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Will models ever be updated? Here is a comparison for France.

On the left is a newer model from 2020. On the right is a older model from 2016.
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I see 2 pictures with different plane-types ( 2020 - scout and 2016 - bomber ). Did both not hit the historic-reality, or what exactly is your point ?
 

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I see 2 pictures with different plane-types ( 2020 - scout and 2016 - bomber ). Did both not hit the historic-reality, or what exactly is your point ?
Model quality
 

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I have to admit that at first glance I thought the older model was on the left. I had to read your words twice to make my eyes and brain agree.
 
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I have to admit that at first glance I thought the older model was on the left. I had to read your words twice to make my eyes and brain agree.
Ahhh. The power of psychology lol
 
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Not sure about the polygon count, but the texture quality does differ by a lot - see the roundel.
 
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Both look pretty bad. should be a higher quality textures option. hd texture optional download or something
Yeah, the existing textures are kind of awful and a lot of roundels look like smudges. HD textures would be great.

But also, some of the vanilla models are pretty bad. I mean, have you seen the tiny peashooters the default battleship model is packing?

On a related-ish note, how about some textures for generic units that don't look badly rusted over?
 
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I don't even care. They're hidden behind that 3D button anyways and have no impact on how the game looks. If increasing model texture quality meant slowing down the game I'm against it. If not then don't care if they improve it or not.
 
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I don't even care. They're hidden behind that 3D button anyways and have no impact on how the game looks. If increasing model texture quality meant slowing down the game I'm against it. If not then don't care if they improve it or not.

?? They do show up flying around when you zoom in, unless you disable stuff in the video options (which I do on slower computers, Im not sure it improves my speed however), but indeed when they are flying they are small and I'm not sure the extra detail would be visible
 
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I don't even care. They're hidden behind that 3D button anyways and have no impact on how the game looks. If increasing model texture quality meant slowing down the game I'm against it. If not then don't care if they improve it or not.
They show up flying around when you are at a general zoom level - which is where most of the game is played at.
 
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The difference is clear as day. @podcat Can this be implemented into the base game - lol. Would help with flavor - maybe you could charge for a model overhaul pack for planes.

Side by side comparison (top is model overhaul, bot is basegame)

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@Mr_Dimento is this a mod?

Paradox has a history of mixed (sometimes very poor, sometimes ok) graphics for HoI series.
I've played since HoI1 and did a full graphic overhaul compendium of best available mods in HoI2.

Modders often better job than paradox on these things but one could say to be fair that they're working from a great base game. What's odd is that paradox doesn't seem simply adopt better sprites/models from mods, or at least learn conceptually from them.

HoI1-HoI2 was actually a step backwards on sprites and I've never thought they got it right to date. New games are released with limited variety sub-par sprites and other unit models, and then on come the DLCs that take forever to do what modders have often already done. I don't mind at all the concept of paying for ongoing developmetn of the core game, I'm not in that camp.

My question is more: Why not just recycle and improve... for example, what paradox did years ago to get pictures of all the various ww2 generals. I forget what it was called but they had some campaign inviting people to submit pictures of generals and those pictures, initially black and white mostly, have evolved from those originals to what we see today. *That* is cool.

It's *not* cool that in HoI4, after 10 years of game development, generic unit cards are nothing more than a black silhouette. There are sadly too many similar examples.

How cool would it be to have a library of sprites and unit cards and the option to choose in-game your preferred PzIV sprite (for example) from a list/library of great options... that would make my little wargaming heart sing.

Gripes aside... I love this game and that they are constantly tinkering with it.
 
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@Mr_Dimento is this a mod?

Paradox has a history of mixed (sometimes very poor, sometimes ok) graphics for HoI series.
I've played since HoI1 and did a full graphic overhaul compendium of best available mods in HoI2.

It's always bothered me that modders do better job than paradox on these things but then paradox doesn't seem to simply adopt those better sprites/models going forward, consistently making new ones that are often (not always) sub-par.
Yes that is a professionally well done mod called "Paint the Planes"