS annexing Syria work? I think it should be very difficult for anyone but Syria to get control of the coastal regions and the Druze areas as these are predominantly populated by minorities who I don't think would easily be taken over by Sunni Islamists, whether they be ISIS or the rebels. I think you would see much more mobilisation of the population and militias forming in these areas once ISIS or the rebels enter coastal or Druze areas. They wouldn't just be driven into the sea. IRL the war has been happening mostly in Sunni lands because Sunnis are divided between support for the government and support for the rebels or ISIS, but minorities are totally in support of the government. Perhaps if Damascus falls, Syria can get some irregulars in the coastal and Druze areas, and Latakia should become the new capital of Syria if the region hasn't already been lost.

Ethnic map of the Levant

This a good site by the way for maps of the Middle East: Gulf 2000 Project

Edit: By the way it was Victoria Nuland who said "fuck the EU" lol
 
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There could be a few "battle events". If Damascus is taken, than the Assad regime would get a big dissent hit, -Org, -Morale for troops. It is almost over for them. If Tartus is taken, than that means the Russian aid is temporarily stopped. (Also after a Russian positive reaction to Assad, the Syrian Government should get every two-three months an event about Russian arms shipment if Tartus is owned by them).
If Palmyra is taken by the ISIS, than there could be an event about destroying the ancient relics. Everybody would hate them more after it, but the radical Muslim countries would get positive reaction, and ISIS would get minus dissent hit (because in their territories their soldiers were praising it).
Russia would never use nukes on ISIS but that doesn't mean they would not invade. The only scenario in which they could use A-bombs, if the radicals would detonate one in Russian soil and it would be a retaliation, but that is unlikely.
The Opposition should start with zero dissent, and a considerable supplies and money amount, also with manpower, but every two-three months they should get an event about disorganization, desertion, failure of attacks etc. until they conquer the regime. Today in OTL the Opposition is practically finished. The Free Syrian Army is the past, there is no organized opposing army, only warlords, and factions. There are political enemies abroad, but in combat there is no "normal" army anymore, that is why the events should be made.
al-Nusra joined other smaller factions and made the Army of Conquest a "moderate" opposition in which they don't kill every single civilian that opposes them like ISIS....only every second or third.
I don't quite understand why but the Iraqi Kurds and the Turks are on good terms, and the latter is training man for the former. Why the hell would they do that? They bombed and attacked Syrian Kurd villages and shot civilians there, and simultaneously they are training Kurds in Iraq. This war keeps getting weirder by the day. (The only logical part would be maybe if they sow dissent between the two factions so they don't unite.)
I think in game turns there should be tags available for European Islamic nations. There are millions in France, Germany, Belgium etc. and some of them are quite radical. A lot of them are without jobs, while the government treats them as outsiders and the territories in which they live is almost autonomous. They only need a spark do some lasting damage. It's a crisis which can't be avoided. There is no good solution for this.
I think the 21th century has introduced a new kind of war. A bit similar to the former colonial wars and building of empires, but this time it's all about resources, and irredentism. In modern days every single country that has a claim that is official, or unofficial is described by former historical principles. If Russia would loose and Siberia would be born in a very alternate outcome, than China would invade parts of the mineral rich lands in the north citing historical texts, that it was former parts of China.
Hungary is the best and most closest to this. It wants to retake the territories, which were lost in 1920, but if they would be successful it would also jumpstart its economy, industry, army, and national morale and in a short make it a formidable middle power.
The threat of nuclear bombs is almost zero. I think a country should only use them, if most of its territory is lost in game terms. There is not one nation that would be stupid enough to ruin the planet by obliterating millions, and getting prepared for retaliation. A war between the great powers would also be conventional war. In the novel of Tom Clancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Storm_Rising the soviets are fighting the NATO in a conventional war. I think that is still relevant.
There should also be minor incidents with a low chance of war like the Greeks against the Turks. They are fighting non-lethal dogfights in an amazing number. They are very close to war every time.
If a war breaks out somewhere, than larger powers could decide to allow military companies to send soldier of fortunes to the warzone or not. If the target country in an event selects to pay for them, than the mother country gets the money for them. Like if Ukraine would select yes, than they would get manpower or maybe a division, but they would also get dissent hit, and loose money. If they select "We don't need this. It is a patriotic war." (Or something like that) than they would get minus dissent hit (the people are happy), and moral buff (the army is happy).
The sending countries should include every big player like: Russia, USA, UK, France etc.
 

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If Iraq becomes a rump state consisting only of Shias, I think it would become a formal Islamic Republic very quickly and come under much more Iranian influence. Funnily enough I had made a flag much earlier for a Shia "Islamic Republic of Iraq". But I don't think Iran would annex Iraq. It's a game I suppose though, you could have it as a choice for Iran: a puppet Shia Islamist Iraq, or annex Iraq and become the United Islamic Republic

How does ISIS annexing Syria work? I think it should be very difficult for anyone but Syria to get control of the coastal regions and the Druze areas as these are predominantly populated by minorities who I don't think would easily be taken over by Sunni Islamists, whether they be ISIS or the rebels. I think you would see much more mobilisation of the population and militias forming in these areas once ISIS or the rebels enter coastal or Druze areas. They wouldn't just be driven into the sea. IRL the war has been happening mostly in Sunni lands because Sunnis are divided between support for the government and support for the rebels or ISIS, but minorities are totally in support of the government. Perhaps if Damascus falls, Syria can get some irregulars in the coastal and Druze areas, and Latakia should become the new capital of Syria if the region hasn't already been lost.

Ethnic map of the Levant

This a good site by the way for maps of the Middle East: Gulf 2000 Project

Edit: By the way it was Victoria Nuland who said "fuck the EU" lol

Victoria Nuland, ok: you mean this was because of her! https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/13/the-mess-that-nuland-made/

EDIT: Sorry, when I'm doing events, I need to keep my mind on what I'm doing, else I lose track of where I am. I didn't mean to brush you off.

You have to remember that on mod start, isis are already in control of most of SYR, so they only need one or two more provinces, especially Damascus, and they suddenly have all of SYR. I've tried to even things a lot so the battle rages on for quite some time, but in the end, so far it has been one or the other who take SYR, I mean isis take it or syria hold onto it.

This is me watching the AI work, so it may be very different for a player playing either country?


There could be a few "battle events". If Damascus is taken, than the Assad regime would get a big dissent hit, -Org, -Morale for troops. It is almost over for them. If Tartus is taken, than that means the Russian aid is temporarily stopped. (Also after a Russian positive reaction to Assad, the Syrian Government should get every two-three months an event about Russian arms shipment if Tartus is owned by them).
If Palmyra is taken by the ISIS, than there could be an event about destroying the ancient relics. Everybody would hate them more after it, but the radical Muslim countries would get positive reaction, and ISIS would get minus dissent hit (because in their territories their soldiers were praising it).
Russia would never use nukes on ISIS but that doesn't mean they would not invade. The only scenario in which they could use A-bombs, if the radicals would detonate one in Russian soil and it would be a retaliation, but that is unlikely.
The Opposition should start with zero dissent, and a considerable supplies and money amount, also with manpower, but every two-three months they should get an event about disorganization, desertion, failure of attacks etc. until they conquer the regime. Today in OTL the Opposition is practically finished. The Free Syrian Army is the past, there is no organized opposing army, only warlords, and factions. There are political enemies abroad, but in combat there is no "normal" army anymore, that is why the events should be made.
al-Nusra joined other smaller factions and made the Army of Conquest a "moderate" opposition in which they don't kill every single civilian that opposes them like ISIS....only every second or third.
I don't quite understand why but the Iraqi Kurds and the Turks are on good terms, and the latter is training man for the former. Why the hell would they do that? They bombed and attacked Syrian Kurd villages and shot civilians there, and simultaneously they are training Kurds in Iraq. This war keeps getting weirder by the day. (The only logical part would be maybe if they sow dissent between the two factions so they don't unite.)
I think in game turns there should be tags available for European Islamic nations. There are millions in France, Germany, Belgium etc. and some of them are quite radical. A lot of them are without jobs, while the government treats them as outsiders and the territories in which they live is almost autonomous. They only need a spark do some lasting damage. It's a crisis which can't be avoided. There is no good solution for this.
I think the 21th century has introduced a new kind of war. A bit similar to the former colonial wars and building of empires, but this time it's all about resources, and irredentism. In modern days every single country that has a claim that is official, or unofficial is described by former historical principles. If Russia would loose and Siberia would be born in a very alternate outcome, than China would invade parts of the mineral rich lands in the north citing historical texts, that it was former parts of China.
Hungary is the best and most closest to this. It wants to retake the territories, which were lost in 1920, but if they would be successful it would also jumpstart its economy, industry, army, and national morale and in a short make it a formidable middle power.
The threat of nuclear bombs is almost zero. I think a country should only use them, if most of its territory is lost in game terms. There is not one nation that would be stupid enough to ruin the planet by obliterating millions, and getting prepared for retaliation. A war between the great powers would also be conventional war. In the novel of Tom Clancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Storm_Rising the soviets are fighting the NATO in a conventional war. I think that is still relevant.
There should also be minor incidents with a low chance of war like the Greeks against the Turks. They are fighting non-lethal dogfights in an amazing number. They are very close to war every time.
If a war breaks out somewhere, than larger powers could decide to allow military companies to send soldier of fortunes to the warzone or not. If the target country in an event selects to pay for them, than the mother country gets the money for them. Like if Ukraine would select yes, than they would get manpower or maybe a division, but they would also get dissent hit, and loose money. If they select "We don't need this. It is a patriotic war." (Or something like that) than they would get minus dissent hit (the people are happy), and moral buff (the army is happy).
The sending countries should include every big player like: Russia, USA, UK, France etc.

Nice ideas, I'll read back over this and implement some of them, as a refinement process to what I am currently working on.

I hope and expect to finish the syria scenario by tomorrow evening. After that its off the the mess Victoria Nuland made in UKR...

.. not forgetting the Spratly Island fiasco in the south china sea, which in RL is where I expect the action to be in 2016 ?
 
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I'm sitting here having dirty thoughts.
"Dirty thoughts" says you, "what are those?"
Well I'm thinking I'm nearly done with this Syria scenario.
I'm tired and irritable and I need a break.
Christmas looks a likely candidate to me.
But Christmas is ages away yet!

The mod is NOT done.
The mod is NOT finished.
The mod does NOT even contain half the stuff you guys gave me for it.
The mod may crash if you play it.
The mod may crash if you try to play a savegame.
But I think it MIGHT be good enough to play SOME.
For some, SOME is better than NONE.

So, these dirty thoughts, are making me think...
If I finish the Syria scenario tomorrow?
I could spend a few days just adding the stuff you guys gave to me already.
That would bring me close to Christmas.

I could release the mod, and UNFINISHED, still HALF-WORKING mod, but it might be a blast (I DON'T KNOW?)
It might be a disaster?

I think I'll plan for a release next week, before Christmas.
Now, see where dirty thoughts get you?

SO, what do YOU think?
Should I release or not?

EDIT: I will of course be back after Christmas to carry on and finish it properly.
There is still the UKR situation, the China Sea situation, and lots of other situations to mod yet.
 
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I'm sitting here having dirty thoughts.
"Dirty thoughts" says you, "what are those?"
Well I'm thinking I'm nearly done with this Syria scenario.
I'm tired and irritable and I need a break.
Christmas looks a likely candidate to me.
But Christmas is ages away yet!

The mod is NOT done.
The mod is NOT finished.
The mod does NOT even contain half the stuff you guys gave me for it.
The mod may crash if you play it.
The mod may crash if you try to play a savegame.
But I think it MIGHT be good enough to play SOME.
For some, SOME is better than NONE.

So, these dirty thoughts, are making me think...
If I finish the Syria scenario tomorrow?
I could spend a few days just adding the stuff you guys gave to me already.
That would bring me close to Christmas.

I could release the mod, and UNFINISHED, still HALF-WORKING mod, but it might be a blast (I DON'T KNOW?)
It might be a disaster?

I think I'll plan for a release next week, before Christmas.
Now, see where dirty thoughts get you?

SO, what do YOU think?
Should I release or not?
I think no ,make a break and finish the mod later when it will be ready ,the christmas release date must'nt be the objective.
 
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UPDATE:

I've overcome THE crashing problem in the mod. It runs ok now and for a long time.

I've activated Al-Nusra and Southern Fronts in the mod, before they were inactive.
Thing is, that when SYR has to send troops to reinforce attacks elsewhere than Damascus, Damascus is seen to fall to the Southern Front (alqueda); as Al-Nusra and Southern Front were receiving arms supplies to help fight SYR.

SO, this event has opened up a can of worms and interesting possibilities for modding...

My ideas :

Southern Front annex SYR.
Alliance with al-nusra.
Peace with all KUR if they become allies.
Peace with RUS, keep Tartus, become protector.
OR peace with RUS, but you are infidel and must leave.

ELSE, peace with USA if we (alnusra/southern front) drop alqueda links, USA will recognise us as legitimate new SYR govt.

ISIS
ally isis
enemy isis
peace with isis, but go elsewhere from here

.. this is as far as I have got. No images of Al-Nusra leader Abu-Mohammad al_Julani to be had anywhere.
 

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It is a real heartbreaker, when the mod just decides it's best course of action is to crash to desktop and savedebug says zero!

I have had crashing problems with this mod. I know I keep reporting that the crashing has been fixed. But what happens is that it DOES appear to be fixed, only to crash again a month later.

I am becoming a real life bug hunter. I am developing a pretty expert nose for finding reasons for the crashing. What gives me the confidence to say this?

BECAUSE I finally DID find the fucker and the mod is now not crashing..... Touch wood!

It was a persistent event that was causing the crash. The crash was happening at 5am on 17 august 2015.

Now the mod runs and runs.

.................

Update:

I have the Syria scenario almost done. Yesterday, alqueda in Syria started being able to beat the government forces an annex SYR. This made them Victors in the war. But RUS were still there, as was Isis as well.

I found all of a sudden that my triggers ( Syria gov does not exist) were now true and stuff was firing BUT the situation did not really suit the "trigger" situation. So today I need to go back over the written events and allow for more possible happenings, and tighten up the event triggers.

I will review next week if I think the Syria scenario is playable, and whether the mod is in a beta state or not.

Cheers
 
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I think Damascus should get 2-3 garrison divisions, that can't be moved. It would certainly be a mountain task to to capture it, or besiege it. It should be simulated like this.
Other thing: In case of Russo-Turkish war Turks should invade the Caucasus. Azerbaijan has a very good relationship with Russia, but it should ally itself with the Turks for territories in Armenia and the annexation of Nagorno-Karabakh, while Armenia should do the same with Russia. Georgia would have a 80-20% chance of allying with the Turks or Russians. Finally if the Turks can reach Russian soil somehow, than they can choose to support a new Chechen uprising. (The leader of Chechnya is pro-Russian, but he could always turn against them for the sake of the people).
Also if there is a full-blown war, than Crimea could declare himself a free country, which than would lead to Russia invading it, let them go, or Ukraine taking it back.
In case of Russian invasion to the Turk lands, there could be a lenient-mild-harsh peace treaty considering Istanbul (Constantinople), giving Armenia some land, along with a possible Syrian and Kurd land-grab, and if they really want to beat the Turks to half-dead, than after taking Istanbul, they also make a small Circassian buffer state next to this great city. The Russians would consider, that even if they take a little land, or just some concessions, the Turks will take revenge later, so beating them to a small useless part could have a very slow but possible chance. (I mean if they loose thousands of people, than they should get something for it).
ISIS should get events a little bit similar to Europa Universalis horde events. Let me explain. If they annex a country, or more important parts of the provinces which they claim, and they successfully hold it for some time, than they would get an event "The word of Allah reached them." or something like this, which would mean a little manpower bonus (forced recruitment or brainwashing), lower dissent (they should get a dissent hit regularly for what they are doing to the people, so they need to conquer territories to lower it), and some money, because they are looting everything they can.
Kurds should have a lot larger manpower pool, because they also use women soldiers. They can get a few movable garrison divisions, which use somewhat modern equipment, but they don't use it for offense, just for defending their lands.
A better picture for Abu-Mohammad http://alkhabarpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/أبو-محمد-الجولاني.jpg
You have misplaced him. He is not the leader of any Southern Front, he is leading al-Nusra, which should be named like this. The flag should be this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Flag_of_the_Al-Nusra_Front.svg
Some pictures for events:

Capture of Quneitra: http://www.alquds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/20ipj.gif (not actually taken by there, but it is good enough)
Introductory event: https://harastamediaoffice.files.wo...8_246132275538905_863426480_n.jpg?w=490&h=275 (which tells the player what the hell is al-Nusra
Indoctrination event: http://www.aljazeera.net/file/get/16127ec5-4be8-40af-9cae-eb8172f8725a (it should be about recruiting for al-Nusra, and a manpower bonus)
Organization of the militias: http://www.ammonnews.net/img/big/2013611345RN33.jpeg (an event after a few months which would be about making the al-Nusra fighters a proper army. Org, morale bonus.)
Capture of Aleppo: https://www.alsouria.net/sites/default/files/جبهة النصرة.jpg
Alliance with ISIS: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/...6GXvMrRZmEhPlo3i64DBHQhnF8D0qSsCM6Lh6dQioYqpa
Spoils of victories: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...U8IJ3nArlMRbeE3xDIyaUQyHag7XFEZ9fHiw0mM8eCa6g (after the capture of military equipment and the training of the troops the first proper military division is made)
Victory in the war: http://www.alhadathnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/لواء-التوحيد1.jpg
Damascus offensive: https://saqeralasad2.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/d8acd8a8d987d8a9-d8a7d984d986d8b5d8b1d8a92.jpg (if the al-Nusra faction have taken important parts of the country, it gets an offensive bonus)

What do you think?


If by Southern Front you mean the opposition than they could be easily named Syrian Opposition, or maybe Free Syrian Army.
Should I search for ministers for it?
 
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