Modding - Quick questions

[CJL78]

Don't know a decent way to do it, but a roundabout method would be to give the current ruler some sort of flag. When the ruler dies, an event would then fire for the next ruler that removes the title and this event would be triggered by a ruler not having the flag. If that makes any sense.

Yeah thought of that but I'm trying to avoid even that. I was wondering what you can do with succession law, such as make a custom succession law, I haven't messed around with it at all yet.

 

[Meneth]

Yeah thought of that but I'm trying to avoid even that. I was wondering what you can do with succession law, such as make a custom succession law, I haven't messed around with it at all yet.

Have an on_death event destroy the title. It'll be inherited but instantly destroyed. The heir will never see the event, but he might get the inheritance alert.
That's probably the best way to do it.

 

[ChildeR]

And so on. As for the odd decisions you're seeing, usually that's due to a broken bracket somewhere, though I did not see any in your snippet.

Missing = can also cause it IME, so fixing the traits may fix it as well.

 

[richvh]

You can't make custom succession laws, they're all hard-coded.

 

[MartMakkie]

I tried to make the HRE a titular title and replace it's Du Jure with the empire of Germania, but it crashes during launch....
(I used swmh)
I placed this in the file titular_titles.txt:

e_hre = {

	color={ 155 155 155 }
	color2={ 220 220 20 }
	
	capital = 90 # Jülich / Aachen
	
	religion=catholic
	culture = german
	short_name = yes

	
	allow = {
		always = no
	}

and this in landed_titles.txt:

e_germania = {

	color={ 63 62 9 }
	color2={ 220 220 20 }
	
	capital = 449 # Österreich
	
	religion=catholic
	culture = german
	short_name = yes
	
	allow = {
		culture_group = central_germanic
			OR = {
				culture = dutch
				culture = frisian
				culture = bohemian
				culture = pommeranian
			}
		any_demesne_title = {
			tier = king
			NOT = { title = e_hre }
		}
	}
	
	(du jure HRE)
}

and replaced the localisation of the HRE with one for Germania and placed the HRE localisation in the titular localisation

I hope somebody could help me

 

[jordarkelf]

I tried to make the HRE a titular title and replace it's Du Jure with the empire of Germania, but it crashes during launch....

Landed titles has bad parsing, and doesn't like it when you check on a title which wasn't defined before.

Rename titular_titles.txt to 0_titular_titles.txt so it loads before landed_titles.txt, that way you can check on e_hre in e_germania.

And of course make sure your files are closed correctly, and you have a flag for e_germania.

 

[MartMakkie]

Thank you jordarkelf,
It did work now (beside the fact that I put 0_ before titular_titles.txt I als resised the e-germania flag...)
but while testing I came across another problem: while I sad your title shouldn't be HRE to create it states that you must have it...

 

[richvh]

Do Dutch, Frisian, Bohemian and Pommeranian fall into the central_germanic group? Because as written, you must be both in the central_germanic group, and one of those cultures. I think you want to move the culture_group line into the OR. Also, this:

		any_demesne_title = {
			tier = king
			NOT = { title = e_hre }
		}

will match every king-tier title you have and ignore the not HRE portion, as that isn't a king-tier title. I think you want separate any_demesne_title sections for the tier = king part and the not HRE part:

e_germania = {

	color={ 63 62 9 }
	color2={ 220 220 20 }
	
	capital = 449 # Österreich
	
	religion=catholic
	culture = german
	short_name = yes
	
	allow = {
		OR = {
			culture_group = central_germanic
			culture = dutch
			culture = frisian
			culture = bohemian
			culture = pommeranian
		}
		any_demesne_title = {
			tier = king
		}
		NOT = {
			any_demesne_title = {
				tier = emperor
				title = e_hre
			}
		}
	}
	
	#(insert de jure HRE vassals here)
}

 

[MartMakkie]

That was excellently what I was missing!
thank you richvh

edit: I have another question: how should I mod a decision for the pope that he can grand the HRE (if it doesn't exists, and the character who gets it is liked a lot, has quite some prestige and piety and must holds at least 2 kingdoms but NO empire)
this is what i've got so far:

title_protector_of_the_catholic_faith = {
	dignity = 0.23
	grant_limit = 1
	opinion_effect = 50
	show_as_title = yes
	realm_in_name = no
	monthly_prestige = 5
	
	allow = {
		religion = catholic
		
		FROM = {
			has_landed_title = k_papal_state
			
		}
		NOT = {
			tier = emperor
			}
		OR = { 
			tier = king
			has_landed_title = c_roma
			}
	}
	
	gain_effect = { 
		grant_title = ROOT
			copy_title_laws = ROOT
		add_trait = augustus
			}
	lose_effect {
	}
	message = yes
	}

 

[RedRooster81]

Minor titles can only go to direct vassals (courtiers in your court and the landholders right under you IIRC). So you'd have to be the pope's vassal for this to work.

You could make a trait or character modifier (maybe even a triggered modifier) for this to work.

 

[Jakius]

Is there anyway to have an event check for a province's de jure groupings?

 

[jordarkelf]

Is there anyway to have an event check for a province's de jure groupings?

What are de jure groupings?
You can check any title's de jure liege by scoping to dejure_liege_title from it.

 

[Jakius]

I mean as in to check whether a given province is in the de jure realm of, say, France. Regardless of whether somebody holds the title or not. The goal here is to find a way to pinpoint regions without having to use every province id

 

[RedRooster81]

I mean as in to check whether a given province is in the de jure realm of, say, France. Regardless of whether somebody holds the title or not. The goal here is to find a way to pinpoint regions without having to use every province id

I've had trouble pinpointing specific titles or provinces for effects. Province decisions (as in EU3) would be a huge help, Paradox.

I think that the /map/continent.txt file does serve a purpose for this sort of thing. I have tried it in the past and it seemed to work fine. Anyone know for sure?

 

[jordarkelf]

I've had trouble pinpointing specific titles or provinces for effects. Province decisions (as in EU3) would be a huge help, Paradox.

I think that the /map/continent.txt file does serve a purpose for this sort of thing. I have tried it in the past and it seemed to work fine. Anyone know for sure?

Continent works, but it requires you to setup all provinces in "continents" beforehand.

 

[Jakius]

I've had trouble pinpointing specific titles or provinces for effects. Province decisions (as in EU3) would be a huge help, Paradox.

I think that the /map/continent.txt file does serve a purpose for this sort of thing. I have tried it in the past and it seemed to work fine. Anyone know for sure?

Well it can be done a la magnate lords, but the trouble with that is a modifier can only be made for one province every game, predefined by the province ID. What I'd like to see is a way that a modifier-triggering event has a chance of firing anywhere within a certain area. Continents might be an option actually; make a "baltic" continent and what not.

 

[RedRooster81]

Well it can be done a la magnate lords, but the trouble with that is a modifier can only be made for one province every game, predefined by the province ID. What I'd like to see is a way that a modifier-triggering event has a chance of firing anywhere within a certain area. Continents might be an option actually; make a "baltic" continent and what not.

Yes, as jordarkelf said in reply to my question, continents do work (thanks for the confirmation ). You could set up a Baltic 'continent' then have a province event fire like:

trigger = {
        continent = baltic
        terrain = forest
}

option = {
        name = "Timber!"
        add_province_modifier = { name = timber duration = -1 }
}

I am guessing, to make a ML type event for a Baltic province with forested terrain. (I haven't tried terrain as a trigger condition myself yet, but it does appear in /events/battle_events.txt.)

 

[Arko]

(I haven't tried terrain as a trigger condition myself yet, but it does appear in /events/battle_events.txt.)

terrain as condition works very well.

Well it can be done a la magnate lords, but the trouble with that is a modifier can only be made for one province every game, predefined by the province ID. What I'd like to see is a way that a modifier-triggering event has a chance of firing anywhere within a certain area. Continents might be an option actually; make a "baltic" continent and what not.

you can add random effects of course with something like this :

			random_list = {
				50 = { add_province_modifier = { name = elevage1	duration = -1	} }
				50 = {}

 

[apg]

yes in my experience continents and terrain work as they should.

I have defined my own continent for where an event can fire related to storms - so i only have it for in places where it is known to rain, not around jerusalem etc.

 

[Jakius]

that should work quite well. Now to figure out how i want to define my continents. Thanks guys!