Modding - Quick questions

[Lordy's]

The patch notes mention the ability to prompt names. However, I can't figure out how it actually works: How do I make a custom message box (or give it some meaningful text, instead of NEWBORN)? And how do I actually retrieve the name from the prompt and use it to rename someone?
Has anyone used this yet or has an idea how it might work?

prompt_name = { player = ROOT # What player should get the prompt type = NEWBORN # What message type to use, as defined in messagetypes.txt. This is what defines the text and picture. The text uses the current scopes portrait = e_hre # Optional. What portrait to show on the right. If not defined, the scoped character (if scope is a character) will be used name_list = LOC_KEY # Optional. What name list to use. Can also use "religion" for religious names of the scoped character's religion, or "culture" for cultural names. If not specified, there will be no "randomize name" button (except for characters, that'll use the standard buttons for newborns). The loc key should contain a list of names separated by pipes. E.G., "LOC_KEY;Name|Name2|Name3;;;;;;x". When the name list is specified, a name from the list will be chosen at random, and hitting "randomize name" will cause the name to change to another random name in the list. When using a loc key rather than culture/religion, custom loc is supported, using the current scopes }

 

[jursamaj]

"any_dejure_liege" is not in the wiki, so it may not be a valid scope.

Vanilla uses it several times, mostly in succession voting.

 

[jursamaj]

    trigger = {
        religion = samaritan
        religion = karaite
    }

Note that this trigger will *never* be true. As written, it aserts that the character has *both* religions. Wrap the 2 religion checks in an OR = { … }.

 

[jursamaj]

The patch notes mention the ability to prompt names. However, I can't figure out how it actually works: How do I make a custom message box (or give it some meaningful text, instead of NEWBORN)? And how do I actually retrieve the name from the prompt and use it to rename someone?
Has anyone used this yet or has an idea how it might work?

To make a custom message box, you'd have to mod it into interface/messagetypes.txt. The text would be defined with localizations for <typename>_SETUP and <typename>_LOG. Thus there is a NEWBORN type already defined, with NEWBORN_SETUP and NEWBORN_LOG localizations (*_LOG prints to the Chronicle…). As you can see in messagetypes.txt, there are options to define pictures and sounds for a message type, and to define a letter_event (which uses another localization key…), plus some other things you'd have to sort out yourself.

The prompt_name effect itself renames the thing it appears in the scope of. So, if you are scoped to an artifact, it renames that artifact; if scoped to a person, renames that person; etc. The 'player' parameter says who gets the popup.

 

[Mike Louis]

Has anyone have the problem of feudal and republic (both regular and merchant) rulers below empire and kingdom tier wearing feudal empire and kingdom headgear and clothing when updating your mods to patch 3.0? Which files do I need to add or edit to correct the problem?

 

[HandicapdHippo]

Has anyone have the problem of feudal and republic (both regular and merchant) rulers below empire and kingdom tier wearing feudal empire and kingdom headgear and clothing when updating your mods to patch 3.0? Which files do I need to add or edit to correct the problem?

Do you have new cultures with new gfx's? A lot of new layers where added to portraits and any custom properties need moving to a higher numbers.

 

[Mike Louis]

Do you have new cultures with new gfx's? A lot of new layers where added to portraits and any custom properties need moving to a higher numbers.

I added new cultures but since they’re using existing gfx from vanilla cultures, I didn’t add any new gfx. Do I need to add any new gfx to the portraits files in order to correct the problem?

 

[HandicapdHippo]

I added new cultures but since they’re using existing gfx from vanilla cultures, I didn’t add any new gfx. Do I need to add any new gfx to the portraits files in order to correct the problem?

No, if you aren't adding any gfx you should be fine if you are referring existing gfx in the culture file. You didn't copy over any files from the gfx or interface folders file to your mod? And does it only effect the new cultures?

 

[Mike Louis]

No, if you aren't adding any gfx you should be fine if you are referring existing gfx in the culture file. You didn't copy over any files from the gfx or interface folders file to your mod? And does it only effect the new cultures?

It effects all cultures, both vanilla and modded. I been trying pinpoint which files in either the gfx or interface folders do I need to edit in order to display the correct headgear and clothing for the landed characters below empire and kingdom tier.

 

[MrGrindor]

Is there a way to add additional holding pictures. Like for example with HF we got new holding pictures for greek culture, is there a way to mod more holding pictures in. I have gone through the vanilla files and while I could find where the holdings are loaded from the files in the gfx files I was unable to find where they get applied to the appropriate culture/graphical culture.

 

[HandicapdHippo]

It effects all cultures, both vanilla and modded. I been trying pinpoint which files in either the gfx or interface folders do I need to edit in order to display the correct headgear and clothing for the landed characters below empire and kingdom tier.

Right but why do you have those files in your mod if you are just reusing vanilla gfx for those culture? have you actually made edits to the graphics files? If so look for the portraits folder under gfx, files there holds the portraits layers for each gfx.

 

[Mike Louis]

Right but why do you have those files in your mod if you are just reusing vanilla gfx for those culture? have you actually made edits to the graphics files? If so look for the portraits folder under gfx, files there holds the portraits layers for each gfx.

I don’t have the gfx/portraits folder since I didn’t make any changes to the vanilla gfx/portraits file.

 

[HandicapdHippo]

I don’t have the gfx/portraits folder since I didn’t make any changes to the vanilla gfx/portraits file.

Then you must have some other conflict, either running other mods or something else. No real idea I'm afraid

 

[Warial]

How to set government type in history files? I'm trying to make it so Xia starts with Chinese Imperial government, but it won't work.
I gave them an Empire tier title e_xia and in it:

1032.1.1={
    holder=206650 # Yuanhao becomes emperor
    law = crown_authority_2
    law = succ_primogeniture
    law = centralization_3
    law = imperial_administration
    law = ze_administration_laws_2
    law = vice_royalty_2
    law = revoke_title_law_1
    government = chinese_imperial_government
    set_title_flag = uses_temple_names_by_script #Titles with this flag give their heirs a temple name via on_death event
    set_title_flag = pretender_chinese_empire #Blocks all grace interactions
    set_title_flag = china_name_Xia
}

But at the game start it still appears as a Monastic Feudal.

 

[richvh]

How to set government type in history files? I'm trying to make it so Xia starts with Chinese Imperial government, but it won't work.
I gave them an Empire tier title e_xia and in it:

1032.1.1={
    holder=206650 # Yuanhao becomes emperor
    law = crown_authority_2
    law = succ_primogeniture
    law = centralization_3
    law = imperial_administration
    law = ze_administration_laws_2
    law = vice_royalty_2
    law = revoke_title_law_1
    government = chinese_imperial_government
    set_title_flag = uses_temple_names_by_script #Titles with this flag give their heirs a temple name via on_death event
    set_title_flag = pretender_chinese_empire #Blocks all grace interactions
    set_title_flag = china_name_Xia
}

But at the game start it still appears as a Monastic Feudal.

Are there any provinces that start out with Chinese Imperial government in any start date? Governments are mostly determined by capital holding type.

 

[Warial]

Are there any provinces that start out with Chinese Imperial government in any start date? Governments are mostly determined by capital holding type.

No. How to make it so? I don't see any government = xxx in province history files and there are multiple government types valid for castles.

 

[richvh]

Titles will take the first valid government found. You have to give something to Xia that is not available to other provinces, and edit the government files so titles that don't have that unique item in their capital can't become Chinese Imperial, and ones that do can.

 

[selteur]

There are ADD_BLOODLINE_MEMBER_EFFECT, REMOVE_FROM_BLOODLINE_EFFECT, REMOVE_BLOODLINE_MEMBER_EFFECT, and ADD_TO_BLOODLINE_EFFECT localizations, which would be totally useless if the only place they could be used was character history. Vanilla scripts don't currently use those effects, but they are available.

Also the create_bloodline effect creates the bloodline *and* adds the scoped character to it.

Yes, But we can't add a bloodline to a character and can't scopes characters who have a bloodline wich they not created...

 

[Nendur]

Has anyone have the problem of feudal and republic (both regular and merchant) rulers below empire and kingdom tier wearing feudal empire and kingdom headgear and clothing when updating your mods to patch 3.0? Which files do I need to add or edit to correct the problem?

interface/portrait_properties selects the rank of clothing, it's likely a conflict in there.

 

[Nendur]

Is there a way to add additional holding pictures. Like for example with HF we got new holding pictures for greek culture, is there a way to mod more holding pictures in. I have gone through the vanilla files and while I could find where the holdings are loaded from the files in the gfx files I was unable to find where they get applied to the appropriate culture/graphical culture.

You can add more holding pictures. Load them similar to the ones in province.gfx and they will be used if they have the same naming scheme with the right graphical culture in the name.