Modern Day OOBs

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Niklas, the OOB you provided, is that there current army, or is it after a full mobilization?

EDIT: I know you said it was a full mobilization, sorry.

People, the OOBs we will use, is it standing armies or after a full mobilization?

 

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Originally posted by MartyWolf
Niklas, the OOB you provided, is that there current army, or is it after a full mobilization?

best case senario after full mobilization, this is what we have equipment for.

/Niklas

 

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we have such a small army... but when i get to power.....MUHAHAHA

 

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Just a few questions

I would take it we would be using full mobilisation of all reserve and territoial units, along with the full time forces as a starting point for the military strength of each nation at the start of the game.

What formula is going to be used to calculate the manpower available for each country?

With full mobilisation it will be necessary to reform divisions that in many cases have not existed since WW2, so with the army OOB would it be in order to add these divisions??

How many tanks are we assuming make up an armoured div??

UK has around 350 challenger2 MBT is service with a further 300 challenger1 is storage.

With ENG, AA and ART regiments are these to be added to divs and treated as additionl brigades as per standard HOI?

Sorry about all the questions just trying to get everything clear.

 

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Who is collating all the OOB's, and keeping track of what has been completed?

Would it be possible to post a list of what has been done and what is still required?

 

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Marty is managing them I suppose, I was going to suggest after we got a few more, but if it would help you Marty should compose a list in the first post. Perhaps it could be similar to my Propaganda poster post stating which ones have the basic numbers, which ones have detailed divisions and which ones are coded?

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
Marty is managing them I suppose, I was going to suggest after we got a few more, but if it would help you Marty should compose a list in the first post. Perhaps it could be similar to my Propaganda poster post stating which ones have the basic numbers, which ones have detailed divisions and which ones are coded?

Yes, I am managing the OOBs. The first post does have a list of all the OOBs we have.

I will set-up a system like your prop poster post.

 

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Ok looks good, that'll help anyone who wants to see what needs to be done.

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
Ok looks good, that'll help anyone who wants to see what needs to be done.

Thanks.

Also, everybody, please tell me if anything needs to be added.
It's my responsibility to keep things organized for the OOBs, so if anything needs to be added, please tell me.

Thanks.

 

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but do we have anyone who's willing to code all these or am I going to have to learn myself in a few weeks?

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
I'm almost afraid to ask, but do we have anyone who's willing to code all these or am I going to have to learn myself in a few weeks?

I could code a few, but I'm going to be pretty damn busy in about 5 days from now.

 

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We don't need it all right now, but starting on it wouldn't hurt. If we can get the OOB's for the majors in, as well as the plot, then I can start working on the AI. My summer just ended yesterday but I should still have some free time.

 

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WP

Your OOB for Poland is very close, here is some info I know from off the top of my head

- 2 mechanised corps;
- 3 mechanised divisions;
- armoured cavalry division;
- 8 mechanised brigades;
- 6 armoured brigades;
- 2 artillery brigades;
- 2 engineer brigades;
- airborne brigade; ( )
- air cavalry brigade;
- coastal defence brigade;
- Podhalan Brigade;
- logistic brigade;
- 26 regiments of various branches

- tanks:
Leopard 2 - 41
T-72 - 644
PT-91 - 233
- armoured combat vehicles
infantry fighting vehicles - 1321
armoured reconnaissance vehicle - 38
- artillery (120 mm and more)
cannons/howitzers - 652
mortars - 184
multiple missile launchers - 256
engineer bridges
BLG-67M2 - 126
- strike and general purpose helicopters
W-3 W Huzar - 34
Mi-2 URP - 27
Mi-24 - 43
- ground attack helicopters
Mi-8 - 18
M-17 - 6
- non-armed transport helicopters
Mi-2 - 29
Mi-8 - 11
W-3 Sokó³ - 2.

Many things recently are being done in Polish Land forces. The old T-55's where scraped and PT-91's take there place, with the T-72's being magorly modernized. New 125mm Ammunition is currently under development. M3 Carl Gustav has replaced a good deal of the RPG-7V. 84mm AT4(M128 LAW in US Military) has been given on the squad level. Beryl Assault Rifle replaced all the PMKM Rifles. New NT Spike ER, and LR missiles to replace the Fagot Missiles(Get the 1st shipments of Spikes in this year, and then we will make our own). F-16 come in soon. Many naval ships recieved from US. PPZR GROM SAM replace Strzela Shoulder launched SAM. We in negotiation to buy US HMMWV, and We recently choose Finnish Patia to be replacment IFV.

Our arms industry also has recieved some new jobs from India and Indonesia. We are modernizing Indian T-72's and supplying Indonesia with some newer arms. Heh since tests showed our new electronics cant be jammed by US or British systems they have high demand.

I will see some other documents and get back to you later. This is from top of my head.

 

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Can you specify the exact corrections you think are needed for the coded Polish OOB on the first post? Just what needs to be added or changed, you don't have to rewrite all that code or anything, or write any code at all.

That's really impressive that you could name all that off the top of your head.

 

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Well It may take me a little while, but I will recomend you something soon. Also it depends on the scale your mod will be, are you keeping division base, or makeing it smaller. I always felt the game should be done in Brigades but that may have been just me.

Not really all that impressive to name off the top of my head, standard stuff I see everyday really. And I have alot of time to review documents now that the 16th Airborne Battalion was detachted from the Iraq mission.

 

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Brigade-sized units wouldn't work for the Asian war due to so many damn units. It was already discussed and I simply can't see how China and North Korea would manage their millions of soldiers at a brigade level.

Anyway, feel free to represent independant brigades and whatnot as attached brigades (engineer usually since they have +defense) or combine them into divisions. Take your time, the Polish OOB corrections aren't really needed immediately.

added: I missed your signature earlier, that explains something.

 

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Originally posted by Scottskofski
Well It may take me a little while, but I will recomend you something soon. Also it depends on the scale your mod will be, are you keeping division base, or makeing it smaller. I always felt the game should be done in Brigades but that may have been just me.

Not really all that impressive to name off the top of my head, standard stuff I see everyday really. And I have alot of time to review documents now that the 16th Airborne Battalion was detachted from the Iraq mission.

It`s seems that you`re definietly more competent person to construct Polish OOB that I`m Scottskofski Could you also do it for air and naval forces? It`s the part when I fall completly

 

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RAF OOB (first attempt)

Strike/Attack Aircraft

9, 12, 14, 31, 617 Squadrons (60 Tornado GR4 - 12 per sqdn)

Offensive Support Aircraft

1, 3, 4, 6, 54 Squadrons (65 Harrier GR7 - 15 per sqdn)

Air Defence Aircraft

11, 25, 43, 111, 1435, (80 Tornado F3 - 16 per sqdn) (1435 filight --- Based East Falkland)

AEW Aircraft

8, 23 Squadron (6 Sentry AEW1 - 3 per sqdn)

Maritime Patrol Aircraft

120, 201, 206 Squadrons (17 Nimrod MR2 - 6 per sqdn)

Reco Aircraft

2, 13, 39, 41, 51,Squadrons (24 Tornado GR4A, 5 Canberra PR9, 13 Jaguar GR3, 3 Nimrod R1) will sort out which go to which sqdns!!

Transport/Tankers

24, 30, 47, 70 Squadrons (44 Hercs C1/C3 C4/C5)
99 Squadron (4 C17 Globemaster)
10 Squadron (10 VC10 C1K)
32 Squadron (10 Bae 125 &116)
101 Squadron (7 VC10)
216 Squadron (8 Tristar)
1312 Flight (1 Herc, 1 VC10--- based in East Falkland)

Its a work in progress still to add Helicopter and reserve Squadrons ro the list.

There are also 2000 troops (approx) in the RAF regiment which specialises in airport/runway defence and AA any ideas on how to represent them??

 

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Thats good RAF info, as for the RAF regiment im thinking they will be represented by Flak batteries if they are in at all.

 

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Strath, I'm going to add your OOB to the OOB list. Thanks.