Modern Day Scenario, towards Armageddon

[novapaddy]

@commanderx, please do that. Use normal dh units as all units are brigade size, I mean infantry etc. I have other units which I will post for you later ( when I get out of bed).

I recently read a book on the Russian civil war. It helped me understand Russia better.

With Putin now a player in the middle East, it raises very interesting strategic problems for everyone. This is why I am doing the mod.

In soviet times, Russia was always a friend to the Arabs, now they have returned.

 

[MrLevenstein]

I have downloaded the mod . But it is on the normal dh map not E3 . Am I doing something wrong ?

Edit:Nevermind .. I`ve read through the mds forum and I`ve seen that the E3 map ain`t ready yet .

 

[ModDayScenario2]

I have downloaded the mod . But it is on the normal dh map not E3 . Am I doing something wrong ?

Edit:Nevermind .. I`ve read through the mds forum and I`ve seen that the E3 map ain`t ready yet .

Sorry about that. I've updated page 1 to make things clear to any visiting player. Cheers

 

[commanderx]

On the topic of Russia supposedly claiming that the baltic independence was illegal,that was only a proposition from two minor politicians and has never been the stance of the kremlin.

Yeah I know , but I mean for an event I guess it could work , like two option 1)Dismiss this proposal 2)Of course they are illegal

 

[novapaddy]

PUTIN scenario:

REQUEST: I'm looking for a good front loading screen 1240 x 768 pixels, 24 bit colour.
The mod is called PUTIN, so please have Mr Putin as the central figure in whatever graphic you wish to contribute.

Ideas: Mr Putin is a chessplayer, he is a grand stragetist, he likes to show that russia is still strong and should be taken heed of. Please be respectful. This mod is not pushing any political agenda. The mod is totally neutral.

PUTIN has put his airforce and some troops into Syria. He has changed the middle east environment. He has upset everyone who's plan was coming to slow fruition, now their plans are dashed. What happens next...

Please post your contribution here, thanks.

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Since I'm using the TP mod map as a base for this scenario, I am keeping the TP list of countries, as this is the easiest way forward. So the countries are different to those in MDS.

Units: All units are brigades, please see below for the list:

0 infantry BRIG
1 airmobile BRIG
2 MOT BRIG
3 MECH BRIG
4 AT missile vehicle BRIG
5 armor BRIG
6 paratrooper BRIG
7 marine BRIG
8 bergsjager BRIG
9 garrison BRIG
10 HQ HQ
11 militia BRIG
12 multi role
13 interceptor
14 strat bomber
15 tac bomber UAV
16 naval bomber
17 cas
18 transport plane
19 flying bomb
20 flying rocket
21 BB missile cruiser
22 LC littoral
23 HC frigate
24 countermeasures
25 DD
26 Carrier
27 amphib assault ship
28 sub
29 NUC sub
30 transport ship
31 Lcarrier blank
32 rocket interceptor
33 RSV
34 RSV
35 RSV
36 RSV
37 RSV
38 RSV
39 RSV
40 RSV
D_01 INF Combat Team
D_02 MECH Combat Team
D_03 ARM Combat Team
D_04 satellite
D_05 specops
D_06 MLRS/smerch
D_07 hq heli
D_08 heli transport
D_09 air tanker
D_10 heavy attack heli
D_11 robot
D_12 light attack heli
D_13 Irregular Inf
D_14 Irregular MOT
D_15 Irregular arm
D_16 Irregular AA
D_17 Terrorists
D_18 Fanatics
D_19 UAV recon

 

[commanderx]

Syria could get event about barrel bombs for helicopters. Could give soft attack value increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_bomb

 

[commanderx]

Hey I have an idea, maybe replace head of governments for democracies with ''parliaments and what not''. Like for usa it would be Congress, for Latvia Saime, for UK , British parliament and so forth I could help , just say yes. because it feels weird , that in democracies , one person would be head of state and government .

 

[novapaddy]

Syria could get event about barrel bombs for helicopters. Could give soft attack value increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_bomb

Yeah, but they use these bombs on civilians, so the less said about that the better? I think for the mod, a bomb is a bomb. We have light attack helicopters (apache type) and heavy attack helicopters (russian type), which already have attacking parameters. I think the barrel bombs would be a home-made bomb device and less effective than what is already in the game?

Hey I have an idea, maybe replace head of governments for democracies with ''parliaments and what not''. Like for usa it would be Congress, for Latvia Saime, for UK , British parliament and so forth I could help , just say yes. because it feels weird , that in democracies , one person would be head of state and government .

To speed things up, I'm just having the 2003 governments to start with. I do have some new minister images sent to me (thanks!) and I'll put these into the mod. I can update the governments over time. Right now I'm still porting to the E3 map. It is a huge job.

 

[commanderx]

Yeah, but they use these bombs on civilians, so the less said about that the better? I think for the mod, a bomb is a bomb. We have light attack helicopters (apache type) and heavy attack helicopters (russian type), which already have attacking parameters. I think the barrel bombs would be a home-made bomb device and less effective than what is already in the game?



To speed things up, I'm just having the 2003 governments to start with. I do have some new minister images sent to me (thanks!) and I'll put these into the mod. I can update the governments over time. Right now I'm still porting to the E3 map. It is a huge job.

Well as for porting , couldnt you use the map from Turning Point ? And then from there adjust Central and East Europe ?

 

[novapaddy]

Well as for porting , couldnt you use the map from Turning Point ? And then from there adjust Central and East Europe ?

If only life was that simple!

I AM using the TP E3 map as a base to start with.
I have done all those changes of the countries to modern times, but not yet the country-breakups as in Syria. Later.
I also have to update every INC file to suit the new Techs, Units, Images, governments, government policies etc etc DONE

Now I have to update the:
techs to suit the new mod and add more, and then go back and update all the INC files again....
units, new units, new images, new everything
and all those other endless files that must be changed and then get rid of all of the errors.

Yes, still in progress...

How I do it is ... I get the map done, I add my techs and units etc, all the files that make the mod MINE!
I persuade it to open up so I can see it.
I then work to refine everything and get it working as per the new mod.

So, changing the map, isn't just changing the map, it is changing everythiing.

Even the TP countries are totally different to the MDS countries, so all this has to be changed.

EDIT: And then it is still crashing on load, but there are no errors in the savedebug, so you have to think, what have I done now to break it....? and hunt down the errors yourself. ... great fun!

 

[SniperX53]

Hi,

I've put together the UK cabinet which is applicable to your new scenario (UK Cabinet assembled in May, 2015 - Present day) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Cameron_ministry#Cabinet

• Head of State - Queen Elizabeth II - http://savvyseniorswork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/queen_elizabeth_ii1.jpg

• Head of Government - David Cameron - https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/567663852796399617/mYltRqyb.jpeg

• Foreign Minister - Philip Hammond - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...p_Hammond,_Secretary_of_State_for_Defence.jpg

• Armaments Minister - George Osborne - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/George_osborne_hi.jpg
• Minister of Security - Theresa May - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There...etary_and_minister_for_women_and_equality.jpg
• Head of Intelligence - Jon Day - https://www.rusi.org/images/library/LI5009362CF1A8E.jpg

• Chief of the Army - Sir Nick Carter - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Nick_Carter_100309-D-7203C-020.jpg

• Chief of the Navy - Sir George Zambellas - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...Sir_George_Zambellas_KCB_DSC_MOD_45154824.jpg

• Chief of the Air Force - Sir Andrew Pulford - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Chief_of_the_Air_Staff,_Air_Chief_Marshal_Sir_Andrew_Pulford_MOD_45155744.jpg/165px-Chief_of_the_Air_Staff,_Air_Chief_Marshal_Sir_Andrew_Pulford_MOD_45155744.jpg
• Chief of Staff - Sir Nick Houghton - http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00444/120511422_444054c.jpg

I like the idea that commanderx suggested, although I believe that Parliament should be represented in the game in a different way. (UK as an example) Parliament is the legislative element of democracy, which holds the executive to account. I believe that Parliament should be represented through a series of decisions which consist of a political agenda which can be decided upon by the player, as to whether said policy/legislation should be passed through Parliament or not. Although the decision by the player sort of contradicts the democratic principles, it would add some flavour to the decision-making of the nation, in my opinion. If dissent is too high in the nation (40+ for example) then a vote of no confidence could be proposed, which could get rid of the current government and start a general election.

I think some referendums should be introduced at some point too. Notable one for the UK is the EU in/out referendum which will be held by the end of 2017, or even as early as May of 2016 perhaps. A decision could be implemented which could have choices like: (Hold it now/Hold it later [insertdate:2017]/Call it off!). Calling it off could improve relations with European countries who want the UK to stay but cause huge amounts of dissent. Another could be a second Scottish Independence referendum at some point.

You could also have specialised elections in 2020, 2025, 2030 (However long the scenario goes on for) where you could select some of the political parties of the UK (E.g. Conservatives, Labour, Liberals, SNP, UKIP, Greens etc.) & maybe Leadership elections for some, too. For example, the recent Labour leadership which resulted in Jeremy Corbyn becoming leader. Also Conservative leadership elections in 2020, as Cameron said he would stand down as leader by then. Could be between (George Osborne/Nicky Morgan/Boris Johnson/Theresa May/Cameron decides to stay, etc.) You could also have the London mayoral elections in 2016.

Just random ideas pouring out of my head. I really wouldn't know how any of it would be implemented, so if it seems unrealistic, too much or just plain idiotic, then ignore it. I know Nova is pressed for time already and is surrounded by mountains of work, and it may not be of the highest priority. But I hope it provides some assistance to compensate for my lack of knowledge in modding.

If my cabinet list has incorrect ministers or someone is better for a certain position, then please correct it. I apologise if that is the case.

Rambling over. Thanks!

 

[novapaddy]

@SniperX53 ; thanks for the contribution, I am much obliged.

 

[Captain Julius]

@novapaddy Good luch with the scenario bro

 

[MrLevenstein]

Is there an ETA for the mod ?

 

[SniperX53]

@SniperX53 ; thanks for the contribution, I am much obliged.

So sorry! I forgot two government positions in my list. I edited those in and updated my list upon finding new figures.

Note: Jon Day is the head of the 'JIC' (Joint Intelligence Committee) and is part of the Cabinet Office, and is responsible for the priorities of all the national intelligence services. (MI5, MI6 etc.) I've assumed then, that he fits well with the position of Head of Intelligence, after much internal struggle within me to debate on who is best.

The Minister of Security is Theresa May, who is the Home Secretary. Added that one in now.

If anybody wants to offer an alternative who is better, then let me know.

 

[SniperX53]

If you would like any further help with the UK, like ideas for events and such, then I will be happy to assist you as well as I can. This has intrigued me today; it was quite fun.

 

[novapaddy]

@SniperX53 : Thanks again, please leave those images in situ for a few days. This hdd is dying on me as I work, so I'm planning to get a replacement SSD drive tomorrow and will have to then transfer my win7 OS to the new drive. So I won't be downloading anything today.

ETA: well it usually takes a month and I'm in week 2.

I'm planning the mod should be intensely today's position in Syria, Ukraine, South China seas, so the stuff I do will be for last week, this week, until I am done.
My idea is to set the mod up so that the player has to decide what to do, and hopefully have logical results to those decisions that he takes.

So yes, the USA and CHC have a spat in the south china seas over those "islands" that CHC has built there.
Ukraine goes quiet, but the baltic states are a different story... maybe?

PER troops on the Golan Heights when they have defeated ISIS?

Kurds for a new state in Turkey?

... any ideas?

EDIT: my overall idea is that a map published around 2006 by a US agency ? predicted chaos being created deliberately in the middle east, the resulting chaos was so bad, that the neighbouring countries agreed / or were pushed into agreeing new borders. I have seen this map and looking back and looking at today's situation, maybe this is what is really going on? I don't know, but ... search "chaos in middle east map" on google.

 

[Captain Julius]

@novapaddy would u like to give all the names from now goverment in greece? and pics for the army

 

[best Game Dark]

how can i play as EU?

 

[novapaddy]

@novapaddy would u like to give all the names from now goverment in greece? and pics for the army

YES please!

how can i play as EU?

I think it is more a NATO war than an EU war in the mod?