Modding - Quick questions

[jursamaj]

Just checked these out. The while clause doesn't appear to have anything to do with the remove_character_modifiers. Furthermore, in all 7 of these instances, the command is used to remove all instances of a character modifier anyway (999 for the duels and 30 for the coronation). This makes me think that the command is intended to remove all instances of a modifier anyway, though I'm not sure why they'd do that as simply remove_character_modifier does this anyway.

Yes, that version of the code wipes out the modifiers, then the 'while' counts the modifiers in as it counts the variable down. I was thinking, if the remove_character_modifiers with amount 1 works, it would be simple to reverse the logic to put the number into a variable, subtract 1 from the variable, then use the original logic to put the number of modifiers in the variable back on the character.

I just had a thought: are we looking at this backwards? Does 'remove_character_modifier' only remove 1 of a stacking modifier?

 

[GodModder]

Yes, that version of the code wipes out the modifiers, then the 'while' counts the modifiers in as it counts the variable down. I was thinking, if the remove_character_modifiers with amount 1 works, it would be simple to reverse the logic to put the number into a variable, subtract 1 from the variable, then use the original logic to put the number of modifiers in the variable back on the character.

I just had a thought: are we looking at this backwards? Does 'remove_character_modifier' only remove 1 of a stacking modifier?

remove_character_modifier removes all instances of a modifier. remove_character_modifiers also removes all instances of a modifier, according to Whizzer's tests confirming my issue, unfortunately.

I'd like to write something that would save the number of modifier instances, subtract it by one, and add that number back after removing them, but I don't know where to even start with variables.

 

[jursamaj]

remove_character_modifier removes all instances of a modifier. remove_character_modifiers also removes all instances of a modifier, according to Whizzer's tests confirming my issue, unfortunately.

I'd like to write something that would save the number of modifier instances, subtract it by one, and add that number back after removing them, but I don't know where to even start with variables.

Are these your own modifiers? If so, then here's a solution:

Whenever you add modifier instances, add that many to a corresponding variable as well. When you later want to remove 1 or more instances, subtract that many from the variable (minimum of 0), remove all instances, and use a while loop to add the new total number of instances.

It's clunky, but at this point, I don't expect the devs to fix the remove_character_modifiers functionality.

 

[GodModder]

Are these your own modifiers? If so, then here's a solution:

Whenever you add modifier instances, add that many to a corresponding variable as well. When you later want to remove 1 or more instances, subtract that many from the variable (minimum of 0), remove all instances, and use a while loop to add the new total number of instances.

It's clunky, but at this point, I don't expect the devs to fix the remove_character_modifiers functionality.

That's what I'd like to do, but I don't know how to do variables. I'll see if the wiki has a page on them.

 

[Whizzer]

That's what I'd like to do, but I don't know how to do variables. I'll see if the wiki has a page on them.

There's some information on the Scripting page.

 

[GodModder]

There's some information on the Scripting page.

Thank you!

It doesn't look like instances of a character modifier are something that can be exported to a variable though. That torpedoes my idea. Unless I'm missing something?

 

[jonjowett]

Thank you!

It doesn't look like instances of a character modifier are something that can be exported to a variable though. That torpedoes my idea. Unless I'm missing something?

Pseudocode:

Whenever you add 1 instance of the modifier:

add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
if my_character_variable==0 set my_character_variable=1 ("check_variable", "set_variable")
else increase my_character_variable by 1 ("change_variable")

Whenever you want to remove 1 instance of the modifier:

remove all instances of my_character_modifier
decrease my_character_variable by 1 ("subtract_variable")
set my_temporary_counter = 0
while my_temporary_counter <= my_character_variable:
 --- add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
 --- increase my_temporary_counter by 1

 

[jursamaj]

Pseudocode:

Whenever you add 1 instance of the modifier:

add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
if my_character_variable==0 set my_character_variable=1 ("check_variable", "set_variable")
else increase my_character_variable by 1 ("change_variable")

Whenever you want to remove 1 instance of the modifier:

remove all instances of my_character_modifier
decrease my_character_variable by 1 ("subtract_variable")
set my_temporary_counter = 0
while my_temporary_counter <= my_character_variable:
 --- add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
 --- increase my_temporary_counter by 1

My understanding is that you don't need the 'if 0 set to 1' bit. Attempting to increase a variable that hasn't previously been set just assumes it starts from 0 anyway.

 

[neutrondecay]

What might cause the 'dukes called kings' behaviour to misfire? I have that option set to 'yes' on several cultures, and most of them display the expected behaviour - they use king-tier titles and regnal numbers if they are independent dukes. But I added the option to a longstanding culture recently, and it's only displaying the regnal numbers, not the king-tier titles. The king-tier titles are set in localisation for the culture, and the in-game titles are independent duchies. Would I also need to set a distinctive duke-tier title to make it work?

Thanks,

nd

 

[GodModder]

Pseudocode:

Whenever you add 1 instance of the modifier:

add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
if my_character_variable==0 set my_character_variable=1 ("check_variable", "set_variable")
else increase my_character_variable by 1 ("change_variable")

Whenever you want to remove 1 instance of the modifier:

remove all instances of my_character_modifier
decrease my_character_variable by 1 ("subtract_variable")
set my_temporary_counter = 0
while my_temporary_counter <= my_character_variable:
 --- add 1 instance of my_character_modifier
 --- increase my_temporary_counter by 1

Hit a snag. For the while clause, how do I compare one variable to another? I don't see anything on the Conditions wiki page or Scripting#Variables wiki page.

 

[Whizzer]

Hit a snag. For the while clause, how do I compare one variable to another? I don't see anything on the Conditions wiki page or Scripting#Variables wiki page.

check_variable = {
    which = first_variable
    which >= second_variable
}

 

[Gunthah]

I'm having an issue with the Pope where he excommunicated my character, i repented sins, he lifted the excommunication and a few days later he excommunicated me again. I remove the trait with the console but he keeps doing it. By changing character and trying to request excommunication on my character I see the -1000 penalty is working and I can't request it, however the Pope keeps doing it. My question is where is the event or decision the Pope is using to do this?, because I don't think it can be happening through a regular request but I can't find where else.

 

[GodModder]

I'm having an issue with the Pope where he excommunicated my character, i repented sins, he lifted the excommunication and a few days later he excommunicated me again. I remove the trait with the console but he keeps doing it. By changing character and trying to request excommunication on my character I see the -1000 penalty is working and I can't request it, however the Pope keeps doing it. My question is where is the event or decision the Pope is using to do this?, because I don't think it can be happening through a regular request but I can't find where else.

If you use the console command charinfo you can mouse over the event (or its option button) to see the ID of the event.

 

[Gunthah]

If you use the console command charinfo you can mouse over the event (or its option button) to see the ID of the event.

Thanks. It says the event ID is just 2. I tried to find it to see if I could follow my way up to something but it must be hard-coded. I also tried to find my way through the localization text, but no luck. I had three kingdom titles, two of which had free investiture. Changed those to papal and the pope finally calmed down. No request, no event or anything, straight up chain excommunications until I guessed what he wanted.

 

[Whizzer]

Thanks. It says the event ID is just 2. I tried to find it to see if I could follow my way up to something but it must be hard-coded. I also tried to find my way through the localization text, but no luck. I had three kingdom titles, two of which had free investiture. Changed those to papal and the pope finally calmed down. No request, no event or anything, straight up chain excommunications until I guessed what he wanted.

Events 1 and 2 are hardcoded events, used for the notification system, which leaves you no way to track where it came from, but excommunications are mostly done through the semi-hardcoded diplomatic interaction.

 

[GodModder]

I'm writing an event that checks if a ruler has seven adult sons that meet one of various criteria (including a specific trait, being landed, or being married to someone of a specific religion). I looked on the wiki for how I can do this, and discovered that "count = N" is a parameter for scopes, which I didn't know before. I've never used it before, so I want to check that I've got the code for the if = { } section right.

if = {
    limit = {
        any_child = {
            count = 7
            is_female = no
            age = 25
            OR = {
                trait = my_custom_trait
                is_landed = yes
                spouse = {
                    religion = my_custom_religion
                }
            }
        }
    }
    #do thing
}

Does that look right?

I just realized that I may have understood count wrong.

The wiki says "any_ scopes can use count = N. For condition scopes, the scope will evaluate to true only if at least N items match."

I assumed it meant that the scope would evaluate as true if there are N scopes that match all the conditions in the block. But a reread makes me think it means the scope evaluates as true if N conditions given in the trigger block match.

Example.

if = {
     limit = {
          any_courtier = {
               count = 7
              #numerous conditions listed here
          }
     }
    # do thing
}

Does this evaluate true for any courtier that matches at least 7 of these conditions, or does it evaluate true if there are at least 7 courtiers that match all the given conditions?

 

[Whizzer]

I just realized that I may have understood count wrong.

The wiki says "any_ scopes can use count = N. For condition scopes, the scope will evaluate to true only if at least N items match."

I assumed it meant that the scope would evaluate as true if there are N scopes that match all the conditions in the block. But a reread makes me think it means the scope evaluates as true if N conditions given in the trigger block match.

Example.

if = {
     limit = {
          any_courtier = {
               count = 7
              #numerous conditions listed here
          }
     }
    # do thing
}

Does this evaluate true for any courtier that matches at least 7 of these conditions, or does it evaluate true if there are at least 7 courtiers that match all the given conditions?

The latter, all conditions must be met for any given courtier to qualifty towards the count. To do the former, use calc_true_if.

 

[GodModder]

The latter, all conditions must be met for any given courtier to qualifty towards the count. To do the former, use calc_true_if.

That's right, I forgot about calc_true_if. The wiki description of count at the top of the Conditions page does make it sound more like the former, at least to my reading. Thanks.

 

[GodModder]

I want to have the Gulf of Riga song (from Holy Fury) play even when I'm not playing pagans. The music modding page on the wiki is very helpful, and I found the .txt file for Holy Fury's music in the /dlc folder.

My plan is to copy that file to my mod and edit the factor for Gulf of Riga playing, but (because it's DLC music) what folder in my mod should I put it? /music? /dlc? /dlc/music?

 

[Whizzer]

I want to have the Gulf of Riga song (from Holy Fury) play even when I'm not playing pagans. The music modding page on the wiki is very helpful, and I found the .txt file for Holy Fury's music in the /dlc folder.

My plan is to copy that file to my mod and edit the factor for Gulf of Riga playing, but (because it's DLC music) what folder in my mod should I put it? /music? /dlc? /dlc/music?

Use the same folder structure found in the DLC's .zip file, so music goes into MyMod\music.