I like that idea. I'm not very experienced with character interactions. Potential issues I see are
idk but I'd imagine a lot of age related things are hard-coded. (ie - unable to change)
No, it would be the same interaction. What would happen is it would check the faith of each character when they take the interaction, if they were of your modded faith they would also have to be the head of faith to allow the interaction, if they were not of your modded faith then it would be ignored.
OR = {
NOT = {
has_faith = faith:MODDED_FAITH
}
AND = {
has_faith = faith:MODDED_FAITH
is_head_of_faith = yes
}
}make_concubine_interaction in common\character_interactions\00_marriage_interactions.txt and the is_shown section starting at line 1763 where the allowed_concubines = yes test is done, that's were you insert your new code as an additional test on whether the character can use the take concubine interaction:#Vanilla code
is_shown = {
scope:actor = {
allowed_concubines = yes
is_adult = yes
}
scope:recipient = {
OR = {
is_courtier_of = scope:actor
is_imprisoned_by = scope:actor
}
can_become_concubine_of_character_trigger = { CHARACTER = scope:actor }
}
}#Modded code
is_shown = {
scope:actor = {
allowed_concubines = yes
is_adult = yes
#Insert modded code here so the additional test applies to the actor taking the interaction action
OR = {
NOT = {
has_faith = faith:MODDED_FAITH
}
AND = {
has_faith = faith:MODDED_FAITH
is_head_of_faith = yes
}
}
}
scope:recipient = {
OR = {
is_courtier_of = scope:actor
is_imprisoned_by = scope:actor
}
can_become_concubine_of_character_trigger = { CHARACTER = scope:actor }
}
}allowed_concubines = yes test is used to limit concubine interactions and actions. There's three in common\character_interactions\00_marriage_interactions.txt at lines 1765, 1943 and 2068; and two in common\important_actions\00_marriage_actions.txt at lines 241 and 292.common\scripted_modifiers\00_elective_successions_scripted_modifiers.txt at line 1070 as your changes don't really affect how that modifier would operate.
okay thank you, I appreciate your help. Can I copy the file for the mod and then make changes or would I need to change the actual game file?
See
common\scripted_triggers\00_marriage_triggers.txt for the marriage triggers, but for consanguinity checks they then refer to common\scripted_triggers\00_religious_triggers.txt and faith_allows_marriage_consanguinity_trigger at line 167 which refers on to relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger on line 115.relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger = {
OR = {
#doctrine_consanguinity_restricted; absolutely no family business
AND = {
$FAITH$ = { has_doctrine = doctrine_consanguinity_restricted }
is_close_or_extended_family_of = $CHARACTER$ #[parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, cousins, uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces]
}
#doctrine_consanguinity_cousins; the only acceptable incest is with your cousin
AND = {
$FAITH$ = { has_doctrine = doctrine_consanguinity_cousins }
OR = {
is_close_family_of = $CHARACTER$ #[parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren]
is_uncle_or_aunt_of = $CHARACTER$
is_nibling_of = $CHARACTER$
}
}
#doctrine_consanguinity_aunt_nephew_and_uncle_niece; extended family is ok
AND = {
$FAITH$ = { has_doctrine = doctrine_consanguinity_aunt_nephew_and_uncle_niece }
is_close_family_of = $CHARACTER$
}
#doctrine_consanguinity_unrestricted; all forms of incest is acceptable
}
}
is_ai = no.on_title_gain = { on_action = { on_title_gain_sussex }}
on_title_gain_sussex = {
trigger = {
is_ai = no
scope:title = title:d_sussex
}
effect = { < your effect > }
}Ideally, I wouldn't want them to be considered 'incestuous' if they were of the bloodline, but if they didn't have the trait, then they would be classed as incestuous.
If you add the has_trait checks to the relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger above then they won't be considered incestuous. That trigger is the check the game uses to define what is and is not incestuous, you can change the definitions there to be whatever you'd like, including any has_trait loopholes you want to add.
so that gets around the incestuous part, but how could I allow marriages (and take as concubine action) between the royal blood family members? Because without the Unrestricted Marriage doctrine, the faith laws wouldn't allow it?
That
relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger check is how the game defines what is incestuous for all purposes, including marriage. See the chain of triggers referring back to relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger in common\scripted_triggers\00_religious_triggers.txt and common\scripted_triggers\00_marriage_triggers.txt. You change it in relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger you change it for all purposes.
okay, I understand. I was just worried that without the Unrestricted marriage doctrine, the options in the interface wouldn't show. So if I tried to add a family member as a concubine for example, the option wouldn't display. I'm still getting used to the interactions side of modding
I guess by adding the traits rules, it makes the characters with it exempt from the doctrine laws, which is exactly what I want.
Nw.okay, I understand. I was just worried that without the Unrestricted marriage doctrine, the options in the interface wouldn't show. So if I tried to add a family member as a concubine for example, the option wouldn't display. I'm still getting used to the interactions side of modding
Thank you for all your help, I appreciate it greatly.
relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger is easier because all the incest triggers everywhere in the code refer back to it, so if you change it there you change it everywhere. But the allowed_concubines = yes isn't a trigger you can mod, it's hardcoded, hence why you have to go to all five or six places in the code where the allowed_concubines = yes is used and add your modded code alongside of it to modify it.
Yes but be careful about which character you are checking, I think you want both characters, not just one, to have the traits?
hmm, I didn't think about that. So how would I go about checking that both characters have the traits? they would only have 1 or 2 of the traits, but only having 1 of the traits would be needed, but still okay if they had 2.
or for every entry I find, including things like
*edit - I guess that last one is just in case one of the characters has a different faith.
No they all refer back to that
relation_with_character_is_incestuous_in_faith_trigger in common\scripted_triggers\00_religious_triggers.txt, change it in that one place and it changes everywhere.$CHARACTER$ will be the scope of the second character for has_trait checks.
One single AND needs to include both OR blocks, and because it's a NOT AND you can simplify it into the first NOT, but making it a NAND:
NAND = {
$CHARACTER$ = {
OR = {
has_trait = trait1
has_trait = trait2
has_trait = trait3
}
}
OR = {
has_trait = trait1
has_trait = trait2
has_trait = trait3
}
}