Modern Day OOBs

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by Lunar
I'm not going to give them any partisans, we'll simulate Baath-loyalist damage via events. The damage they are doing isn't that great, not really the same as Vietcong. Partisans are really for mountains, swamps, jungles, and forests.

Yes, your right.

I'll create some events that are like, "A Saddam Loyalist Bombing in Tikrit", where the U.S. would get a little dissent, and the Pro-U.S. Iraq puppet would lose a little manpower due to the event.

The events will be random, with a 14-day offset.

unmerged(19112) · Sep 8, 2003

Belgium OOB:

1st Gemechaniseerde Divisie based in Bruxelles. This division deploys Leopards 1A5's, M113 APC's and PANDUR's.

Destroyers
F910 Wielingen
F911 Westdiep
F912 Wandelaar

These destroyers are build in the seventies.

Raczynski · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by MartyWolf

The events will be random, with a 14-day offset.

You mean "real" random events or normal events with random = xx trigger? Because the first one will not work properly...

BTW didn`t Iraqians have some sort of armoured divisions (I know, with obsolete tanks, but still)

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unmerged(16020) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by Raczynski

BTW didn`t Iraqians have some sort of armoured divisions (I know, with obsolete tanks, but still) ?

Correct, two divisions under the main army and one under the Republican Guard.

The older OOB's when implemented will have to have their motorized divisions turned to mech or infantry in the code.

unmerged(16020) · Sep 8, 2003

Iraqi OOB

Obviously this is too strong, we'll need to give them a demoralization tech. Perhaps also a moral boost tech if they capture Kuwait or still own Basrah within a month of the war?

Code:

        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42001 } 
	    location = 1267 #Kirkuk
	    name = "I Corps"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42002 } 
		 name = "2nd Infantry Division"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42003 } 
		  name = "5th Mechanized Division "
		  type = infantry
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42004 } 
		 name = "8th Infantry Division "
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42005 } 
		  name = "38th Infantry Division "
		  type = bergsjaeger
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42006 } 
	    location = 1354 #An Nasririyah
	    name = "II Corps"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42007 } 
		 name = "3rd Armored Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42008 } 
		  name = "15th Infantry Division"
		  type = bergsjaeger
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42009 } 
		 name = "34th Infantry Division"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42010 } 
	    location = 1355 #Basrah
	    name = "III Corps"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42011 } 
		 name = "6th Armored Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42012 } 
		  name = "11th Infantry Division"
		  type = bergsjaeger
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42013 } 
		 name = "51st Mechanized Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42014 } 
	    location = 1281 #An Najaf
	    name = "IV Corps"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42015 } 
		 name = "10th Armored Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42016 } 
		  name = "14th Infantry Division"
		  type = bergsjaeger
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42017 } 
		 name = "18th Infantry Division"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42018 } 
	    location = 1355 #Basrah
	    name = "V Corps"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42019 } 
		 name = "1st Mechanized Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42020 } 
		  name = "4th Infantry Division"
		  type = bergsjaeger
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42021 } 
		 name = "7th Infantry Division"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42022 } 
		 name = "16th Infantry Division"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42023 } 
	    location = 1272 #Bagdad
	    name = "Republican Guard"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42024 } 
		 name = "1st Hammurabi Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
		  id = { type = 23001 id = 42025 } 
		  name = "5th Baghdad Division"
		  type = infantry
		  strength  = 100
		  organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42026 } 
		 name = "6th Nebuchadnezzar Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42027 } 
		 name = "7th Adnan Division"
		 type = infantry
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42028 } 
		 name = "Nida Armored Division"
		 type = panzer
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 }
		 } 
        landunit = {
	   id = { type = 23000 id = 42029 } 
	    location = 1272 #Bagdad
	    name = "Special Republican Guard"
		division = {
	 	 id = { type = 23001 id = 42030 } 
		 name = "Special Republican Guard"
		 type = bergsjaeger
		 strength  = 100
		 organisation = 5 
		 extra = antiair}
		}
	navalunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 42031 }
		name = "Iraqi Navy"
		location = 1355 #Basrah
		division = { id = { type = 10178 id = 42032 } name = "Khaldoum" strength = 5 type = destroyer model = 0}
	       }

	airunit = {
		id = { type = 10178 id = 42033  }
		name =  "Iraqi Air Force"
		location = 1272 #Bagdad
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 42034  }
			name = "1st Fighter Squadron"
			strength = 100
			type = fighter
			strength = 95
			model = 0 }
		 division = {
			id = { type = 10178 id = 42035  }
			name = "2nd Fighter Squadron"
			strength = 100
			type = fighter
			strength = 80
			model = 0 }
	}

unmerged(16020) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by 666
Belgium OOB:

1st Gemechaniseerde Divisie based in Bruxelles. This division deploys Leopards 1A5's, M113 APC's and PANDUR's.

Destroyers
F910 Wielingen
F911 Westdiep
F912 Wandelaar

These destroyers are build in the seventies.

So one armored division with an artillery brigade in Brussels and one destroyer division? Is that all?

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Don't give the Iraqi Army the APC Cav ("Old-Mech"), convert them to Motorized ("Old-Inf")

They didn't have those types of units in 2003, just All-Terrain FS, Motorized, and a small amount of tanks.

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Oh, and Lunar, did you fix up your other coded OOBs to the new unit scheme (I.E., making what used to be "Motorized/Mechanized" now Inf, and making what used to be FOOT soldiers now All-Terrain FOOT Soldiers?

h345 · Sep 8, 2003

i'm might finish the US navy oob tomorrow because their r over 300 ships today in the US navy

unmerged(16020) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by MartyWolf
Oh, and Lunar, did you fix up your other coded OOBs to the new unit scheme (I.E., making what used to be "Motorized/Mechanized" now Inf, and making what used to be FOOT soldiers now All-Terrain FOOT Soldiers?

No, I mentioned it a few posts up that whoever adds the old ones to the file will have to convert.

unmerged(16020) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by MartyWolf
Don't give the Iraqi Army the APC Cav ("Old-Mech"), convert them to Motorized ("Old-Inf")

They didn't have those types of units in 2003, just All-Terrain FS, Motorized, and a small amount of tanks.

Ok, corrected the original. The descriptions at GlobalSecurity all said they were mechanized divisions so that's what I did.

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by Lunar
Ok, corrected the original. The descriptions at GlobalSecurity all said they were mechanized divisions so that's what I did.

Yes, but what they mean by "Mechanized" is just modern day vehicle-driven infantry w/ support. Not quite the same thing as a M2 Bradley group, or a BMP-2 Group

h345 · Sep 8, 2003

the US 1st cavalry is a heavy mec or tank division

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by h345
the US 1st cavalry is a heavy mec or tank division

"With over 17,000 soldiers, the 1st Cavalry Division is the premier heavy-armored division in today's United States Army. Commanded by Major General Peter W. Chiarelli, it is organized with seven brigade-sized elements that include three maneuver brigades, a combat aviation brigade, engineer brigade, division artillery and division support command. Additionally, it consists of an air defense artillery battalion, signal battalion, military intelligence battalion, chemical company and military police company, horse cavalry detachment and division band. "

Hmm. I don't know. But, I would think that it is a tank division, becuase it is mostly made up of M1A2 Abrahms.

h345 · Sep 8, 2003

so would it just be a regular tank division or a tank division with an anti tank brigade

unmerged(15893) · Sep 8, 2003

Originally posted by h345
so would it just be a regular tank division or a tank division with an anti tank brigade

A Panzer/Tank division with a Engineer Brigade attached, I would think, becuase of the Engineer ad Manuever brigades in the division in real life.

Halibutt · Sep 9, 2003

Originally posted by MartyWolf
"With over 17,000 soldiers, the 1st Cavalry Division is the premier heavy-armored division in today's United States Army. Commanded by Major General Peter W. Chiarelli, it is organized with seven brigade-sized elements that include three maneuver brigades, a combat aviation brigade, engineer brigade, division artillery and division support command. Additionally, it consists of an air defense artillery battalion, signal battalion, military intelligence battalion, chemical company and military police company, horse cavalry detachment and division band. "

Hmm. I don't know. But, I would think that it is a tank division, becuase it is mostly made up of M1A2 Abrahms.

If we stick to the HoI sizes than it's almost two divisions... In HoI a division is a three brigade, 10.000 men unit. Maybe we should split it up onto two different units, one armoured and one mech or moto... It's really huge...
Cheers

unmerged(16020) · Sep 9, 2003

Perhaps an artillery brigade would be best to represent it being quite powerful?

unmerged(15893) · Sep 9, 2003

Originally posted by Halibutt
If we stick to the HoI sizes than it's almost two divisions... In HoI a division is a three brigade, 10.000 men unit. Maybe we should split it up onto two different units, one armoured and one mech or moto... It's really huge...
Cheers

Actually, 17,000 men isn't really that huge in American Division standards. I'm pretty sure there are multiple singular divisions with MORE men than that.

unmerged(15893) · Sep 9, 2003

Originally posted by Lunar
Perhaps an artillery brigade would be best to represent it being quite powerful?

Well, it's a fast-strike division, meant for maneuverability. Panzer w/ Engineer brigade would definitely be the best way to represent this unit.

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