Modding - Quick questions

[Augustulus91]

I have a very difficult question.

I am currently adding some tribal titles (of higher tiers), so I would like to know, if it is possible to code, conditions , such that the title can be created if the holder holds (or reigns over) a certain % of the total number of provinces with that culture?

For example "Emperor of the Czechs" if he holds 80% of the czech-cultured provinces in-game (at that moment) ?

 

[Chris93]

Hi guys, I'm a member of Middle Earth Project and we're working on the compatibility for the latest patches. The only problem I have is that the mod does not recognizes the diplomatic range introduced by the last patch, the defines is updated, do I forget something?

 

[richvh]

I have a very difficult question.

I am currently adding some tribal titles (of higher tiers), so I would like to know, if it is possible to code, conditions , such that the title can be created if the holder holds (or reigns over) a certain % of the total number of provinces with that culture?

For example "Emperor of the Czechs" if he holds 80% of the czech-cultured provinces in-game (at that moment) ?

I don't think that's possible. You could however set up a titular title that can be formed if you control 80% of the Czech cultured provinces at the start of the game.

 

[Augustulus91]

I don't think that's possible. You could however set up a titular title that can be formed if you control 80% of the Czech cultured provinces at the start of the game.

How would I code that, would would need to specifiy all those provinces?
Example: Have 2 of 3 provinces:

Do I code the combinations: 1 & 2 OR 1 & 3 OR 2 & 3. Or can i Code it easier?
Btw, thank you for the response!

 

[fanoI]

I've a problem to understand how to guide the IA to take an option on an event; the scope of the event is to emulate the Treaty of Lateran that is giving to a totally defeated Pope the Bishorship of Saint Peter (or Rome how Paradox calls it) vassalizing him in the process, all gone smooth until I've had only a possible decision to choose and effectively the Pope accepted and got Saint Peter and become my vassal

Then I've add the "F*ck option" and he started to always say no, but he has an opinion of 64 so... this code is freely inspired by the Paradox event in which a poor vassal petition the liege for a title in his de jure land:

namespace = COR

# The Roman Republic had success and reformed the Western Roman Empire / Roman Empire
# now we are requesting to the Pope to join the Empire.
character_event = {
	id = COR.0
	desc = "COR.0.desc"
    	picture = GFX_evt_emissary
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_diplomacy
    
    	is_triggered_only = yes
    
	# The Pope accepts the demand
    	option = {
        	name = EVTOPTA_COR_0

	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
		
			# An ambitious Pope would not accept peaceful
			# vassalization!	
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				trait = ambitious
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				NOT = {
					opinion = { who = FROM value = -20 }
				}
  			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				NOT = {
					opinion = { who = FROM value = 25 }
				}
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				NOT = {
					opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
				}
			}	
		}

		b_roma = {
			grant_title = PREV
		}
		opinion = {
			who = FROM
			modifier = opinion_restored_to_rome
		}

		# Things to do:
		# - the Pope should become a Senator of Rome (only passive
		#   vote should never elected as the ruler!)
		# - the Pope should become Chaplain and should not never removed
		# - the Pope should not get the recurring claim on the County Rome

		# In exchange of the Bishorship of Rome
		# the Pope become a vassal of the callee
		set_defacto_liege = FROM
		# Inform the new Liege that the Pope is now ready to serve
		FROM = { character_event = { id = COR.1 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR1" } } 
    	}

	# The Pope does NOT accept the demand
    	option = {
       	name = EVTOPTB_COR_0

	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
			
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				trait = content
			}

			modifier = {
				factor = 0.75
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 20 }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
			}
		}

		FROM = {
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_disappointed
				who = ROOT
				months = 120
			}
			character_event = { id = COR.2 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR2" } 
		}
	}
}

I've tried to modify the line:

modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			NOT = {
					opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
			}
}

with a factor of "0.75" and if the Pope likes me more than 50 (that is this the sense of "NOT 50"? What if happens he likes me precisely 50 it would say no? There is not a more clear >= ?) effectively now he says yes and if he doesn't like me (the previous Pope was not in good term with me as I've declare war to him... for Saint Peter :rofl he indeed he says no...

The "no" branch how should be interpreted? The factors should be considered negated? If they don't make sense I don't understand how the IA should choose to give land to a vassal... I'm asking if they are not necessary for the "no" branch or the modifiers with "0" in the "yes" are sufficient as it is apparent in my situation.

I could consider this as if in C programming language I had written an "if" / "else if", and so I could write only an "else" for the "no" condition?

 

[richvh]

I could consider this as if in C programming language I had written an "if" / "else if", and so I could write only an "else" for the "no" condition?

if = {
   limit = {
      <condition>
   <effect>
if = {
   limit= {
      NOT = {
         <condition>
      }
   }
   <effect>
}

 

[fanoI]

Yes but if I want to do an "else" it is not possible? That is I have to do another "if" with all negated or I could do something as:

if = {
   limit = {
      <condition>
   <effect>
}
else = {
   # no <condition> is implicit
   <effect>
}

If I write "opinion = { who = FROM value = 0 }" is this equivalent to:

• value is 0?
• value is < 0?
• value is > 0?
• value >= 0?
• value <= 0?

 

[richvh]

value = 0 returns TRUE if value is >=0; NOT = { value = 0 } returns TRUE if value is < 0.

 

[majortopio]

Is it possible to make an antipope the religious head for leaders who aren't in his liege's realm?

 

[fanoI]

value = 0 returns TRUE if value is >=0; NOT = { value = 0 } returns TRUE if value is < 0.

Thanks richvh!

So when I write in the IA opinion:

	modifier = {
		factor = 0.75
		NOT = {
			opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
		}
	}

I've written if "opinion < 50"? If it so, I intended obviously >= 50 so I should remove the "NOT"?
But then why it seems to work :wacko: ?

So this should work?

namespace = COR

# The Roman Republic had success and reformed the Western Roman Empire / Roman Empire
# now we are requesting to the Pope to join the Empire.
character_event = {
	id = COR.0
	desc = "COR.0.desc"
    	picture = GFX_evt_emissary
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_diplomacy
    
    	is_triggered_only = yes
    
	# The Pope accepts the demand
    	option = {
        	name = EVTOPTA_COR_0

	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
		
			# An ambitious Pope would not accept peaceful
			# vassalization!	
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				trait = ambitious
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				# if opinion is < 0 he should never accept
				NOT = {
                                    opinion = { who = FROM value = 0}
				}
  			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				# if opinion is >= 25 he could start to think to accept
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 25 }
				
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.50
                                # if opinion is >= 50 a 50% of chance he would accept
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.75
                                # if opinion is >= 75 a 75% of chance he would accept (that is he accepts for sure)
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 75 }
			}	
		}

		b_roma = {
			grant_title = PREV
		}
		opinion = {
			who = FROM
			modifier = opinion_restored_to_rome
		}

		# Things to do:
		# - the Pope should become a Senator of Rome (only passive
		#   vote should never elected as the ruler!)
		# - the Pope should become Chaplain and should not never removed
		# - the Pope should not get the recurring claim on the County Rome

		# In exchange of the Bishorship of Rome
		# the Pope become a vassal of the callee
		set_defacto_liege = FROM
		# Inform the new Liege that the Pope is now ready to serve
		FROM = { character_event = { id = COR.1 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR1" } } 
    	}

	# The Pope does NOT accept the demand
    	option = {
       	name = EVTOPTB_COR_0
                
	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
                        # Nothing is needed as we get here automatically
		}

		FROM = {
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_disappointed
				who = ROOT
				months = 120
			}
			character_event = { id = COR.2 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR2" } 
		}
	}
}

 

[richvh]

Thanks richvh!

So when I write in the IA opinion:

	modifier = {
		factor = 0.75
		NOT = {
			opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
		}
	}

I've written if "opinion < 50"? If it so, I intended obviously >= 50 so I should remove the "NOT"?
But then why it seems to work :wacko: ?

So this should work?

namespace = COR

# The Roman Republic had success and reformed the Western Roman Empire / Roman Empire
# now we are requesting to the Pope to join the Empire.
character_event = {
	id = COR.0
	desc = "COR.0.desc"
    	picture = GFX_evt_emissary
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_diplomacy
    
    	is_triggered_only = yes
    
	# The Pope accepts the demand
    	option = {
        	name = EVTOPTA_COR_0

	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
		
			# An ambitious Pope would not accept peaceful
			# vassalization!	
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				trait = ambitious
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				# if opinion is < 0 he should never accept
				NOT = {
                                    opinion = { who = FROM value = 0}
				}
  			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.5
				# if opinion is >= 25 he could start to think to accept
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 25 }
				
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.50
                                # if opinion is >= 50 a 50% of chance he would accept
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.75
                                # if opinion is >= 75 a 75% of chance he would accept (that is he accepts for sure)
				opinion = { who = FROM value = 75 }
			}	
		}

		b_roma = {
			grant_title = PREV
		}
		opinion = {
			who = FROM
			modifier = opinion_restored_to_rome
		}

		# Things to do:
		# - the Pope should become a Senator of Rome (only passive
		#   vote should never elected as the ruler!)
		# - the Pope should become Chaplain and should not never removed
		# - the Pope should not get the recurring claim on the County Rome

		# In exchange of the Bishorship of Rome
		# the Pope become a vassal of the callee
		set_defacto_liege = FROM
		# Inform the new Liege that the Pope is now ready to serve
		FROM = { character_event = { id = COR.1 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR1" } } 
    	}

	# The Pope does NOT accept the demand
    	option = {
       	name = EVTOPTB_COR_0
                
	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
                        # Nothing is needed as we get here automatically
		}

		FROM = {
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_disappointed
				who = ROOT
				months = 120
			}
			character_event = { id = COR.2 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR2" } 
		}
	}
}

Actually... that doesn't work that well. From 0 to 24 opinion, the pope has full potential to accept. At 25-49 opinion, his chance of accepting is halved, then halved again from 50-74, and above 75 opinion he .5*.5*.75 chance of accepting. You should reverse those opinion checks so the lower the opinion, the less likely he is to accept. All modifiers that meet the test are multiplied against the factor.

 

[Zenthree]

character_event = {
	id = 777100
	desc = EVTDESC777100
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	immediate = {
		any_vassal = {
			limit = {
				any_realm_title = {
					AND = {
						higher_tier_than = BARON
						ROOT = {
							primary_title = {
								PREVPREV = {
									NOT = {
										de_jure_liege = PREV
									}
								}
							}
						}
					}
				}
			}
			set_defacto_liege = THIS
		}
		any_demesne_title = {
			limit = {
				is_capital = no
				ROOT = {
					primary_title = {
						PREVPREV = {
							de_jure_liege = PREV
						}
					}
				}
			}
			county = {
				create_character = {
					random_traits = yes
					religion = PREV
					culture = PREV
				}
				new_character = {
					usurp_title_plus_barony_if_unlanded = PREV
					set_defacto_liege = THIS
				}
			}
		}
	}
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA777100 # I see...
	}
}

should work.

For some reason, this breaks the event and causes the option to not show up, making it impossible to close. It also didn't work :,(

I can't find an error in the syntax, though. Then again, my scripting is far from perfect.

 

[fanoI]

Actually... that doesn't work that well. From 0 to 24 opinion, the pope has full potential to accept. At 25-49 opinion, his chance of accepting is halved, then halved again from 50-74, and above 75 opinion he .5*.5*.75 chance of accepting. You should reverse those opinion checks so the lower the opinion, the less likely he is to accept. All modifiers that meet the test are multiplied against the factor.

Indeed I was thinking this night that between 0 and 20 he could accept with full potential so it is for this that you should negate the condition to emulate the construct "x < y and x > z" so this version should be more correct (I hope o):

namespace = COR

# The Roman Republic had success and reformed the Western Roman Empire / Roman Empire
# now we are requesting to the Pope to join the Empire.
character_event = {
	id = COR.0
	desc = "COR.0.desc"
    	picture = GFX_evt_emissary
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_diplomacy
    
    	is_triggered_only = yes
    
	# The Pope accepts the demand
    	option = {
        	name = EVTOPTA_COR_0

	   	ai_chance = { 
			factor = 50
		
			# An ambitious Pope would not accept peaceful
			# vassalization!	
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				trait = ambitious
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				# if opinion is < 0 he should never accept
				NOT = {
                                    opinion = { who = FROM value = 0 }
				}
      			}
			modifier = {
				 factor = 0.25
				 # if opinion is between 0 and 25 he could start to think to accept
				  NOT = {
					 opinion = { who = FROM value = 25 }
				  }
			}
			modifier = {
				 factor = 0.50
                                 # if opinion is between 25 and a 50 he should have a 50% of chance to accept
                                NOT = {
				         opinion = { who = FROM value = 50 }
                               }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0.75
                                # if opinion is between 50 and 75 he should have a 75% of chance he should accept (that is he accepts for sure)
                                NOT = {
				        opinion = { who = FROM value = 75 }
                                }
 			}
                        # if he has an opinion between 75 and 100 no check is needed, he always accept	
		 }

		b_roma = {
			grant_title = PREV
		}
		opinion = {
			who = FROM
			modifier = opinion_restored_to_rome
		}

		# Things to do:
		# - the Pope should become a Senator of Rome (only passive
		#   vote should never elected as the ruler!)
		# - the Pope should become Chaplain and should not never removed (a sort penalty?)
		# - the Pope should not get the recurring claim on the County Rome

		# In exchange of the Bishorship of Rome
		# the Pope become a vassal of the callee
		set_defacto_liege = FROM
		# Inform the new Liege that the Pope is now ready to serve
		FROM = { character_event = { id = COR.1 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR1" } } 
    	}

	# The Pope does NOT accept the demand
    	option = {
       	name = EVTOPTB_COR_0
                
	   	ai_chance = { 
  			factor = 50
                        # Nothing is needed as we get here automatically
		 }

		 FROM = {
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_disappointed
				who = ROOT
				months = 120
			}
			character_event = { id = COR.2 tooltip = "EVTTOOLTIPCOR2" } 
		}
	}
}

It remains true that the "no" branch could not have conditions? In the end it the "yes" fails is OK to say not with the original modifier... doing checks in this case should have only sense if the Pope would have the possibility to make three choices (I don't now for example if he was greedy he could say "well if you give me some money maybe..." :laugh.

 

[Elm0__]

I've recently tried modding holy war casus belli. My aim is to make holy wars to give attacker only these holdings that were occupied during the war. Sadly, using gain_all_occupied_titles will give any holding, regardless of its de jure dependence. I tried using something like that in on_success:

any_demesne_title = {
				limit = {
					de_jure_liege_or_above = FROM
					any_realm_province = {
						limit = {
							controlled_by = ROOT
							is_occupied = yes
							}
						}
					}
				gain_title = ROOT	#
				}				
			}

This doesn't work too - attackers gets nothing every time Any ideas/suggestions?

 

[jursamaj]

It remains true that the "no" branch could not have conditions? In the end it the "yes" fails is OK to say not with the original modifier... doing checks in this case should have only sense if the Pope would have the possibility to make three choices (I don't now for example if he was greedy he could say "well if you give me some money maybe..." :laugh.

You seem to have a basic misunderstanding of the language being used here. This is not a script, with branching & flow control based on if statements. The "we get here automatically" is meaningless.

The factors are weights. Both options will get their weights evaluated, then a random number generator will choose between the options in proportion to the weights. And each if in the 1st option will be evaluated, not just the first, and all the successful ones will be multiplied together with the base factor (50 in your case).

If the pope is ambitious or his opinion<0, the factor 0 will apply, but so will .25, .50, and .75. So, 50*0*.25*.5*.75=0. 0 weight vs. the 2nd option's 50 weight will always choose the 2nd.

If the pope is not ambitious, and his 0<=opinion<25: 50*.25*.5*.75=4.6875. Set against the 50 of the 2nd option, that gives about 8.6% chance to say yes.

If the pope is not ambitious, and his 25<=opinion<50: 50*.5*.75=18.75. Set against the 50 of the 2nd option, that gives about 27.3% chance to say yes.

If the pope is not ambitious, and his 50<=opinion<75: 50*.75=37.5. Set against the 50 of the 2nd option, that gives about 42.9% chance to say yes.

If the pope is not ambitious, and his 75<=opinion<=100: 50. Set against the 50 of the 2nd option, that gives 50% chance to say yes.

If you actually want the percentages described in your comments, you'll need to change things. 1st, give the 2nd option a base factor of 6, and a modifier with factor=0 when opinion=75. On the 1st option, base factor 2, drop the opinion not 25 modifier, and change the .50 and 0.75 opinion factors to .3333 and 9.

 

[jursamaj]

I've recently tried modding holy war casus belli. My aim is to make holy wars to give attacker only these holdings that were occupied during the war. Sadly, using gain_all_occupied_titles will give any holding, regardless of its de jure dependence. I tried using something like that in on_success:

any_demesne_title = {
				limit = {
					de_jure_liege_or_above = FROM
					any_realm_province = {
						limit = {
							controlled_by = ROOT
							is_occupied = yes
							}
						}
					}
				gain_title = ROOT	#
				}				
			}

This doesn't work too - attackers gets nothing every time Any ideas/suggestions?

Whose scope is that any_demesne_title in? If it's in ROOT's scope, then it's checking titles he already owns.

 

[jursamaj]

Any ideas/suggestions?

Also, you might try

	on_success = {
			ROOT = {
				gain_all_occupied_titles = FROM			
				give_nickname = nick_the_conqueror
			}

That's what the invasion & revolt CB's use.

 

[ShamanMcLamie]

Does anyone know of a mod, or how to mod CK2 in order to have expanded Coat of Arms Editor options. I'm particularly looking to add the designs from the three Dynasty Shields DLCs. I've seen expanded Coat of Arms editors in the Game of Thrones and Elder Kings mods, but I'm looking for a stand alone mod, or how to make my own to use in the vanilla game.

 

[Hotl3looded]

Let's say I add a building like this in a castle:

#Italian Pike formations
	ca_culture_italian_1 = {
		desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
		potential = {
			FROM = { culture = italian }
		}
		trigger = { TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 0 }
		prerequisites = { ca_wall_2 }
		build_cost = 200
		build_time = 730
		pikemen = 30
		pikemen_morale = 0.15
		ai_creation_factor = 101
		
		extra_tech_building_start = 0.8
	}

Will the pikemen_morale = 0.15 affect only the units from this building or will it affect all the pikemen produced in the castle?

 

[Dragonovith]

How do I make a event that has a very rare chance of happening? I didn't understood well how mean_time_to_happen works