[Modding] Making Manichean Religion a Catholic Heresy; Help Needed

Almainyny · Aug 22, 2015

Hello. I'm trying to make the Manichean religion into a Catholic heresy. Below is the code for how I've got this set up.

Code:

manichean = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.7 0.7 0.4 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 67
        heresy_icon = 6

        crusade_name = GREAT_PURIFICATION
        scripture_name = THE_EVANGELION
        priest_title = PRESBYTERS
        piety_name = KARMA
     
        high_god_name = GOD_ZURVAN
     
        god_names = {
            GOD_ZURVAN GOD_OHRMAZD PROPHET_MANI RADIANT_JESUS PROPHET_ENOCH PHOPHET_SHEM PROPHET_ABRAHAM PROPHET_ZOROASTER PROPHET_BUDDHA GREAT_BAN GOD_MITHRAS MAITREYA PROPHET_SETH PROPHET_NOAH
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            JEHOVAH AHRIMAN SATAN LUCIFER
        }
        unit_home_modifier = {
            land_morale = 0.3
            light_infantry_defensive = 0.3
            heavy_infantry_defensive = 0.3
            pikemen_defensive = 0.3
            light_cavalry_defensive = 0.3
            knights_defensive = 0.3
            archers_defensive = 0.3
            horse_archers_defensive = 0.3 
            camel_cavalry_DEFENSIVE = 0.3
            war_elephants_DEFENSIVE = 0.3
            key = "DEF_RELIGION_HOME_TERRITORY"
        }
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        can_grant_divorce = yes
        can_call_crusade = yes
        can_grant_invasion_cb = invasion
        religious_clothing_head = 5
        religious_clothing_priest = 5
        intermarry = muslim
        intermarry = christian
        intermarry = pagan_group
        intermarry = jewish_group
        intermarry = indian_group
    }

Now, in theory, the only things that should matter are that the parent religion is Catholic, and that the Mandaean heresy (which is a Manichean heresy) either is not a heresy or doesn't exist at all (in this case, I deleted the whole Mandaean section from the code). However, when I load up an existing save or a new one, Manichean is seemingly its own religion under the Christian branch of religions. If anyone can help me solve this problem, I'd appreciate it.

(I'm mainly trying to make it so that I can make Manichean replace Catholicism as the orthodox faith, which would make Catholicism a heresy).

BrightHelix · Aug 22, 2015

I think that "parent = catholic" line is too high up, in fact, it looks like a lot of things for mixed up in order. It should go

Code:

graphical_culture

icon
heresy_icon

color
parent

see if that helps

Almainyny · Aug 22, 2015

Herpderpcow said:
I think that "parent = catholic" line is too high up, in fact, it looks like a lot of things for mixed up in order. It should go

Code:

graphical_culture icon heresy_icon color parent

see if that helps

I don't think that's it. All of the other heresies have that same layout. Example:

Code:

cathar = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.5 0.5 0.9 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 66
        heresy_icon = 6
        crusade_name = CRUSADE
        scripture_name = THE_BIBLE
        priest_title = PRIEST

        god_names = {
            GOD_GOD GOD_THE_LORD GOD_JESUS GOD_THE_BLESSED_VIRGIN
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            SATAN LUCIFER THE_DEVIL
        }
        character_modifier = {
            fertility = -0.25
        }
        unit_modifier = {       
            garrison_size = -0.2
            levy_size = -0.2
            land_morale = 0.3
           
            key = "DEF_RELIGION"
        }
        can_call_crusade = yes
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        can_retire_to_monastery = no
        female_temple_holders = yes
        can_grant_divorce = yes
        feminist = yes      # Nullifies the negative opinion modifier that vassals normally get if ruler is female or has female heir
        priests_can_inherit = no       
        religious_clothing_head = 0
        religious_clothing_priest = 1
        aggression = 0.6
    }

    fraticelli = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.7 0.7 0.4 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 1
        heresy_icon = 6
        crusade_name = CRUSADE
        scripture_name = THE_BIBLE
        priest_title = PRIEST

        god_names = {
            GOD_GOD GOD_THE_LORD GOD_JESUS GOD_THE_BLESSED_VIRGIN
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            SATAN LUCIFER THE_DEVIL
        }
        character_modifier = {
            learning = 1
            stewardship = -1
        }
       
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        investiture = yes
        can_have_antipopes = yes
        can_excommunicate = yes
        can_grant_divorce = yes
        can_grant_invasion_cb = invasion
        can_grant_claim = yes
        can_call_crusade = yes
        can_retire_to_monastery = yes
        priests_can_inherit = no
        religious_clothing_head = 0
        religious_clothing_priest = 1
    }

    waldensian = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.4 0.4 0.7 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 64
        heresy_icon = 6
        crusade_name = CRUSADE
        scripture_name = THE_BIBLE
        priest_title = PRIEST

        god_names = {
            GOD_GOD GOD_THE_LORD GOD_JESUS GOD_THE_BLESSED_VIRGIN
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            SATAN LUCIFER THE_DEVIL
        }
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        can_retire_to_monastery = yes
        priests_can_inherit = yes
        priests_can_marry = yes
        character_modifier = {
            stewardship = 1
        }
        unit_home_modifier = {
            garrison_size = 0.5       
            key = "DEF_RELIGION_HOME_TERRITORY"
        }
       
        religious_clothing_head = 0
        religious_clothing_priest = 1
    }

    lollard = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.5 0.8 0.8 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 65
        heresy_icon = 6
        crusade_name = CRUSADE
        scripture_name = THE_BIBLE
        priest_title = PRIEST

        god_names = {
            GOD_GOD GOD_THE_LORD GOD_JESUS GOD_THE_BLESSED_VIRGIN
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            SATAN LUCIFER THE_DEVIL
        }
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        can_retire_to_monastery = yes
        priests_can_marry = yes
        priests_can_inherit = no
        aggression = 0.6 # AI aggression factor
        religious_clothing_head = 0
        religious_clothing_priest = 1
    }

    adoptionist = {
        parent = catholic
        color = { 0.75 0.7 0.55 }
        graphical_culture = westerngfx
        icon = 1
        heresy_icon = 6
        crusade_name = CRUSADE
        scripture_name = THE_BIBLE
        priest_title = PRIEST

        god_names = {
            GOD_GOD GOD_THE_LORD GOD_JESUS
        }
        evil_god_names = {
            SATAN LUCIFER THE_DEVIL
        }
        allow_rivermovement = yes
        can_retire_to_monastery = yes
        priests_can_inherit = no
        religious_clothing_head = 0
        religious_clothing_priest = 1
    }

All of the ones above work just fine, but Manichean, which is in the same layout, religion group and is defined after Catholic, not before, does not.

Careful Plum · Aug 22, 2015

Did you move it into the christian group?

The order in which you define things doesn't matter, BTW.

Almainyny · Aug 22, 2015

It is. I'd show you it, but I've already rolled back my changes to try something else. For now, my solution of editting HRE events so that Manicheans can hold the title without it self-destructing and also being crowned by the Pope works, but it obviously doesn't allow me to replace Catholicism with Manichean.

Friedrich von Deutschland · Aug 23, 2015

Nothing to add but I just wanted to ask: why? Seems like quite a random change.

Almainyny · Aug 23, 2015

Betrix5068 said:
Nothing to add but I just wanted to ask: why? Seems like quite a random change.

It's mostly for my own sake. I want to make Manichean shut out Catholicism (turn Catholicism into a heresy) and create an HRE that can exist while its' ruler is Manichean. I would play that up until the game's scheduled end time, then transfer into EU4 (with the religion being ported over as well, similar to how some of the other religions from CKII Plus can be transferred over). It's just a fun sort of goal for me, but I'm having trouble with getting the technical side down.

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