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I do not know if the next version is ready but why not an alliance between Iran -Syria , Cuba-Venezuela-Ecuador-Bolivia, China-North Korea etc.
Is it realist and possible for MSD2DH ? It's just an idea.
Is it realist and possible for MSD2DH ? It's just an idea.
I still like if Russia can become the leader of ECON.
Russia supplies Iran and Venezuela, so they rely on it. Russia also supports nuclear Iran and Syria. Ecuador and Bolivia would follow Venezuela I imagine.
North Korea would only have China, so them joining Shanghai makes sense.
Russia could perhaps pull in other rogue states? Pakistan maybe? Pakistan doesn't like China much due to territorial disputes and plus, it is somewhat close to Russia. Pakistan is suspicious of the U.S.
Perhaps Russia could coup Afghanistan or something in exchange for support against the Taliban. Russia could do a lot to mess up the Middle East with coups and support for Iran and the rogue regimes.
I see an expanded role for Russia, assuming Putin is in power.
If the communists win elections, though, it should change the dynamics of the Russian role in WW3. Closer ties with China would make sense, although as I stated before, I don't see Russia being subservient to China. That just doesn't make much sense.
Russia's entry into the war makes very little sense. Why would Russia attack the Scandinavian countries in the case of war with NATO when Finland and Sweden aren't even NATO members?
Russia supplies Iran and Venezuela, so they rely on it. Russia also supports nuclear Iran and Syria. Ecuador and Bolivia would follow Venezuela I imagine.
North Korea would only have China, so them joining Shanghai makes sense.
Russia could perhaps pull in other rogue states? Pakistan maybe? Pakistan doesn't like China much due to territorial disputes and plus, it is somewhat close to Russia. Pakistan is suspicious of the U.S.
Perhaps Russia could coup Afghanistan or something in exchange for support against the Taliban. Russia could do a lot to mess up the Middle East with coups and support for Iran and the rogue regimes.
I see an expanded role for Russia, assuming Putin is in power.
If the communists win elections, though, it should change the dynamics of the Russian role in WW3. Closer ties with China would make sense, although as I stated before, I don't see Russia being subservient to China. That just doesn't make much sense.
Russia's entry into the war makes very little sense. Why would Russia attack the Scandinavian countries in the case of war with NATO when Finland and Sweden aren't even NATO members?
OK, good to hear your ideas on what can be done in MDS2!
Yeah, I know the Shanghai Pact holds China and Russia, but I'd expect in reality this pact was a buffer against the power of the US? Possibly as China becomes much more powerful in recent years, and Russia grows from the stagnation of the post-communist era, I would expect they would separate as you guys have intimated above. So agreed, I think it would be better for the Shanghai Pact to fade over time.
I've just done my first war for MDS2 on the Korean Peninsula in 2003. A bit early I know, but after it dies down, you will have 1 year before it could possibly start up again...
I've spent 3 days doing that. Much longer than I had expected, but it was worth it to do the AI and sort out the units, as there were a few important mistakes between the units/techs/events, which was stopping some of my events from working. Sorted out now.
It was great to see the US strategic_bombers (B-52's ?) flying all the way from Brisbane in Australia and Guam to attack North Korea. I've made their bombing runs very effective, but not overly so. Even with the US invasion of Iraq going on, the West was very capable of sending troops to South Korea etc etc. I learnt a lot doing Homeland so I'm now using those tools in MDS2. ...
So I'm doing the AI as I go along. Fixed the US invasion ai of iraq, as they were too stand-offish. Now they get stuck in and battle in IRQ all the time. Of course this fix will now filter on into all the other ai's so things should improve a lot hopefully.
I've given both sides in the Korean war missiles and again it was good to see them being used. It all depends on the AI. Set to reckless, the DPRK fired all of its missiles at once.. destroyed Seoul etc... but set to defence, South Korea fired some and held on to most. Interesting...
There is an absolute LOAD of work still to be done. At the moment I haven't added any sprites, just using counters. But for the next release I plan to have all the sprites in use.
Version will take a bit longer I think, as stuff is taking longer to do...
I think that Shanghai Pact/SCO should be kept as it is as it's main purpose is to counter Western influence what makes them stick together apart some other things. Moreover, I like the SCO concept itself as well as Communist China and Right-Wing Russia are like ying and yang. When they were both Red, they couldn't stick together, but current combination of two superpowers looks amazing already due to philosphical-ideological concept. Of course there is rivalry among such powers, but it's often extraggerated due to political reasons (wish for another Sino-Russian split). After all, united EU is also much more relevant power than divided Europe would be, but this still doesen't make it serious rival of USA and there aren't any serious splits in NATO, at least in really relevant matters (which would be WW3 option in this mod).
However, another option could be to have both Russia and China leading their own alliances (Russia it's own CSTO) and China it's sphere of influence in Asia, just like EU and USA have their own alliances (continental NATO and Anglo-American Coalition) which unites under full NATO umbrella in case of WW3. Maybe SCO could play such role for two blocs in Eurasia that try to counter Western influence (unite CSTO and China's bloc under SCO umbrella). Another thing are minor proxy blocs (pro-SCO ones) like Iranian-lead ECON (IRL this is axis Teheran-Baghdad-Damascus-Beirut) and Latin American ALBA (Venezuela-Cuba-Ecuador-Bolivia...). There could be also some 3rd world pro-Western proxy alliances added, Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), bloc of Gulf Arab monarchies comes to my mind, plus there is also pro-French ECOWAS bloc in West Africa (they help France in Mali for example).
Otherwise there's no real need to change basic concepts of this scenario (I'm not against upgrades and adding new events). India and Pakistan, two flexible powers with lots of potential paths, are already very well handled in existing scenario. Otherwise, it is India that has better relations with Russia while Pakistan is considered more pro-Chinese (in fact territorial disputes between China and Pakistan are much less controversal than Sino-Indian ones). In case of tensions with India, it is considered that Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Myanmar could be in fact cards in Chinese sleve. If two relatively friendly blocs (that merge into SCO or simply enter war against common foe in case of WW3) will be considered in case mod leaders find effective SCO too unplausible, those states could be parts of Chinese sphere (maybe not real alliance during peacetime, but other things like good relations and guarantee of independence and even military access in certain cases could be used to simulate it, real alliance can activate during the war). On the other hand Russian CSTO could be real alliance from the start. North Korea would be in Chinese sphere, same with Laos and Cambodia, and maybe some more Southeast Asian nations (Indonesia...).
yeah... still too orange, but whatever floats your boat NovaWell comparing it to the previous screen....
@Zhetone and Asalto: Thanks for taking the time to give me some ideas.
I've copied them to my desktop and will now have a cup of coffee while I chew over what you have written.
I've just finished the DPRK war on the Korean Peninsula so it could be an apt time for RUS to back away from CHC in Asia? Is the DPRK worth having a world war for, I doubt even Putin would agree?
I've copied them to my desktop and will now have a cup of coffee while I chew over what you have written.
I've just finished the DPRK war on the Korean Peninsula so it could be an apt time for RUS to back away from CHC in Asia? Is the DPRK worth having a world war for, I doubt even Putin would agree?
Finally got it to work, Nova, just had to redo a whole lotta everything, hah.
Also, thought I should share this, me helping my ally Iran get rid of some rebels we discovered after invading Yemen. Needless to say, we were surprised by the 400 jihadist divisions
Also, thought I should share this, me helping my ally Iran get rid of some rebels we discovered after invading Yemen. Needless to say, we were surprised by the 400 jihadist divisions
Yeah, it is always a problem when guys offer events for mods. All it takes is a little mistake here and there and you can have chaos. This has been fixed. It still occurs, but in a much more subdued manner. Cheers
The new background looks great, aswel as the techlist but what exactly is a combat team?XD
about the alliances, keep them seperate indeed and when full scale world war starts they can become 1.
Unless russia becomes more communist by coup/elections then they should follow china earlier already.
about the alliances, keep them seperate indeed and when full scale world war starts they can become 1.
Unless russia becomes more communist by coup/elections then they should follow china earlier already.
@Jarno: There has been a revolution in military affairs beginning in America, where brigades replace divisions and the Navy, Airforce and Army all act as one force, all joined up by modern networks and satellite communications.
Read here: https://sites.google.com/site/usarmyforcecomposition/system/app/pages/sitemap/hierarchy
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wsh/
follow the links you find as the information is fully available and public.
Question about nukes, Don't know if it's been answered, but how do I actually use ICBMs? They work fine as strategic rockets when a nuclear warhead isn't equipped, but as soon as I put a nuke on it, All I get is 'None' for actions when I try to use it.
A timely question as I'm working on missiles and nukes right now.
I hadn't realised that this was the situation, so thanks for letting me know. I'll have to investigate.
For the new version, as well as having the usual flying_rocket and bomb, I've SCUD missiles (non nuclear, battlefield), Tactical Nukes (nuclear, battlefield), MLRS (multiple rocket launchers, non nuke) and Anti_Ship missiles (non-nuke), these worked so well that I had to tone down the stats, since enemy ships were sunk in large quantities, and since they take so long to build, it was too much.
Sorry I cannot help you yet, but I'll look into it and will find a solution. Cheers
OK, I've had a quick look.
In the events files, nuclear events.txt, a quick look seems to indicate that nukes are turned off by these events, and only then allowed if the country has lost 60% of its land area to an enemy.
You could change the event for your country here?
when a country with nukes get invaded it get option after lose of 60% too use or not. but i guess ai = 100% dont use. atleast never in my games.
Once 1 country use them, every country gets them enabled.
@edit; thanks for the links will read them later.
Once 1 country use them, every country gets them enabled.
@edit; thanks for the links will read them later.
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