Modding - Quick questions

[Meneth]

actually, the odd thing is that those are two files in the same mod folder. ie. the mod has both the (modified) 00_on_actions.txt and a separate LI_VIET_on_actions.txt in the same folder.
Since that same folder also contains separate files that add pulse events to the same scope, and they both seem to be triggering, I'm not sure that's the issue...
(though now that I think about it, it's possible the vanilla events in that scope weren't being triggered... I'll need to look into that)

To my knowledge, based on last time I tried, it is only ever possible to have a single file trigger anything from a specific on actions pulse.

 

[riknap]

To my knowledge, based on last time I tried, it is only ever possible to have a single file trigger anything from a specific on actions pulse.

I see. That might explain why I haven't noticed some vanilla events when playing the mod (I'm guessing the other file overrides the other).
If this is the case though, then which file takes precedence in these cases? Is it the file that is loaded first (ie. alphanumerically first), or loaded last (ie. therefore "overwriting" the previous on actions pulse )?
On a tangentially related concern, how does the mod launched also decide which mod files are loaded? for example, mod A and mod B both have the same file. Is the mod that is listed alphabetically first loaded first and the file from the mod loaded last ignored, or is it the opposite (ie. the file loaded last overwrites/overrides the file loaded first)?

 

[Meneth]

I see. That might explain why I haven't noticed some vanilla events when playing the mod (I'm guessing the other file overrides the other).
If this is the case though, then which file takes precedence in these cases? Is it the file that is loaded first (ie. alphanumerically first), or loaded last (ie. therefore "overwriting" the previous on actions pulse )?
On a tangentially related concern, how does the mod launched also decide which mod files are loaded? for example, mod A and mod B both have the same file. Is the mod that is listed alphabetically first loaded first and the file from the mod loaded last ignored, or is it the opposite (ie. the file loaded last overwrites/overrides the file loaded first)?

I'm afraid I have no idea.

 

[Elfman200]

is it possible to disband a single unit through an event based on what provience it is in?

thanks

 

[Dhop84]

Going back to the monument post earlier probaly a real silly question but 1) what do you mean by set a flag and 2) how do i do that ??(real basic i no)

 

[Meneth]

Going back to the monument post earlier probaly a real silly question but 1) what do you mean by set a flag and 2) how do i do that ??(real basic i no)

set_character_flag = dead_father
It is a way of storing information on a character, province, or global level. Very useful for event chains and such, and to ensure an event can only fire once.

 

[Dhop84]

I get ya cheers mate its the terminology that throws me but i get what your saying now

 

[oritemis]

Not a bad idea. I'm going to see if I can write a program to run it for me. Not a bad idea at all.

I have done it and works. If you wish I can send you throgh e-mail.

Thank you!

 

[riknap]

I'm afraid I have no idea.

I think I might have detected the issue - an on actions file outside the main 00_on_actions.txt that is listed/arranged after it overrides the pulse events as you said.
So using my problem as the example, the entire contents of the childhood yearly pulse from "LI_VIET_on_actions.txt" completely displaces the entirety of the pulse from 00_on_actions.txt.
... That kind of feels like a retarded mechanic decision, though paradox probably has their reasons (well, in any case, it does simplify overwriting vanilla events for overhaul events like AGOT/EK :laugh: )

 

[Lysistrata]

I'm trying to make the Janissary Corps as a mercenary band only available to an empire-tier Ottoman Empire title I've made, which will basically be the Ottoman Sultanate's equivalent of the Roman Empire.

The only problem is, I don't know how to make them only available to a title that probably won't exist for most of a game. I've tried "allow = { { primary_title = e_ottoman } }" but for some reason that results in them becoming the de jure liege of the entire game - that's everything, even landless titles.

I've considered making them a creation event, similar to what the Varangian Guard will have in TOG, but I don't know how to make events. Any suggestions?

 

[Marshall18]

I remember reading that some nations are given "free armies" to start with (for balance reasons). Is there a way to mod this (give someone one of those armies)?

 

[kaycat83]

Hello I´m new to modding. I would like to change the embargo cb so that a ruler wont attack a republic if he has an opinion of 40 or more with all trade post owners of that republic in his realm. I have a hard time understanding the commands in the cb_types file.

 

[Kimberly]

Hello I´m new to modding. I would like to change the embargo cb so that a ruler wont attack a republic if he has an opinion of 40 or more with all trade post owners of that republic in his realm. I have a hard time understanding the commands in the cb_types file.

Do you want to change it so a ruler won't or can't use the embargo under those circumstances? If you want to stop it from being possible altogether, replace the can_use section of the embargo CB with this:

	can_use = {
		ROOT = {
			independent = yes
			NOT = { has_embargo = FROM }
		}
		FROM = {
			OR = {
				AND = {
				is_merchant_republic = yes
				NOT = { reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } }
				}
				AND = {
					higher_tier_than = DUKE
					any_realm_lord = {
						is_merchant_republic = yes
						 NOT = { reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } }
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

The code reverse_opinion = {who = ROOT value = 40} basically asks "Does ROOT (the person using the CB, the person for whom the event fires, the decision taker, etc.) have an opinion of this character that is equal or greater to 40?". If the value is 40 or higher, the condition is satisfied. You want the CB to be unable to be used if that's the case, so I enclosed it in NOT = { }. I also added an AND = { } so that the CB would only be usable if a republic was independent and had the CB user had a low opinion, or if the republic was not independent and the CB user had a low opinion. This is necessary because those two options (either independent or not) were enclosed in an OR = { }.

 

[riknap]

Do you want to change it so a ruler won't or can't use the embargo under those circumstances? If you want to stop it from being possible altogether, replace the can_use section of the embargo CB with this:

	can_use = {
		ROOT = {
			independent = yes
			NOT = { has_embargo = FROM }
		}
		FROM = {
			OR = {
				AND = {
				is_merchant_republic = yes
				NOT = { reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } }
				}
				AND = {
					higher_tier_than = DUKE
					any_realm_lord = {
						is_merchant_republic = yes
						 NOT = { reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } }
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

The code reverse_opinion = {who = ROOT value = 40} basically asks "Does ROOT (the person using the CB, the person for whom the event fires, the decision taker, etc.) have an opinion of this character that is equal or greater to 40?". If the value is 40 or higher, the condition is satisfied. You want the CB to be unable to be used if that's the case, so I enclosed it in NOT = { }. I also added an AND = { } so that the CB would only be usable if a republic was independent and had the CB user had a low opinion, or if the republic was not independent and the CB user had a low opinion. This is necessary because those two options (either independent or not) were enclosed in an OR = { }.

does this work?
in any case, can I have your permission to use this code (after modifying the value a bit) in one of my cb overhauls (that is for public release)?

 

[kaycat83]

Thanks Kimberly! I will try this out, I get so easy lost in these codes. I don´t know if the won´t or can´t use embargo matter, I think it will be fine the way you done it. What I´m a bit confused about is that the embargoing rulers opinion should be compared with the patrician/patricians that owns the trade posts in the embargoing rulers realm, and not with the ruler of the republic. Unless he also own trade posts in the embargoing rulers realm, then the opinion should compare to him as well.

 

[Kimberly]

does this work?
in any case, can I have your permission to use this code (after modifying the value a bit) in one of my cb overhauls (that is for public release)?

Uh, well I must warn you I haven't tested it. But reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } is used to check for opinions in events and such, so I imagine it should work here. Please do test it before you make it public.

Thanks Kimberly! I will try this out, I get so easy lost in these codes. I don´t know if the won´t or can´t use embargo matter, I think it will be fine the way you done it. What I´m a bit confused about is that the embargoing rulers opinion should be compared with the patrician/patricians that owns the trade posts in the embargoing rulers realm, and not with the ruler of the republic. Unless he also own trade posts in the embargoing rulers realm, then the opinion should compare to him as well.

If characters won't use the CB in that situation, even if the option exists, I'd have to mess around with the AI--I don't know how to do that. If they can't use the CB then well, they can't. That's what I went with here. If you made it a bit more complex you could make it so the opinion only mattered for the AI and not player characters, which come to think of it is probably a good idea, if you don't want to be locked out of using the CB due to your own character's opinion (which is hard to change).

The vanilla CB asks whether the person you're declaring war on is the leader of a republic, or whether he has a vassal that is a republic, and I simply added an opinion check of that republic's leader. Checking the agressor's opinion of characters that are part of the republic and own trade posts in the aggressor's country is a bit more complicated.

 

[riknap]

Uh, well I must warn you I haven't tested it. But reverse_opinion = { who = ROOT value = 40 } is used to check for opinions in events and such, so I imagine it should work here. Please do test it before you make it public.

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it theoretically seems to work, at least based on the code :laugh:
incidentally, you can't directly "mess around with the AI", at least not with ck2 anyway.

 

[Lysistrata]

I'm trying to make the Janissary Corps as a mercenary band only available to an empire-tier Ottoman Empire title I've made, which will basically be the Ottoman Sultanate's equivalent of the Roman Empire.

The only problem is, I don't know how to make them only available to a title that probably won't exist for most of a game. I've tried "allow = { { primary_title = e_ottoman } }" but for some reason that results in them becoming the de jure liege of the entire game - that's everything, even landless titles.

I've considered making them a creation event, similar to what the Varangian Guard will have in TOG, but I don't know how to make events. Any suggestions?

Bump

 

[Meneth]

Bump

Do it via event. See teutonic_order_events for how you can do it.
And set it as active = no via the title history file.

 

[Marshall18]

I remember reading that some nations are given "free armies" to start with (for balance reasons). Is there a way to mod this (give someone one of those armies)?

No one knows, or is it impossible to do?