Modern Day Scenario for HoI

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Originally posted by MartyWolf
The Polish Leaders & OOB, is this Modern?

If it is, thank you VERY much.

Yes, leaders are 'generals and admirals in the activ duty, march 2003' (without medical officers/chaplains). OOB is also modern.

If you want, I can give you specific names/locations and government.

 

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OOB Site

Hello there.
I don't know if you already know this site, the following site has modern and recent OOBs, deployements, plans, and weapons for various countries.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/index.html

Hope this helps your mod

I agree with Damien, focus first on collecting data and modding, later you'll decide the actual scenario.

 

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Originally posted by MartyWolf
Yes, this is what information we need, but we do need locations.

Also, this isn't Japan's real Modern Day OOB, right?

This is just an example?

This is Japans army organization, to clearify on what kind of info I have available to me.

To make the modern day OOB it requires that the unit list are completed.


As with the locations of an exact artillerybrigade, does it really matter that much. Are you guys trying to create an Hoi mod or Operational Art of War.

 

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Re: OOB Site

Originally posted by maizenkor
Hello there.
I don't know if you already know this site, the following site has modern and recent OOBs, deployements, plans, and weapons for various countries.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/index.html

Hope this helps your mod

I agree with Damien, focus first on collecting data and modding, later you'll decide the actual scenario.

I don't suppose you noticed that I posted the exact same link just two posts above yours? Heh.

 

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Doh! Didn't saw there was a link in the sentence, thought you were refering to something in some post above.

 

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Any idea when this mod will be finished?

 

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Pakistan

Note: The Brigades are assigned to the corps, so I assigned them randomly to units within the corps.

I Corps
Located: Gilgit

6th Armored Division -Anti tank
17th Infantry Division
35th Infantry Division - Artillery



II Corps
Located: Quetta

1st Armored Division
14th Infantry Division -Anti-tank
40th Infantry Division -Artillery



IV Corps
Located: Lahore

10th Infantry Division -Artillery
11th Infantry Division

V Corps
Located: Karachi

16th Infantry Division
18th Infantry Division


X Corps
Located: Rawalpindi

12th Infantry Division
19th Infantry Division -Engineer
23rd Infantry Division -Artillery


XI Corps
Located: Quetta

7th Infantry Division
9th Infantry Division

XII Corps
Located: Quetta

16th Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division

XXX Corps
Located: Lahore

8th Infantry Division -Artillery
15th Infantry Division -Anti-tank


XXXI Corps
Located: Hyderabad

33rd Infantry Division
37th Infantry Division



Royal Pakistan Navy
Located: Hyderabad

Rough dates are provided for when the ship was launched so they can be assigned a class.

Submarines
Note: If one submarine unit stands for more than one submarine, don't do every one of these

Khalid (modern)
Saad (modern)
Hamza (Mordern -in build queue)
Hangor (1970)
Shushuk (1970)
Mangro (1970)
Ghazi (1970)
Hashmat (1978)
Hurmat (1978)
Cosmos (3 mini-subs)

Destroyers
Note: Refer to submarine note

Tariq (1945)
Nazim (1945)
Babur (1963)

Frigates
Babur (1975)
Tippu Sultan (1975)
Shahjahan (1975)
Shamsher (1970)
Zulfiqar (1970)


Missile Craft
Jalalat (1996)
Shujaat (1996)
Azmat (1983)
Dehshat (1983)
Himmat (1983)
Quwwat (1983)
Haibat (1980)
Jurat (1980)
Shujaat (1980)

Patrol
Note: See submarine note

Larkana (1993)
Rajshahi (1964)
Pishin (1970)
Bahawalpur (1970)
Sabqat (1970)
Rafaqat (1970)
Barkat (1990)
Rehmat (1990)
Nusrat (1990)
Vehdat (1990)

Army Aviation Corps
Located: Sukkar (for lack of a better place)

100 Helicopters

Pakistan Air Force
Note: I couldn't figure out the site very well so I'm just kind of making up names. I don't know which planes are bombers and which classify as fighters, so you decide.

Location: Sukkur (for lack of a better place)

No. 1 Squadron - Strength 100- Old Chinese MiG-19's
No. 2 Squadron - Strength 75- Chinese Mig-21F's
No. 3 Squadron - Strength 50 - Chinese A-5M's
No. 4 Squadron - Strength 50 - Mirage 5's
No. 5 Squadron -Strength 90 - Mirage III's
No. 6 Squadron -Strength 33 - F-16's

 

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Thanks for this great help!

If any of you are nice enough, and know how to edit/mod, then please send me finished Minster or Leaders files, or finished OOBs in HoI format to SomethingOutOfNothing@hotmail.com

Thanks.

 

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India
Note- Brigades independantly part of a corps are assigned randomly to divisions within the corps. I'm assuming that RAPID divisions are mechanized but I'm not sure.

Northern Command
Location: Srinagar
3rd Infantry Division -Artillery
8th Mountain Division
19th Infantry Division
28th Mountain Division -Artillery
57th Mountain Division
10th Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division
26th Infantry Division -Engineer
29th Infantry Division
39th Infantry Division -Artillery

Western Command
Location: Bikaner

1st Armored Division -Engineer
14th RAPID Div - Artillery (Mechanized)
22nd Infantry Division -Artillery
16th Infantry Division -Artillery
18th RAPID (Mechanized)
24th RAPID (Mechanized)
7th Infantry Division
9th Infantry Division -Artillery
15th Infantry Division -Engineer

Southern Command
Location: Poona
Note: Simplified by moving some units from Bhopal to Poona. It would be too difficult to tranlate to HoI terms if I didn't.

50th Ind Parachute -Strength 30
11th Infantry Division -Artillery
12th Infantry Division -Artillery
33rd Armored Division -Artillery
36th RAPID -Anti-air (mechanized)
54th Infantry Division -Engineer
33rd Armored Division


Central Command
Location: Lucknow

4th Infantry Division -Engineer
6th Mountain Division -Artillery
31st Armored Division -Anti-air


Eastern Command
Location: Calcutta (or Tezpur if Calcutta belongs to Bangladesh)

23rd Infantry Division
57th Mountain Division -Artillery
2nd Mountain Division -Artillery
5th Mountain Division
21st Mountain Division
17th Mountain Division -Artillery
20th Mountain Division
27th Mountain Division

Territorial Army
Note: All are MILITIA units. Some liberties taken. Using battalion names.

Gp HQ, Southern Command -Engineer
101 Inf Bn Maratha LI -Engineer
1052 Rly Engr -Engineer


Note: For Naval vessels, a rough commission date is given in order to be able to roughly determine a given ship's class.

Note: If one ship unit counts for more than one ship, then do not use all of these names. This may apply to submarines and other things.

Note: Only two home ports were discovered, ships without an identifiable home port were assigned to one of the two.

Main Indian Naval Fleet (For lack of a better name)

Carriers:
Virat (Launched in 1950's)

Destroyers:
Delhi (1997)
Mysore (1999)
Mumbai (2001)
Rajput (1980)
Rana (1980)
Ranvijay (1988)

Submarines:
Vagli (1974)
Kandhera (1968)
Karanj (1968)
Shishumar (1985)
Shankush (1985)
Shalki (1992)
Shankul (1994)

Frigates:
Godavari (1983)
Gomti (1988)
Betwa (2003)
Himgiri (1974)
Dunagiri (1977)
Taragiri (1980)

Corvettes:
Savitri (1990)
Sarayu (1990)
Sharda (1990)
Sujatha (1993)
Khanjar (1990)
Kirch (2001)
Kulish (2001)
Karmukh (2003)
Vijaydurg (1976)
Veer (1990)
Nirbhik (1990)
Nipat (1990)
Nishank (1990)
Nirghat (1990)
Vibhuti (1990)
Prabal (2000)
Pralaya (2002)
Abhay (1990)
Ajay (1990)

2nd Indian Fleet (for lack of a better term)
Location: Madras


Submarines:
Sindhughosh (1990)
Sindhuhvaj (1990)
Sindhuraj (1990)
Sindhuvir (1990)
Sindhuratna (1990)
Sindhukesari (1990)
Sindhukriti (1990)
Sindhuvijay (1990)
Sindhurakshak (1997)
Sindhushastra (2000)
Vela (1973)

Destroyers:
Ranjit (1983)
Ranvir (1986)

Frigates:
Ganga (1985)
Brahmaputra (2000)
Beas (2002)
Vindhyagiri (1980)

Corvettes:
Sukanya (1990)
Subhadra (1990)
Suvarna (1990)
Khukri (1990)
Khutar (1990)
Kirpan (1990)
Kora (1998)
Anjadip (1972)
Amini (1975)
Androth (1972)
Vipul (1992)
Vinash (1992)
Vidyut (1995)
Nashak (1995)
Prahar (1995)
Akshay (1990)
Agray (1990)

Air Command HQ
Location: Delhi

Squadron 4 "Oorials" -Strength 30- Indian Su-30K's
Squadron 12 - Agra -Strength 40- French Mirage 2000's -Strength 85- Jaguar S(I)'s
Squadron 2 - Hindan -Strength 65- Mig-29/UB's
Squadron 5 "Tuskers" -Strength 100- Mig-27's
Squadron 21 "Ankush" -Strength 35- Mig-27's
Squadron 25 "Himalayan Eagles" -Strength 50- Mig-23 BN/UM's
Squadron 221 - Halwara -Strength 55- Mig-21 MF/PFMA's
Squadron 20 - Kalaikunda -Strength 65- Mig-21 FL/U's
Squadron 41 "Otters" -Strength 65- Mig-21 bis/U's
Squadron 49 - Jorhat -Strength 100- Mig-21 bis/U's
Helicopter Unit 110 "Vanguards" -Strength 50- Mi-25/35's

500 transport planes, I lost track of how many of those are needed per division.

 

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I can't send you it in HoI format until I understand the tech tree and types of units you will be using. Aircraft types, ship types, etc...

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
I can't send you it in HoI format until I understand the tech tree and types of units you will be using. Aircraft types, ship types, etc...

as I asked for earlier. Has there been any ideas on this front. Don't have the strength to read trough all the previous posts.

 

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This site also seems to be a good one. It doesn't match globalsecurity's detail, so if you use this one then you may have to make some names and locations up.

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
This site also seems to be a good one. It doesn't match globalsecurity's detail, so if you use this one then you may have to make some names and locations up.

this site is a demo site,it requires a subscription to get the info you want.

 

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Ah, nevermind. It had some information on Taiwan I was looking for and I didn't bother to look much at the other countries. Maybe the Taiwan information slipped through.

 

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http://europa.eu.int/abc/governments/index_en.htm#members

Go to this page to see the governments for all european countries, in EU and others.

 

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Originally posted by Maggern2k
http://europa.eu.int/abc/governments/index_en.htm#members

Go to this page to see the governments for all european countries, in EU and others.

I'll take a look at it, thanks.

 

[Buke]

Well it’s been awhile since i posted here so I thought I would let you guys know what’s going on.
Sorry for being inactive but I recently got a new job anyway I have polished up the map a bit and have been messing around with ICs, infrastructure, and things like that. At first I thought the US would have too much power with over 1700 ICs but with its consumer goods requirements hiked up, as they are the actual IC use of America is on par with Western Europe. When America goes to war however its only limited by manpower so from my early observations the game should be far more balanced than we first thought.

I was thinking about the tech and starting with 1960s tech seems right. Now assuming that the levels of units are fixed (ex: prewar, basic, improved, advanced, Simi modern) that would allow 2-3 levels still to be developed in the First world.
That was not very clear so I'll give an example.
US Strategic bombers:
Prewar would be the B-52
Basic would be the B-1b
Improved would be B-2

Leaving 2 bombers, Advanced and Simi modern to be future bombers up for development.

Also to Martywolf,
I can edit oobs into HoI format so send me what need edited.

Ok we still need government ministers and oobs for most countries and more thought on the tech tree and soon events. If you can help with anything post what you got here. Also I need the new flag and shield for Afghanistan.

I like Martywolfs idea of having a coalition of the willing, axis of evil, rest of the world type situation as the 3 alliances. It allows for the most variety and changing alliances as situations develop. The game would start out sometime before the invasion of Iraq and would go from there events and the player/ AIs actions would decide the rest. I’m seeing war with China or the EU as not certain but having series of events that could lead to a major war. Some people don’t care much for events but I personally think they do wonders for the game and I like things like the CORE mod and EU2s EEP mod that add as many events as they can and I would like as many events as possible as and easy way to get things going. Any thoughts or questions?

 

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Originally posted by Buke
Buke's Post

Good to see you back, Buke.

In reality, The U.S. has the production power and industrial capacity that equals the WHOLE western Europe.

In HoI, I think there can be more levels of bombers than just 5.
I think it allows up to as many types as you add.

If 5, we should have:
1) B-52 - Slow, Strong, Very Powerful
2) B1b Lancer - Fast, Ranged, Powerful
3) B2 Spirit - Medium-Speed, Almost Intercontinental Range, Semi-Powerful
4) B-3 Future Strike Aircraft (Real U.S. Concept, Didn't make this up)
5) A more Futuristic Bomber

I think we should add a healthy amount of futuristic weaponry, not TOO futuristic, but about a knowledgeable 20-40 years from now.

Events - A MUST NEED

I love the events. The more events, THE HELL OF A LOT BETTER THE GAME IS.

CORE, for example, has an awesome amount of events, and it is great.

Also, read the page before this one, Buke. A couple of guys posted some great OOB info, if you want to check it out.

 

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Tac-Bombers

Also, about the first-world development.

The U.S. would start off with the first 3 levels, European Nations do not have Strat-Bombers, so they'll start off with 1 level. China starts off with 2 levels, and Russia starts off with 2 levels.

Most third-world nations start off with NO levels pre-researched, because most 3-W natinos do not possess Strat-Bombers or the knowledge to build them.

And for Tac-Bombers, The U.S. would have:

1) Vietnam-Era Aardvark Medium Tac-Bomber
2) F/A-18 Strike Hornet
3) A-10 Thunderbolt II Tank-Buster
4) F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (Tac-Assault) (Many Others natinos took part in JSF Research, so they also get this aircraft)
5) Hypersoar - A new, U.S. concept of supersonic high-altitude Tac-Bombing w/ Strat Capability (Concept DOES exist, I did NOT make this up)

Well, that's it for the U.S. Tac, I'll get working on Chinese and Russian Strats and Tacs.

 

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In replace of Dive-Bombers, they'll will be Attack Helicopters/Stealth/VTOL Strikers

For The U.S., this could be:

1)AH-1 Cobra (EARLY ATTACK COPTER) (Still in use with the U.S.M.C.)
2)AV-8B Harrier (VTOL PLANE) (Stil in use, VTOL for Navy, perfect for Aircraft Carrier)
3)AH-64 Apache (ATTACK COPTER) (New U.S. Attack copter, very powerful)
4)F-117 Stealth Strike Fighter (STEALTH PLANE) (relatively weak, but fast and stealthed)
5)A futuristic attack copter (possibly the Comanche Stealth
R/A Helicopter)

Well, thats it for Dive-Bomber replacement. Next on to U.S. AS/ASW Planes.