Modern Day OOBs

unmerged(26632) · Mar 23, 2004

Forgive my ignorance, but can we please define EXACTLY what we mean by an Order of Battle? It seems to mean the composition of a nation's armed forces, in which case I've provided Australian OOB links on the CotW regional thread. If someone could tell me anything more specific, I'd appreciate it.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107209

Pal · Mar 25, 2004

Lunar said:

I think the prolbem was that I had model numbers on my transports (why it wouldn't work under MDS but perhaps before).

Anyway, I gave the units better names and got rid of the mech:

Code:

      landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34001 } 
	   location = 588 #Hamburg
	   name = "Hamburg Befehl"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34002 } 
		 name = "1. Panzergrenadier-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antitank}
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34003 } 
		 name = "2. Panzergrenadier-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34004 } 
		 name = "11. Panzergrenadier-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = engineer }
	        }

The name "xyz Befehl" is not good. Sound like an internet translation

Better use "Abteilung xyz" or something like that. In reality, the different divisions and smaller units are scattered throughout the country and thus not named as groups.

Lunar said:

Code:

 navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34050 }
		name = "Unterseebootflotta"
		location = 598 #Rostock
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34051 } name = "1. Unterseeboot" type = submarine model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34052 } name = "2. Unterseeboot" type = submarine model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34053 } name = "3. Unterseeboot" type = submarine model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34055 } name = "4. Unterseeboot" type = submarine model = 0 }
		}

The real organization is:
1. U - Bootgeschwader
U 12, U 25, U 26, U 28, U 30

3. U - Bootgeschwader
U 15, U 16, U 17, U 18, U 22, U 23, U24, U 29

Don´t ask me why there´s no "2. U - Bootgeschwader"

Btw: It would be "...flotte" and not "...flotta".

Lunar said:

Code:

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34060 }
		name = "Zerstörerflotta"
		location = 588 #Hamburg
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34061 } name = "1. Zerstörer" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34062 } name = "2. Zerstörer" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34063 } name = "3. Zerstörer" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34064 } name = "4. Zerstörer" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34065 } name = "5. Zerstörer" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		}

The real composition is:

Sachsen-class Frigates (kind of DD / small CA)
1. Fregattengeschwader

F 219 Sachsen (commissioning in 2004)
F 220 Hamburg (commissioning in 2004)
F 221 Hessen (commissioning in 2004)

BRANDENBURG-class Frigates (kind of DD / small CA)

6. Fregattengeschwader

F 215 Brandenburg
F 216 Schleswig - Holstein
F 217 Bayern
F 218 Mecklenburg - Vorpommern

BREMEN - class Frigates (kind of DD / small CA)

2. Fregattengeschwader

F 211 Köln
F 212 Karlsruhe
F 213 Augsburg
F 214 Lübeck

4. Fregattengeschwader

F 207 Bremen
F 208 Niedersachsen
F 209 Rheinland - Pfalz
F 210 Emden

Lunar said:

Code:

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34070 }
		name = "Transportflotta"
		location = 586 #Kiel
  		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34071 } name = "1. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34072 } name = "2. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34073 } name = "3. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
  		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34074 } name = "4. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34075 } name = "5. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34076 } name = "6. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34077 } name = "7. Truppentransporterflottille" type = transport }
		}

Supply vessels (could be used as transports):

A 1411 Berlin
A 1412 Frankfurt am Main
A 511 Elbe
A 512 Mosel
A 513 Rhein
A 514 Werra
A 515 Main
A 516 Donau
A 1413 Freiburg
A 1418 Meersburg

lunar said:

Code:

airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34101  }
 		name =  "1. Luftwaffe"
 		location = 602
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34102 }
 			name = "1. F-4F Fliege"
 			strength = 100
 			type = fighter
 			model = 1 }
 		 (...)
             	}

compilation is:
2. Marinefliegergeschwader
-> 50 "Tornado" fighter/bombers in 3 squads
3. Marinefliegergeschwader "Graf Zeppelin"
-> 16 "Bréguet Atlanic" anti-submarine bombers in 2 squads
Jagdgeschwader 71 "Richthofen", based at Wittmund (near Wilhelmshaven)
-> Eurofighter EF-2000 TYPHOON (Taifun), F-4 Phantom
Jagdgeschwader 73 "Steinhoff", based at Laage (near Rostock)
-> Eurofighter EF-2000 TYPHOON (Taifun), MiG 29
Jagdgeschwader 74 "Mölders", based at Neuburg (near München)
-> Eurofighter EF-2000 TYPHOON (Taifun), F-4 Phantom
Jagdbombergeschwader 31 "Boelcke", based at Nörvenich (near Köln)
-> Panavia PA 200 Tornado (fighter/bomber)
Jagdbombergeschwader 32, based at Lechfeld (near Augsburg)
-> Panavia PA 200 Tornado (fighter/bomber)
Jagdbombergeschwader 33, based at Cochem (near Wiesbaden)
-> Panavia PA 200 Tornado (fighter/bomber)
Jagdbombergeschwader 38 "Friesland", based at Jever (near Wilhelmshaven)
-> Panavia PA 200 Tornado (fighter/bomber)
Aufklärungsgeschwader 51 "Immelmann", based at Kropp (near Kiel)
-> Panavia PA 200 Tornado (fighter/bomber)
Lufttransportgeschwader 61, based at Penzing (near München)
-> C-160 D Transall transport
Lufttransportgeschwader 62, based at Wunstorf (near Hannover)
-> C-160 D Transall transport
Lufttransportgeschwader 63, based at Alt Duvenstedt/Hohn (near Kiel)
-> C-160 D Transall transport

Hope it helps

Pal · Apr 4, 2004

Updated Germany.inc file:

Code:

# Germany

country = { 
	tag = GER
	capital = 602
	ai = ""
	alignment = { x = -100 y = 0 }
	manpower = 1000 
	transports = 18
	escorts = 16
	
        # Resource Reserves
	coal = 20000  steel = 20000	rubber = 10000	oil =	5000	supplies = 20000
	techlevels = { 		
		1000 1100 1200 1300 1400 
		2000 2100 2200 2300 
		3000 3100 3200 3300 
		4000 4100 4200 4300 4400 4500 4600
		5000 5100 5200 5300 5400
		6000 6100 6200 6300 
		7000 7100 7200 7300 7400 7500 7600 
		8000 8100 8200 8300 8400 8500 
		9000 9100 9200 9300 9400 
		10000 10100 10200 10300 
		11000 11100 11200 11300 11400 
		12000 12100 12200 12300
		13000 13100 13200 
		14000 14100  14200 14300 14400 6400 6500
	}

	techapps = {
		1001 1101 1107 1201 1202 1203 1204 1205 1206 1207 1208 1301 1406 1407 
		2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2101 2102 2103 2104 2201 2202 2203 2204 2209 2210 2314 2318
		3001 3002 3003 3004 3005 3006 3007 3101 3102 3103 3104 3202 3203 3204 3205 3206
		4001 4101 4102 4201 4202 4203 4204 4301 4302 4303 4501
		5001 5002 5003 5004 5005 5101 5301 5405
		6001 6002 6003 6004 6005 6006 6007 6009 6010 6011 6012 6101 6102 6103 6105 6106 6107 6110 6111 6201 6303
		7001 7002 7003 7101 7102 7103 7201 7202 7203
		8401 8402
		9001 9002 9003 9004 9005 9006 9101 9102 9104 9105 9106 9107 9109 9201 9202 9203 9301 9303
		10001 10002 10003 10004 10005 10101 10102 10103 10104 10105 10106 10201 10202 10301		
		11001 11002 11003 11004 11101 11102 11103 11201 11202 11203 11204 11302 11303 11304 11305 11306 11402 11404 

11405 11406 11407 11408 		
		12001 12002 12003 12004 12101 12102 12201
		13001 13002 13004 13006 13102 13204
		14001 14002 14003 14005 14007 14008 14009 14010 14011 14012 14014 14015 14016 14101 14103 14104 14105 14106
		6008 6104 6108 6109 6112 6206 6301 6401 6402 6405 6502 6505 6508 14004 14006 14013 14403

	}
        deactivate = { }
      


        ownedprovinces = { 602 604 598 587 586 585 580 605 579 583 588 589 582 1961 559 558 560 575 576 574 562 566 577 547 } 
        controlledprovinces = { 602 604 598 587 586 585 580 605 579 583 588 589 582 1961 559 558 560 575 576 574 562 566 577 

547 } 
        nationalprovinces = { 602 604 598 587 586 585 580 605 579 583 588 589 582 1961 559 558 560 575 576 574 562 566 577 

547 } 

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34001 } 
	   location = 588 #Hamburg
	   name = "Armeegruppe Hamburg"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34002 } 
		 name = "1. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antitank}
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34003 } 
		 name = "2. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34004 } 
		 name = "11. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = engineer }
	        } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34005 } 
	   location = 598 #Rostock
	   name = "Armeegruppe Rostock"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34006 } 
		 name = "3. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antitank}
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34007 } 
		 name = "4. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34008 } 
		 name = "18. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = engineer }
	        } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34009 } 
	   location = 602 #Berlin
	   name = "Armeegruppe Berlin"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34010 } 
		 name = "5. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antitank}
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34011 } 
		 name = "6. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34012 } 
		 name = "7. Infanterie-Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34013 } 
		 name = "1. Panzer-Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34014 } 
		 name = "2. Panzer-Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34015 } 
		 name = "5. Panzer-Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antiair}
	        } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34016 } 
	   location = 585 #Magdeburg
	   name = "Fallschirmjägergruppe"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34017 } 
		 name = "1. Fallschirmjägerdivision"
		 type = paratrooper
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
	        } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 34018 } 
	   location = 604 #Dresden, Erzgebirge (mountains)
	   name = "1. Deutsche Gebirgstruppen"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 34019 } 
		 name = "1. Gebirgsjägerdivision"
		 type = Bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
	        }
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34050 }
		name = "1. U-Bootgeschwader"
		location = 598 #Rostock
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34051 } name = "U - 12" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34052 } name = "U - 25" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34053 } name = "U - 26" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34055 } name = "U - 28" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34055 } name = "U - 30" type = submarine model = 0 }
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 134901 }
		name = "3. U-Bootgeschwader"
		location = 586 #Kiel
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134902 } name = "U - 15" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134903 } name = "U - 16" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134904 } name = "U - 17" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134905 } name = "U - 18" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134906 } name = "U - 22" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134907 } name = "U - 23" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134908 } name = "U - 24" type = submarine model = 0 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134909 } name = "U - 29" type = submarine model = 0 }
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34060 }
		name = "6. Fregattengeschwader"
		location = 586 #Kiel
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34061 } name = "F 215 Brandenburg" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34062 } name = "F 216 Schleswig-Holstein" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34063 } name = "F 217 Bayern" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34064 } name = "F 218 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern" type = destroyer model = 

1 }
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 134910 }
		name = "2. Fregattengeschwader"
		location = 586 #Kiel
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134911 } name = "F 211 Köln" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134912 } name = "F 212 Karlsruhe" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134913 } name = "F 213 Augsburg" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134914 } name = "F 214 Lübeck" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 134915 }
		name = "4. Fregattengeschwader"
		location = 589 #Wilhelmshafen
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134916 } name = "F 207 Bremen" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134917 } name = "F 208 Niedersachsen" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134918 } name = "F 209 Rheinland-Pfalz" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 134919 } name = "F 214 Emden" type = destroyer model = 1 }
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 34070 }
		name = "Transporterflotte"
		location = 586 #Kiel
  		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34071 } name = "A 1411 Berlin" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34072 } name = "A 1412 Frankfurt/Main" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34073 } name = "A 1413 Freiburg" type = transport }
  		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34074 } name = "A 1418 Merseburg" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34080 } name = "A 511 Elbe" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34075 } name = "A 512 Mosel" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34076 } name = "A 513 Rhein" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34077 } name = "A 514 Werra" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34078 } name = "A 515 Main" type = transport }
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 34079 } name = "A 516 Donau" type = transport }
		}
	development = {
		id = { type = 17702 id = 134920 }
		name = "F 219 Sachsen"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		cost = 2
		date = { year = 2004 month = april day = 16 }
		}
	development = {
		id = { type = 17702 id = 134921 }
		name = "F 220 Hamburg"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		cost = 2
		date = { year = 2004 month = may day = 8 }
		}
	development = {
		id = { type = 17702 id = 134922 }
		name = "F 221 Hessen"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		cost = 2
		date = { year = 2004 month = june day = 1 }
		}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34101  }
 		name =  "2. Marinefliegergeschwader"
 		location = 586 #Kiel
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34102 }
 			name = "2. Marinefliegergeschwader I"
 			strength = 100
 			type = naval_bomber
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34103  }
 			name = "2. Marinefliegergeschwader II"
 			strength = 100
 			type = naval_bomber
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34104  }
 		name =  "3. Marinefliegergeschwader"
 		location = 586 #Kiel
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34105  }
 			name = "Geschwader 'Graf Zeppelin'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = naval_bomber
 			model = 1 } #Bréguet Atlanic Anti-Sub bomber?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34106  }
 		name =  "Jagdgeschwader 71"
 		location = 589 #Wittmund/Wilhelmshafen
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34107  }
 			name = "JG 71 'Richthofen'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = fighter
 			model = 2 } #Eurofighter 2000?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34108  }
 		name =  "Jagdgeschwader 73"
 		location = 598 #Laage/Rostock
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34109  }
 			name = "JG 73 'Steinhoff'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = fighter
 			model = 2 } #Eurofighter 2000 and MiG-29?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34110  }
 		name =  "Jagdgeschwader 74"
 		location = 562 #Neuburg/München
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34111  }
 			name = "JG 74 'Mölders'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = fighter
 			model = 2 } #Eurofighter 2000?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34112  }
 		name =  "Jagdbombergeschwader 31"
 		location = 558 #Nörvenich/Köln
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34113  }
 			name = "JBG 31 'Boelcke'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = tactical_bomber #or better divebomber?
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34114  }
 		name =  "Jagdbombergeschwader 32"
 		location = 562 #Lechfeld/Augsburg/München
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34115  }
 			name = "JBG 32"
 			strength = 100
 			type = tactical_bomber #or better divebomber?
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34116  }
 		name =  "Jagdbombergeschwader 33"
 		location = 1961 #Cochem/Frankfurt
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34117  }
 			name = "JBG 33"
 			strength = 100
 			type = tactical_bomber #or better divebomber?
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34118  }
 		name =  "Jagdbombergeschwader 38"
 		location = 589 #Jever/Wilhelmshafen
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34119  }
 			name = "JBG 38 'Friesland'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = tactical_bomber #or better divebomber?
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34120  }
 		name =  "Aufklärungsgeschwader 51"
 		location = 586 #Kropp/Kiel
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34121  }
 			name = "AG 51 'Immelmann'"
 			strength = 100
 			type = tactical_bomber
 			model = 1 } #Tornado?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34122  }
 		name =  "Lufttransportgeschwader 61"
 		location = 562 #Penzing/München
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34123  }
 			name = "Lufttransportgeschwader 61"
 			strength = 100
 			type = transport_plane
 			model = 1 } #C-160D Transall?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34124  }
 		name =  "Lufttransportgeschwader 62"
 		location = 583 #Wunstorf/Hannover
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34125  }
 			name = "Lufttransportgeschwader 62"
 			strength = 100
 			type = transport_plane
 			model = 1 } #C-160D Transall?
	}
 	airunit = {	
 		id = { type = 10178 id = 34126  }
 		name =  "Lufttransportgeschwader 63"
 		location = 586 #Alt-Duvenstedt/Kiel
 		 division = {
 			id = { type = 10178 id = 34127  }
 			name = "Lufttransportgeschwader 63"
 			strength = 100
 			type = transport_plane
 			model = 1 } #C-160D Transall?
	}
}

Buke · Aug 7, 2004

Heres a new UK OOB including the task force that fought in Iraq that the current OOB lacks.

Code:

landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92001 } 
	   location = 487 #edinburgh
	   name = "2nd Infantry Division"
		division = {
		 id = { type = 23001 id = 92002 } 
		 name = "2nd Infantry Division"
		 type = motorized
		 strength  = 15
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = artillery }
	        } 

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92003 } 
	   location = 500 #bristol
	   name = "HQ Land Command"
                division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 92004 } 
		 name = "3rd Infantry Division"
		 type = mechanized
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = artillery }
                } 

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92005 } 
	   location = 499 #London
	   name = "4th Infantry Division"
		division = {
		 id = { type = 23001 id = 92006 } 
		 name = "4th Infantry Division"
		 type = motorized
		 strength  = 15
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = antiair }
                } 

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92007 } 
	   location = 491 #cardiff
	   name = "5th Infantry Division"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 92008 } 
		 name = "5th Infantry Division"
		 type = motorized
		 strength  = 12
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = artillery }
	        }

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92009 } 
	   location = 1278 #Kuwait
	   name = "Operation Telic"
		division = {
		 id = { type = 23001 id = 92010 } 
		 name = "1st Armoured Div"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = artillery } 
                division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 92011 } 
		 name = "16th Air Assault Brigade"
		 type = paratrooper
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 }
	        }

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 92012 } 
	   location = 1278 #Kuwait
	   name = "3rd Commando Brigade"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 92013 } 
		 name = "3rd Commando Brigade"
		 type = marine
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 10 
		 extra = artillery }
	        } 
	
navalunit = {
	id = { type = 13016 id = 92014 }
	name = "Operation Telic"
	location = 1351 #Persian Gulf

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92015 }
		name = "HMS Ark Royal"
		type = carrier
		model = 1
		}

	airunit = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92016 }
		name = "Ark Royal Air Group"

		division = {
			id = { type = 13016 id = 92017 }
			name = "Ark Royal Air Group"
			type = torpedo_plane
			model = 1
			}
		}

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92018 }
		name = "HMS Ocean"
		type = transport
		model = 1
		}

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92019 }
		name = "1st Transport Squadron"
		type = transport
		model = 0
		}

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92020 }
		name = "2nd Transport Squadron"
		type = transport
		model = 0
		}

        division = {
 		id = { type = 13016 id = 92021 }
		name = "3rd Transport Squadron"
		type = transport
		model = 0
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92022 }
		name = "4th Transport Squadron"
		type = transport
		model = 0
		}

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92023 }
		name = "HMS Liverpool"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

	division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92024 }
		name = "HMS Edinburgh"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92025 }
		name = "HMS York"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92026 }
		name = "HMS Marlborough"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92027 }
		name = "HMS Richmond"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92028 }
		name = "HMS Triumph"
		type = submarine
		model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92029 }
		name = "Reserve Fleet"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92030 }
		name = "HMS Chatham"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92031 }
		name = "HMS Campbeltown"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92032 }
		name = "HMS Cornwall"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92033 }
		name = "HMS Cumberland"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92034 }
		name = "Invincible Fleet"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92035 }
		name = "HMS Invincible"
		type = carrier
		model = 1
		}

	airunit = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92036 }
		name = "Invincible Air Group"

		division = {
			id = { type = 13016 id = 92037 }
			name = "Invincible Air Group"
			type = torpedo_plane
			model = 1
			}
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92038 }
		name = "HMS Glouchester"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		} 

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92039 }
		name = "HMS Exeter"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92040 }
		name = "HMS Southampton"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92041 }
		name = "HMS Newcastle"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92042 }
		name = "HMS Lancaster"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92043 }
		name = "HMS Iron Duke"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92044 }
		name = "HMS Grafton"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92045 }
		name = "HMS Westminster"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92046 }
		name = "HMS Kent"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92047 }
		name = "HMS Portland"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92048 }
		name = "HMS St Albans"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92049 }
		name = "Illustrious Fleet"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92050 }
		name = "HMS Illustrious"
		type = carrier
		model = 1
		}

	airunit = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92051 }
		name = "Illustrious Air Group"

		division = {
			id = { type = 13016 id = 92052 }
			name = "Illustrious Air Group"
			type = torpedo_plane
			model = 1
			}
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92053 }
		name = "HMS Manchester"
		type = destroyer
		model = 2
		} 

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92054 }
		name = "HMS Nottingham"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92055 }
		name = "HMS Cardiff"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92056 }
		name = "HMS Glasgow"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92057 }
		name = "HMS Norfolk"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92058 }
		name = "HMS Sutherland"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92059 }
		name = "HMS Monmouth"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92060 }
		name = "HMS Northumberland"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92061 }
		name = "HMS Summerset"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92062 }
		name = "HMS Argyll"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92063 }
		name = "HMS Montrose"
		type = destroyer
		model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92064 }
		name = "SSBN Squadron"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92065 }
		name = "HMS Vanguard"
		type = submarine 
                model = 2
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92066 }
		name = "HMS Vigilant"
		type = submarine  
                model = 2
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92067 }
		name = "HMS Vengeance"
		type = submarine 
                model = 2
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92068 }
		name = "HMS Victorious"
		type = submarine  
                model = 2
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92069 }
		name = "Reserve SSN Squadron"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92070 }
		name = "HMS Spectre"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92071 }
		name = "HMS Splendid"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92072 }
		name = "HMS Sovereign"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92073 }
		name = "HMS Spartan"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92074 }
		name = "HMS Superb"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92075 }
		name = "1st SSN Squadron"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92076 }
		name = "HMS Turbulent"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92077 }
		name = "HMS Talent"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92078 }
		name = "HMS Trenchant"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}
}

navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92079 }
		name = "2nd SSN Squadron"
		location = 502 #southampton

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92080 }
		name = "HMS Tireless"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92081 }
		name = "HMS Trafalgar"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}

        division = {
		id = { type = 13016 id = 92082 }
		name = "HMS Torbay"
		type = submarine  
                model = 1
		}
}
         
         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92083  }
		name =  "UK Transport Air Command"
		location = 499 #London
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92084  }
			name = "28, 230 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = transport_plane
			model = 2 } #Heavy cargo helos
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92085  }
		name =  "UK Air Defense Command"
		location = 488 #newcastle
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92086  }
			name = "11, 25 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = fighter
			model = 1 }
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92087  }
		name =  "UK Strike Command"
		location = 498 #coventry
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92088  }
			name = "11, 25 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = fighter
			model = 1 }
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92089  }
		name =  "Operation Telic Transports"
		location = 1278 #Kuwait
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92090  }
			name = "99, 24 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = transport_plane
			model = 1 }
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92091  }
			name = "30, 47, 70 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = transport_plane
			model = 1 }
                 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92092  }
			name = "7, 33 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = transport_plane
			model = 2 } #Heavy cargo helos
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92093  }
			name = "18, 27 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = transport_plane
			model = 2 } #Heavy cargo helos
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92094  }
		name =  "Operation Telic Nimrods"
		location = 1278 #Kuwait
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92095  }
			name = "51, 120 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = naval_bomber
			model = 1 }
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92096  }
			name = "201, 206 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = naval_bomber
			model = 1 }	
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92097  }
		name =  "Operation Telic Close Support"
		location = 1278 #Kuwait
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92098  }
			name = "1, 3, 4 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = tactical_bomber
			model = 1 }
	}

         airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 92099  }
		name =  "Operation Telic Offensive Support"
		location = 1278 #Kuwait
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92100  }
			name = "43, 111 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = fighter
			model = 1 }
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92101  }
			name = "6, 41, 54 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = tactical_bomber
			model = 1 }
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92102  }
			name = "2, 9, 12 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = tactical_bomber
			model = 1 }	
                 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 92103  }
			name = "31, 617 Squadrons"
			strength = 100
			type = tactical_bomber
			model = 1 }
	}
        development = {
                 name = "HMS Queen Elizabeth"
                 type = carrier
                 model = 1
                 id = { type = 10178 id = 92104 }
                 cost = 2
                 date = { year = 2012 month = april day = 3 }
                 }
        development = {
                 name = "HMS Prince of Wales"
                 type = carrier
                 model = 1
                 id = { type = 10178 id = 92105 }
                 cost = 2 
                 date = { year = 2015 month = february day = 12 }
                 }
        development = {
                 name = "HMS Albion"
                 type = transport 
                 model = 1
                 id = { type = 10178 id = 92106 }
                 cost = 1 
                 date = { year = 2003 month = june day = 19 }
                 }
        development = {
                 name = "HMS Bulwark"
                 type = transport 
                 model = 1
                 id = { type = 10178 id = 92107 }
                 cost = 1 
                 date = { year = 2004 month = june day = 19 }
                 }
}

unmerged(26538) · Aug 11, 2004

Division / Brigades

Anyone already sugest add two kind of units of the same class, but diferent size?
Example:

Infantry:
Infantry Division
Infantry Brigade (lower cost and strengh of a division, less organization)

That could help for those countries with too samll armed forces.

Also, can be added at least two variant of mech inf. One can be on APCs and the other on ICV. Or the ICV can be on tank category.
Just sugestion :wacko:

Shadow Reaper · Aug 11, 2004

I'm presuming that most of the model numbers are gonna be changed later?

unmerged(15113) · Aug 12, 2004

yup. In my opinion, we should make new models before we release alpha, but I presume everyone else just want the alpha out. Until we get the models right, GB or US can get their butts kicked by Jordan or whatever...

Shadow Reaper · Aug 12, 2004

Thats ok, for a moment I though British SSBN would be about as useful as a diesel submarine

Oh, I was looking into the Argentine Navy recently, and I dunno if this OOB will help you out:

Amphibious Naval Command
- ARA Hercules (UK T42 class Destroyer)
- ARA Santisima Trinidad (UK T42 class Destroyer)
- ARA Cabo San Antonio (US De Soto County Type Tank Landing Ship)

Second Destroyer Division
- ARA Almirante Brown (Meko 360 H2 Class Frigate)
- ARA La Argentina (Meko 360 H2 Class Frigate)
- ARA Heroina (Meko 360 H2 Class Frigate)
- ARA Sarandi (Meko 360 H2 Class Frigate)

Submarine Force Command
- ARA Santa Cruz (TR 1700)
- ARA San Juan (TR 1700)
- ARA San Luis (U-209)

Second Corvette Division
- ARA Second Corvette Division (4x MEKO 140)

First Corvette Division Command
- ARA First Corvette Division (3x A-69)

--
Air Naval Command
- Air Naval Force No.2/No.3 (Super Etendard)

unmerged(26538) · Aug 12, 2004

The Meko 360 is clasified as Destroyed.

The Meko 140, as light frigate (buts is a little light, 1x76mm, 2x20mm, 8xMM40 Exocet, 1 Alouette helo, 1500 tons aprox-must check). There are 5 in service and one to be delivered at the end of this year.

There is also at least two corvettes/missile boats, indomita class (ARA Indomita and ARA Intrepida). Both are NTC45 class.

I have the OOB of the Argentinian Army and Airforce if helps.

Shadow Reaper · Aug 12, 2004

Diego EV said:
The Meko 360 is clasified as Destroyed.

I found a lot of sources saying it was a Frigate or a Destroyer, so aimed for Frigate instead as it seemed quite small compared to other Destroyers.(I presume you mean't Destroyer, not Destroyed lol)

Diego EV said:
The Meko 140, as light frigate (buts is a little light, 1x76mm, 2x20mm, 8xMM40 Exocet, 1 Alouette helo, 1500 tons aprox-must check). There are 5 in service and one to be delivered at the end of this year.

Yeah, I saw that there were plans for having 6, but I was thinking that only 4 would be around when the MOD started in March 2003, and the other 2 would be development.

As for the 2 ex-British Type 42 Destroyers, I found several sources saying they were there, but the actual Argentine Navy site doesn't haven't any info on them at all (not any I could see, but it is hard trying to navigate a Spanish website when you don't know the language, lol)

unmerged(26538) · Aug 13, 2004

Destroyers, yes wit r lol

Im not sure if the MEKO360 design is a FR or a DD, but in the Argentinian Navy they are classified as destroyers. I dont have the hull numbers, but they was DD..., same as the type 42.

The Type 42 is the Hercules calss. There are two, one have the original british configuration (Santisima Trinidad) and the other (Hercules) was modified, removing the helo pad and adding something but I dont know what was added :wacko: Also the MM38 was remplazed by MM40.

And yes, the official site, well...

gives more questions than answers.

BTW, which will be the starting date?

edited by gzav - Please read the Double posts sticky.

h345 · Aug 13, 2004

Diego EV said:
BTW, which will be the starting date?

start of the Iraq war

unmerged(15113) · Aug 13, 2004

20 March 2003 to be exact

unmerged(26538) · Aug 13, 2004

Argentinian Air Force OOB

Brigada I - Transport: C-130/Boeing 707

Brigada II - Recon, fotograpy, inteligence: many planes, must check.

Brigada III - Close Support (and training) : IA-58

Brigada IV - Close Support and Rescue (training too) : IA-63

Brigada V - Air and ground combat : A-4AR (A-4M)

Brigada VI - Air and ground combat : Mirage III and V, Finger, Mara.

Brigada VII - Transport : ???

Brigada VIII - Air and ground combat : Mara/Finger ???

Brigada IX - Rescue and Training : ???

totals
130 Combat Aircraft plus 90 close support

unmerged(26538) · Aug 13, 2004

Naval

And Naval air units:

1ra Aeronaval: EMB-326 and others
2da Aereonaval: Super Etendart
Escuadra Antisubmarina: S-2E/G
Escuadra Maritima: P-3B

And other units, but mainly trainers, transports and helicopters.

totals
40+ aircraft

Zuckergußgebäck · Jan 1, 2005

I am quite sure that the swiss has a navy stationed on the italian coast, but I haven´t found any information yet. Can someone tell me if I am correct?

Shadow Reaper · Jan 1, 2005

Well i've just purchased Jane's Warship Recognition guide which has pretty much every naval ship from 'mining vessel' up so i can have a brief look.

If I remember rightly, Switzerland has the largest navy of any in-land nation.

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