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Lack of border tariffs do not a nation make. Free trades one thing but actual political union I don’t see it. France, Germany, Spain, Italy maybe But northern and eastern Europe and the UK would never unify with these, not politically. And as for the Eu’s economic power, France and Germanys economies with their 1 percent growth make ours look good.
But as for right now the scenario is set for 2003 and EU is not unified and America is not fascist today in 2003.
Now a poor axis of evil as it stands now would make a crummy enemy, the scenario would last 1 year.
I understand the tech problem but most European nations will start with advanced tech as per reality.
But as for right now the scenario is set for 2003 and EU is not unified and America is not fascist today in 2003.
Now a poor axis of evil as it stands now would make a crummy enemy, the scenario would last 1 year.
I understand the tech problem but most European nations will start with advanced tech as per reality.
You know this for a fact do you? And being from Sweden gives you some kind of extra knowledge of this?
You should know very well that there is a difference between scandinavia and "central" europe.
And besides, what level of "union" are you looking for?
-The removal of the borders? Hmmm..no problems working or travelling to another EU country...point invalid.
-Cultural differences? Gee....the US is the best example of how diversity is a good think.
You should know very well that there is a difference between scandinavia and "central" europe.
And besides, what level of "union" are you looking for?
-The removal of the borders? Hmmm..no problems working or travelling to another EU country...point invalid.
-Cultural differences? Gee....the US is the best example of how diversity is a good think.
Well, then this is one mod I won't bother to play! Trying to crush the "axis of evil" sounds rather...boring to say the least!
Trying to crush the "axis of evil" sounds rather...boring to say the least!
sad...sad...
Galleblære,
Name calling? I only see you making accusations, and I only see you "name calling". Sorry, but it is obvious that you get all angry and nervous because somebody disagrees with you. Its just a conversation, so please calm down. I don't believe that the EU will unite as one, and they for sure don't have the grand unity of politics that you claim they do. And also, you obvious are annoyed with me because I don't believe you little scenario is fun. I'm sorry, but I DISAGREE with you, i'm not "bashing" you or "name calling" you, i'm just representing my ideas and my disagreement, just like you were. Over and over again you claimed I was "bashing" you, so please just end it now. You are the only one being immature, I, and many others are just trying to work things out. If we all disagree, that's fine, but don't start accusing me of "bashing" you, because I don't believe in your idea of "fun", and I don't believe in your opinions, so please calm down, and let's just be cool, and try to agree. Ok? Thanks.
Galleblære,
Name calling? I only see you making accusations, and I only see you "name calling". Sorry, but it is obvious that you get all angry and nervous because somebody disagrees with you. Its just a conversation, so please calm down. I don't believe that the EU will unite as one, and they for sure don't have the grand unity of politics that you claim they do. And also, you obvious are annoyed with me because I don't believe you little scenario is fun. I'm sorry, but I DISAGREE with you, i'm not "bashing" you or "name calling" you, i'm just representing my ideas and my disagreement, just like you were. Over and over again you claimed I was "bashing" you, so please just end it now. You are the only one being immature, I, and many others are just trying to work things out. If we all disagree, that's fine, but don't start accusing me of "bashing" you, because I don't believe in your idea of "fun", and I don't believe in your opinions, so please calm down, and let's just be cool, and try to agree. Ok? Thanks.
Apology accepted Marty.
Lets not name-call her people. Can we have a intelligent conversition?
On national borders: if some proveinces are not filled..that would be a problem. Since you can't leave your borders unless you have military access or declare war you would never be able to enter those empty proveinces. Therefore they can't be empty. Sorry but there are going to need to be filled by the closet state or the state that has the most influennce over them.
Lets not name-call her people. Can we have a intelligent conversition?
On national borders: if some proveinces are not filled..that would be a problem. Since you can't leave your borders unless you have military access or declare war you would never be able to enter those empty proveinces. Therefore they can't be empty. Sorry but there are going to need to be filled by the closet state or the state that has the most influennce over them.
If you want to take the route of consolidating blocs into large superstates, I have a scenario that could work. It's set somewhat farther in the future (2030/40s) than the discussion has so far indicated, but its not so distant that the technology becomes a problem to forecast. It also mostly solves the problem of unbalanced alliances.
Thanks. I think we should just try and come up with an agreement, and we are all going to be fine in the creation of the mod.
Wait I enter empty territory when there is some (but ill check again to be sure). There just isn’t any infrastructure and your army suffers. But why do we have to move over all territory. Neutrality is a part of war and really these lands will be crap that is unimportant to any major war effort.
Empty territory in South America or Africa is relatively realistic, but it would be a waste to have unclaimed territory in Europe or Asia. Where is the empty territory located ? What continent is it in? Would it have any military or political value?
Right now its all Africa and some islands though that will change when everyone chooses the final list of nations. We need 131.
Well, I am sure we can find owners for the territories. Maybe a good idea is to have events that have territory disputes between two nations, and that would be a good way to fuel a war
Remember HOI is not like EU2 where all nations can wage there own little wars. In HOI its big wars that grow. In such an environment is there really a need for Cameroon? It be nice to have but its not important for a war in Asia or Europe. The same goes for several others. Now using Cameroon as an example we could have Nigeria have all of Cameroon and thus have an unrealistic bonus or we could just leave Cameroon blank. Most of the nations left out will be poor and in poor arias and that means that if we fill all spaces other poor nations will get bonuses that are unrealistic.
Well Marty, when you started saying I had a "fetish" with an evil America, I called it "name calling" Sorry then, if I was way out of bounds. Also, putting words in my mouth won't help your case. "Over and over again you claimed I was "bashing" you", "and they for sure don't have the grand unity of politics that you claim they do".
Oh, and give up the hobby psycho-analysis about my mental state.
Fact is, I presented my scenario, stated that I would put FUN over FACT, and put it in the future. You still have drag situations from todays world and use them as some sort of reasoning why my scenario wouldn't work! That is fine, but you keep on doing it, after I have stated the obvious several times. Hence me calling it "bashing". As in not being constructive.
You may notice, that I never "poked" at your own suggestion, I gave a view of what I think the HoI engine can handle, and what would be better, and make the sides more balanced. As other mods have shown, the HoI engine is not suited for longtime peace
And lastly, if you look at my former post directed to you, does it glow with hate or anger? Nope. Quite the opposite I would say, whilst your own post seems rather...upset. I rest my case.
Oh, and give up the hobby psycho-analysis about my mental state.
Fact is, I presented my scenario, stated that I would put FUN over FACT, and put it in the future. You still have drag situations from todays world and use them as some sort of reasoning why my scenario wouldn't work! That is fine, but you keep on doing it, after I have stated the obvious several times. Hence me calling it "bashing". As in not being constructive.
You may notice, that I never "poked" at your own suggestion, I gave a view of what I think the HoI engine can handle, and what would be better, and make the sides more balanced. As other mods have shown, the HoI engine is not suited for longtime peace
And lastly, if you look at my former post directed to you, does it glow with hate or anger? Nope. Quite the opposite I would say, whilst your own post seems rather...upset. I rest my case.
Not Again.
I'm not going to start this again, but I think your bashing must be imprinted in your head, because you still continue to bash after you said YOU (fixed, happy?) didn't bash me. It's sad how such a nervous person gets all bent-out-of-shape over a little disagreement. Sad.
Oh, and this wasn't a "bash" at all.
I'm not going to start this again, but I think your bashing must be imprinted in your head, because you still continue to bash after you said YOU (fixed, happy?) didn't bash me. It's sad how such a nervous person gets all bent-out-of-shape over a little disagreement. Sad.
Oh, and this wasn't a "bash" at all.
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Well, besides mixing up your "I's", "you's" and "me's", you just proved my point, junior! Well, carry on.
Originally posted by MartyWolf
I'm not going to start this again, but I think your bashing must be imprinted in your head, because you still continue to bash after you said I didn't bash me. It's sad how such a nervous person gets all bent-out-of-shape over a little disagreement. Sad.
Oh, and this wasn't a "bash" at all.
Well, besides mixing up your "I's", "you's" and "me's", you just proved my point, junior!
Well, carry on.
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MartyWolf, if you continue this behaviour, you might find yourself unable to access in the forum in the future.
Galleblaere, the same goes for you. I am confident you wouldn't want this mod gone.
This is an official warning to both.
Attention should now go to the mod alone.
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MartyWolf, if you continue this behaviour, you might find yourself unable to access in the forum in the future.
Galleblaere, the same goes for you. I am confident you wouldn't want this mod gone.
This is an official warning to both.
Attention should now go to the mod alone.
All remarks on the attacks above are not considered unwanted and will be treated as such. This is an editing forum only, please obey the rules.
Thank you for your attention
Over and out
Vulture