Make sure you've updated CKII to 1.091, which adds the is_holy_war token. Looks to me like you're using 1.09.
[MOD] Vanilla Immersion, Events, and Traits - A Modular Flavor and Tweak Mod
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While I was making a few modifications of my own I noticed that the trait files in both the core mod and the traits mod conflict and there are major differences between them. I don't know if that was intended or not. I also found a few other files that conflicted, but those were either identical to one another or set to override.
I also have a very odd bug that I haven't been able to identify the cause of. I can't use quicksave while playing as the leader of estonia at the 1066 start. I tried going around to a few other rulers and couldn't duplicate the bug anywhere else. To be honest, I'm not even 100% sure if it's related to this mod. This is the first mod that I've played with while also trying to play as a pagan ruler.
Btw, I was using only the vanilla mods. So VIET Core, Event for Immersion, Immersion, Defines, and Traits.
I also have a very odd bug that I haven't been able to identify the cause of. I can't use quicksave while playing as the leader of estonia at the 1066 start. I tried going around to a few other rulers and couldn't duplicate the bug anywhere else. To be honest, I'm not even 100% sure if it's related to this mod. This is the first mod that I've played with while also trying to play as a pagan ruler.
Btw, I was using only the vanilla mods. So VIET Core, Event for Immersion, Immersion, Defines, and Traits.
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Thank you for that earlier event list. I was able to work out why I couldn't get that Holy War CB.
On a related note, have you considered that instead of completely preventing Merchant Republics having the Holy War CB, have you instead considered just making it a very difficult? What I mean is that if the ruler was an extraordinary combination of traits which would make them want to Holy War. Like three or four traits are needed and none of the bad ones. A mix of both the Republic's desire for profits and a fervor for their religion.
In a few situations, Merchant Republics have engaged in Holy Wars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_republics#Allied_against_Arabs
I was thinking something like <zealous, ambitious, greedy and/or proud and/or brave> and no <content, craven, charitable, humble, slothful>
Thank you for that earlier event list. I was able to work out why I couldn't get that Holy War CB.
On a related note, have you considered that instead of completely preventing Merchant Republics having the Holy War CB, have you instead considered just making it a very difficult? What I mean is that if the ruler was an extraordinary combination of traits which would make them want to Holy War. Like three or four traits are needed and none of the bad ones. A mix of both the Republic's desire for profits and a fervor for their religion.
In a few situations, Merchant Republics have engaged in Holy Wars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_republics#Allied_against_Arabs
I was thinking something like <zealous, ambitious, greedy and/or proud and/or brave> and no <content, craven, charitable, humble, slothful>
Hi,
when I try to load a savegame it keeps on crashing all the time saying that ck2.exe does not work - have Balance and this mod...anyone knowing what?
when I try to load a savegame it keeps on crashing all the time saying that ck2.exe does not work - have Balance and this mod...anyone knowing what?
Announcement/Contest/Shameless Attempt at Self-Promotion:
The VIET thread has just reached 50 pages in about two months, which is twice as fast as PB (4 months) and sort-of-not-really almost as fast as CK2+ (1.5 months). Which obviously means VIET is better than either mods. Just kidding.
Seriously, though, because I'm in a lulzy mode, I've decided to hold a minor little competition of sorts. Simply, whoever posts the 1000th post in the VIET thread (the number you see in the upper right hand corner of a post) gets a little prize, nothing much - you can make your own character (or whatever sort of custom character - doesn't have to be you, can be characters from your favorite TV series or whatever (I sometimes sort of do that for easter eggs)) which I'll put as an easter egg ruler of any barony (castle, city, or temple) that is unoccupied in the 1066 start. i.e., you can choose the traits, dynasty name, etc. as if you were making your own character. The only restriction is that it has to make relative cultural sense (so no "Jarl Balgruuf Haroldson Dragonslayer, Wali of Cairo" or "Baroness Sakura Muromachi of Timbuktu", but "Mayor Cosimo Medici" of a city in southern France would be fine).
Why am I doing this? Is it because I'm generous? Is it because I'm insane? Is it because I'm just attempting a silly advertising campaign for VIET? Or is it because I'm attempting another move for the gloriousmartial arts school of PB against the villainous schools of CK2+, Lux Invicta, and Prince and Thane that holy-crap-lord-preserves-us-modders-it-just-rose-from-the-dead-to-terrorize-us-into-submission (AGOT school doesn't count, they're in their own little world)? Who knows. But what I do know is that VIET is almost reaching it's 1000th post, and that I'm finding this entertaining.
The traits file in Core and Traits shouldn't conflict, but indeed it appears I've forgotten to update the Core module to the trait changes that were supposed to happen in 1.1.0-1.1.4 for whatever reason. Thanks for the tip, I'll have that fixed in the next version.
As for not being able to use quicksave I really have no idea what that's not working. You might want to see if there's anything in the error log (Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader kings II/logs/error.log) right after you try clicking on quicksave (and don't reload into CKII or else it'll clear out the error log if there's anything), but judging from how you describe I doubt it will appear there. If it's just a one-time thing or doesn't appear to happen regularly it might be difficult for me to pinpoint a possible cause (if at all). Otherwise, does it affect your ability to save normally?
I originally tried the traits-based restrictions for the Republics when I was attempting my first round of Republic nerfing (or, well, I already had them to begin with from earlier pre-1.09 versions of VIET), but that didn't work out given how eventually you'll get a number of Republics under a ruler/patricians who have the right traits and then it all goes downhill from there.
Another possibility would be to have seriously insane gold/prestige/piety and distance costs, but similarly to the above once a ruler meets those requirements it all goes downhill from there as they just snowball their way into world conquest.
The main issue is the Republic AI, which just seems to spam holy wars as a method of expansion in vanilla CKII. I'm not really sure how to go around that, to be honest.
At the least Republics can still join Crusades and all that for now, so to be honest I'm fine with that for now.
If jordarkelf's suggestion doesn't work, does the error log show anything? (located in Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings II/logs/error.log) It has to be from immediately after the crash (if you reoload it'll clear out the old error log, if there was anything in there)
The VIET thread has just reached 50 pages in about two months, which is twice as fast as PB (4 months) and sort-of-not-really almost as fast as CK2+ (1.5 months). Which obviously means VIET is better than either mods. Just kidding.
Seriously, though, because I'm in a lulzy mode, I've decided to hold a minor little competition of sorts. Simply, whoever posts the 1000th post in the VIET thread (the number you see in the upper right hand corner of a post) gets a little prize, nothing much - you can make your own character (or whatever sort of custom character - doesn't have to be you, can be characters from your favorite TV series or whatever (I sometimes sort of do that for easter eggs)) which I'll put as an easter egg ruler of any barony (castle, city, or temple) that is unoccupied in the 1066 start. i.e., you can choose the traits, dynasty name, etc. as if you were making your own character. The only restriction is that it has to make relative cultural sense (so no "Jarl Balgruuf Haroldson Dragonslayer, Wali of Cairo" or "Baroness Sakura Muromachi of Timbuktu", but "Mayor Cosimo Medici" of a city in southern France would be fine).
Why am I doing this? Is it because I'm generous? Is it because I'm insane? Is it because I'm just attempting a silly advertising campaign for VIET? Or is it because I'm attempting another move for the glorious
The traits file in Core and Traits shouldn't conflict, but indeed it appears I've forgotten to update the Core module to the trait changes that were supposed to happen in 1.1.0-1.1.4 for whatever reason. Thanks for the tip, I'll have that fixed in the next version.
As for not being able to use quicksave I really have no idea what that's not working. You might want to see if there's anything in the error log (Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader kings II/logs/error.log) right after you try clicking on quicksave (and don't reload into CKII or else it'll clear out the error log if there's anything), but judging from how you describe I doubt it will appear there. If it's just a one-time thing or doesn't appear to happen regularly it might be difficult for me to pinpoint a possible cause (if at all). Otherwise, does it affect your ability to save normally?
I originally tried the traits-based restrictions for the Republics when I was attempting my first round of Republic nerfing (or, well, I already had them to begin with from earlier pre-1.09 versions of VIET), but that didn't work out given how eventually you'll get a number of Republics under a ruler/patricians who have the right traits and then it all goes downhill from there.
Another possibility would be to have seriously insane gold/prestige/piety and distance costs, but similarly to the above once a ruler meets those requirements it all goes downhill from there as they just snowball their way into world conquest.
The main issue is the Republic AI, which just seems to spam holy wars as a method of expansion in vanilla CKII. I'm not really sure how to go around that, to be honest.
At the least Republics can still join Crusades and all that for now, so to be honest I'm fine with that for now.
If jordarkelf's suggestion doesn't work, does the error log show anything? (located in Documents/Paradox Interactive/Crusader Kings II/logs/error.log) It has to be from immediately after the crash (if you reoload it'll clear out the old error log, if there was anything in there)
Well, while that may be true, if you simply changed the Holy War CB for Republics from 5 years to something insane to ensure it is once a ruler occurance (10, or even 20 years?) and then also tied in the additional costs to the highest rank (a republic with duchies costs more then one without duchies), you could solve it. Keeping in mind while it is possible for a new ruler through elections so that every other ruler can do one Holy War CB unless they are under 35, in which case it costs half a thousand gold to elect them, seems OK.
As far as that goes, make Holy War a single country CB, combined with a decade long cooldown, and you'll give a method for republics to occassionaly use it if the right ruler, but make it very costly to aim for it.
Remember you NEED at least 3 traits and more like 4, while avoiding at least 4 traits. Compared to PB, the traits needed are hard even compared to their harshest checks for their Holy wars. Even in a Republic, the odds of getting a ruler with ambitious, zealous, greedy, and maybe proud while avoiding the anti war traits is unlikely. Make it a 20 year CB and single county, and then if the player decides spending 400 gold on essentially one county per generation is acceptable, then I don't see how republics can abuse it.
Again, it is meant to be rare enough it is meant to almost be an Easter egg, so through natural play it may occur twice per game for a Republic, or maybe twice a century, max, if you make the significant finical cost to take every advantage of it.
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Thjat is wht is showed in the error log - every single savegame crshes - but there were also a litte bit too many vassal uprisings - they all like me but rise up 4 times after each other - whst is this????
I play as house Godwin - defeated the coward invaders!!!
Very strange is also it say I do not have ruler desing package - but i do have it!
thnaks for your help!
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Thjat is wht is showed in the error log - every single savegame crshes - but there were also a litte bit too many vassal uprisings - they all like me but rise up 4 times after each other - whst is this????
I play as house Godwin - defeated the coward invaders!!!
Very strange is also it say I do not have ruler desing package - but i do have it!
thnaks for your help!
If your dynasty name contains any accented characters you can't use quicksave (because the game uses the dynasty name to create/open the folder for quicksaves, and those characters are illegal in Windows filenames.) Vanilla problem.
Have you applied the 4GB fix? Just about every mod needs it.
You didn't answer before.
Yes. I had that problem when I was using an outdated version of PB for the current CK2 version, are you up to date?
Just downloaded it - very weired - only happens when loading a game and crashes when I resign - strating a new game works...it is sad - I really like the mod...
Versions all up to date use all VIET Modules and Project Balance - I verified the steam version also - not trouble there...
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