Modern Day Scenario for HoI

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I've read a copule of pages of this topic.. Particularly the part about three alliance's. You don't need three major factions. In the 1941 there are in fact only two alliances: the Allies and the Axis.

Thus you could have the West and an enemy (who? China? ).

Anyway, if you people need some help, I know how to edit the game files (not an expert though!).

 

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For the 3 different ideologies I'd suggest Communist, totilirian and democratic- no communist countrys (that I know of) just some democratic countrys leaning that way

 

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Originally posted by Josquius
For the 3 different ideologies I'd suggest Communist, totilirian and democratic- no communist countrys (that I know of) just some democratic countrys leaning that way

Well, I don't think we have a solid idea yet, but I suggested that the three factions would be:

Coalition of the Willing (CotW/in place of Allies) - U.S., Brit, etc.
European Union (EU/in place of comintern) - Germany, France,etc.
Belligerant of the World (BotW/in place of axis) - China, etc.

The reason why I made the EU in place of the comintern is not because they are commies, it is because I don't think there is much of a HARD-CODED hatred between the comintern and the allies.

 

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Originally posted by MartyWolf
Well, I don't think we have a solid idea yet, but I suggested that the three factions would be:

Coalition of the Willing (CotW/in place of Allies) - U.S., Brit, etc.
European Union (EU/in place of comintern) - Germany, France,etc.
Belligerant of the World (BotW/in place of axis) - China, etc.

The reason why I made the EU in place of the comintern is not because they are commies, it is because I don't think there is much of a HARD-CODED hatred between the comintern and the allies.

IMHO a MDS for HoI can't work out. The only conflicts today are civil wars in Africa and America's Crusade against terrorism. HoI isn't made for those conflicts.

If we want something cool ( = world war 3 ) to happen, then we need a really aggressive China attacking either the US (!!) or the EU. One faction should remain neutral (IMO this should be the EU). Or something like this.

A historically accurate MDS for HoI would just be boring. While it's accurate, it's still boring.

 

[Minodrin]

Well, we could always have a scenario where the EU tries to unite in a federal state, but many of the member nations decide to revolt (seceed, leave, oppose etc) insteade, starting a war in Europe. After this you could have events where China seizes the chance (As the USA is busy supporting the European independent nations) and starts invading left and right (Taiwan atleast, maybe Russia too).

It's just a suggestion anyway.

 

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Originally posted by A.F.C.A.
If we want something cool ( = world war 3 ) to happen, then we need a really aggressive China attacking either the US (!!) or the EU. One faction should remain neutral (IMO this should be the EU). Or something like this.

Or a nuke fight on the Indian subcontinent. Or an ultranationalist coup in Russia. Or a crazy North Korean leader with nukes . . . oh, wait.

 

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I think it makes much more sense to have the US attacking China rather than the other way around. Obviously it would be in response to China attacking US interests though. This discussion sure is going backwards.

 

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I know I've been gone for a long time but I can no longer work on this mod. Thought i might be able to eventualy get back to it but now that i'm project leader for the 1984 mod i am certainly not going to work on this mod. The map looks great. Maybe i can discuss ideas, maybe not. Good luck.

 

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Originally posted by Josquius
'lo chaps.
Can't be arsed to read through 9 pages though I read the first.
So what're you doing here? From the end of WW2? I'd be interested in a scenario from then though I'd hardly call it MDS, I'd call it Cold War scenario. I class the modern day as since the tech revolution (70s).

Of course modern also means to me since the year I was born and right at this moment.

lol, Anyone think that I should change the first post? Adding the screenies?

 

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Originally posted by arkham618
Or a nuke fight on the Indian subcontinent. Or an ultranationalist coup in Russia. Or a crazy North Korean leader with nukes . . . oh, wait.

Sounds realistic, sounds exciting, and sounds fun (not fun in reality, but fun in a game situation)

I think we should stick with the realism

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
I think it makes much more sense to have the US attacking China rather than the other way around. Obviously it would be in response to China attacking US interests though. This discussion sure is going backwards.

Nah, it would be more fun/realistic if the D.P.R.K. attacks the South Koreans or The Japanese, and then China becomes allies with thier communist neighbor, then U.S. helps the R.O.K. and Japan, etc.

 

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Hello everyone. I can help you with OOB:s if you want it. Have books with current numbers and such. It doesn´t include real names on divisions and so names would have to be "first infantry division" and so on.

My icq number is 170160968 if you want some help.


As for the secenario settings for who declares war and on who, seems to drag down this project timewise. Decide on it later and concentrate on other things first. It doesn't have to be the most likely scenario possible as it will only lead to internal conflict.

 

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Originally posted by Damien.Thorn
Hello everyone. I can help you with OOB:s if you want it. Have books with current numbers and such. It doesn´t include real names on divisions and so names would have to be "first infantry division" and so on.
As for the secenario settings for who declares war and on who, seems to drag down this project timewise. Decide on it later and concentrate on other things first. It doesn't have to be the most likely scenario possible as it will only lead to internal conflict.

That would be great! Does the book include what province the Division/Army is currently deployed?

Also, tell me what countries you can work on, thanks.

 

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FYI, dunno if you guys already know this, but the USA currently has 10 Army divisions (1st Armored, 1st Cav, 1st-4th and 25th Infantry, 10th Mountain, and 82nd and 101st Airborne), plus the Marines, as the full extent of active land forces.....

 

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Originally posted by Sheridan
FYI, dunno if you guys already know this, but the USA currently has 10 Army divisions (1st Armored, 1st Cav, 1st-4th and 25th Infantry, 10th Mountain, and 82nd and 101st Airborne), plus the Marines, as the full extent of active land forces.....

Yes, The Marines are a corp sized unit, with I think 2-4 divisions.

I have many sources online and in VMI's library for the U.S. OOBs for Air, Land, and Sea.

 

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Hey guys, need leader for Poland perhaps?
Not really? Anyway:

Name;ID;Country;Rank;Traits;Skill;Experience;Loyalty;Type;Picture;x
Ameljanczyk;8000;POL;2;1;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Balachowicz;8001;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Baran;8002;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Baranowski;8003;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Bielewicz;8004;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Bieniek;8005;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Bortnowski;8006;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Bragoszewski;8007;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Buczynski;8008;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Chyla;8009;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Cieniuch;8010;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Cieslik;8011;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Czajkowski;8012;POL;2;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Czekaj;8013;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Dominikowski;8014;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Dukaczewski;8015;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Dziewiata;8016;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Ekiert;8017;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Filipiak;8018;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Flis;8019;POL;1;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Gagor;8020;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Glowienka;8021;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Goral;8022;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Gruszka;8023;POL;3;256;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Brunon;8024;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Iwaszkiewicz;8025;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Izydorczyk;8026;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Jablonski;8027;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Juniec;8028;POL;3;1;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Kaczmarek;8029;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Kempara;8030;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Klejszmit;8031;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Kolczynski;8032;POL;3;64;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Komorowski;8033;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Konieczny;8034;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Konopka;8035;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Krysinski;8036;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Krzywoszynski;8037;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Krzyzlewski;8038;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Kubiak;8039;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Kuziora;8040;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Kwiatkowski;8041;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Lackner;8042;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Lelewski;8043;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Lewandowski;8044;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Lusnia;8045;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Lukasik;8046;POL;1;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Maciola;8047;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Marinda;8048;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Maj G.;8049;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Maj J.;8050;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Majewski;8051;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Makarewicz;8052;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Mathea;8053;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Michalski M.;8054;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Michalski W.;8055;POL;3;256;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Nowakowicz;8056;POL;3;128;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Olszewski;8057;POL;1;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Piatas;8058;POL;0;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Pietrzyk A.;8059;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Pietrzyk E.;8060;POL;1;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Piotrowski;8061;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Prudzienica;8062;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Ratajczyk;8063;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Rosinski;8064;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Saczonek;8065;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Sadowski;8066;POL;1;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Samarcew;8067;POL;1;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Samol;8068;POL;3;128;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Sasiadek;8069;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Sikorski;8070;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Skarbowski;8071;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Skrzypek;8072;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Slowinski;8073;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Smakulski;8074;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Smolarek;8075;POL;3;131072;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Smutniak;8076;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Solkiewicz;8077;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Sorokosz;8078;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Stachowiak;8079;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Stefaniak;8080;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Szalaj;8081;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Szura;8082;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Szwagrzyk;8083;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Szymanski;8084;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Tacik;8085;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Targosz;8086;POL;3;0;1;0;5;2;no_picture_avail;x
Topczak;8087;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Tyszkiewicz;8088;POL;2;1;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Walentynowicz;8089;POL;2;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Weglewski;8090;POL;3;0;1;0;5;1;no_picture_avail;x
Werner;8091;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Wisniewski;8092;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Wojciechowski;8093;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Wozniak;8094;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Zielinski;8095;POL;3;0;1;0;5;0;no_picture_avail;x
Chwastek;8096;POL;3;0;1;0;2;0;no_picture_avail;x
Petelicki;8097;POL;3;256;1;0;4;0;no_picture_avail;x

Also OOB:

OOB:
-3 mechanized infantry divisions
-Armored Cavalry division
-Armored Brigade
-5 armored cavalry brigades
-2 engineers brigades
-2 artillery brigades
-9 'general' brigades
-7 brigades of teritorial defence
Tanks:
Leopard 2 (41)
T-72 (644)
PT-91 (233)
Planes:
MiG-21 -75
MiG-29 -22
Su-22 - 98
contract for 48 F-16 signed some time ago..

 

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The Polish Leaders & OOB, is this Modern?

If it is, thank you VERY much.

 

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Negative on the troop locations, the defence is part of a lexikon so it's fairly limited information.

Like for Japan their OOB is as following.

Japan

Army

1 armoured division
12 infantry divisions
2 mechanized brigades
1 paratrooper brigade
1 artillery brigade
3 anti-air brigades
1 helicopterbrigade (500 hcp)

Navy

17 submarines
64 destroyers
11 patrolboats
1 minelayer
42 minesweepers
6 transport ships
100 fighterplanes
4 transportplanes
72 fighter helicopters
56 other helicopters
125 surveilance planes

Airforce

440 fighterplanes
55 transportplanes
40 helicopters
300 surveilance planes
6 SAM batteries bataljons

If this is the kind of info your looking for I can provide it for you.

 

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Originally posted by Damien.Thorn
Negative on the troop locations, the defence is part of a lexikon so it's fairly limited information.

Like for Japan their OOB is as following.

Japan

Army

1 armoured division
12 infantry divisions
2 mechanized brigades
1 paratrooper brigade
1 artillery brigade
3 anti-air brigades
1 helicopterbrigade (500 hcp)
If this is the kind of info your looking for I can provide it for you.

Yes, this is what information we need, but we do need locations.

Also, this isn't Japan's real Modern Day OOB, right?

This is just an example?

 

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This site might not be a bad one to look up OOB's.