[MOD] Vanilla Immersion, Events, and Traits - A Modular Flavor and Tweak Mod

[jordarkelf]

I'm in favour of giving Scotland Tanist law. However Celtic Scotland did not exactly use that system.

As of the rise of the House of MacAipin, the Scots used a system where the crown alternated between two branches. This cannot be accurately simulated by any of the existing inheritance laws.
Tanistry mostly fits, but it'll be more likely to pick uncles of the existing king because in practice it tends to work like Seniority, which is not exactly right. Perhaps if combined with an event that forces the title tanist to be given to the 'other branch'?

Then again it doesn't perfectly fit Saxon England either, but it's the closest thing to a 'dynastic elective' law we have.

 

[OrdepNM]

I'm studying for my exams right now (And thus procrastinating on wikipedia).

Motion for everyone to ignore superskierpat. He'll thank us later

 

[TheChronoMaster]

Proposing nicknames: For western catholic or eastern orthodox rulers, monarchs with a far removed graphical (or actual) culture should be nicknamed according to that culture. For instance, "the Arab", "the Turk", "the Jew", "the Spaniard", etc.

 

[superskierpat]

I'm in favour of giving Scotland Tanist law. However Celtic Scotland did not exactly use that system.

As of the rise of the House of MacAipin, the Scots used a system where the crown alternated between two branches. This cannot be accurately simulated by any of the existing inheritance laws.
Tanistry mostly fits, but it'll be more likely to pick uncles of the existing king because in practice it tends to work like Seniority, which is not exactly right. Perhaps if combined with an event that forces the title tanist to be given to the 'other branch'?

Then again it doesn't perfectly fit Saxon England either, but it's the closest thing to a 'dynastic elective' law we have.

We can localise the tanist title by culture I believe, so all we need is to localise a saxon tanist to a Aetheling and welsh tanist to Edling. In the scottish case it shoudl also be agnatic, since

Motion for everyone to ignore superskierpat. He'll thank us later

Hey, thats actually nice xD

 

[jordarkelf]

In the scottish case it shoudl also be agnatic

Not just in the Scottish case. Countries using Tanistry should always have agnatic succession as well.
I posted a proposed change for that a while back.

 

[TheChronoMaster]

Incidentally, I think Agnatic-Cognatic may be bugged for Tanistry -- it seems to allow women to be nominated regardless.

 

[jordarkelf]

Incidentally, I think Agnatic-Cognatic may be bugged for Tanistry -- it seems to allow women to be nominated regardless.

In the vanilla implementation Tanistry is not coupled to Agnatic so I think that is WAD. It is 100% ahistorical, but if your gender laws allow for women, that's probably what you can expect.

 

[SBolshevik]

Could it be possible for Slavic provinces (and possibly rulers) to be more prone to conversion to Orthodoxy (because they recieved the Bible in a language they could understand, unlike most other peoples)?

 

[dace520]

Okay, new problem I'm playing a west African republic and doge isn't able to give out the griot minor title.
Even when adding the title to a griot in his court in the save it quickly reverts to lack of griot.
Is there something in the code I can change to get my griot to work?

 

[jordarkelf]

Okay, new problem I'm playing a west African republic and doge isn't able to give out the griot minor title.
Even when adding the title to a griot in his court in the save it quickly reverts to lack of griot.
Is there something in the code I can change to get my griot to work?

The Griot minor title is coded to only be available to feudal realms, so it won't be available for republics.
If you want to change this open \common\minor_titles\VIET_misc_minor.titles.txt and on line 323 disable is_feudal = yes by placing a hash mark (#) in front of it, or just delete the entire line.

 

[varnish]

Ok, I think I messed something up here:

Spoiler

 

[dace520]

I think this has already been mentioned but I think it bares mentioning again that the new coastal provinces in west Africa have no ports. Ships appear inland and are unable to move into the ocean. Do you think giving west African pagans river travel would fix the problem or is it completely fubar? I'm really appreciative for your prompt help on my other problems as well.

 

[Polskers]

Ok, I think I messed something up here:

Spoiler

What that is there is probably a bug with PB rather than with VIET. At least, I would assume so...

 

[NovaAres]

Could it be possible for Slavic provinces (and possibly rulers) to be more prone to conversion to Orthodoxy (because they recieved the Bible in a language they could understand, unlike most other peoples)?

They already get this. It's like a 3x chance to accept missionaries.

 

[makif130289]

Could you include a customization option that will make all Empire-level names same with Vanilla names ?

I mean;

France - Francia
Britain - Britannia
Spain - Hispania
Polish-Lithuanian Empire - Wendish Empire
Rus - Russia
Kalmar Union - Scandinavia

France and Rus name customizations are missing in the current build.

 

[OrdepNM]

Quick update on the next version of the converter: I'm still not very happy with my tech allocation mechanism for Central Asia/Persia/Middle East, so I'm not very sure when the release will be. While there's already a good system in place to keep someone from converting to catholicism in the middle of Persia and trolling everyone else with superior western tech, the altaics with their rambunctious nature and endless combinations of location+religion still need more work. Sorry for the delay, but hopefully you'll like what I've been cooking

 

[BasileusIX]

How's the progress on the PB+SWMH compatch?
When you release it, it will be like this:

 

[varnish]

What that is there is probably a bug with PB rather than with VIET. At least, I would assume so...

See, that's what I thought. I'm just not sure how, though, because I'm using the vanilla mods. I've never even touched PB. And I've checked and triple checked my mod folder to make sure.

It doesn't seem to have caused any other problems in my game, though. I think it's from the event where Rum forms?

 

[Ipsissimus]

I have formed Persia as Karen. When I try to create the Immortals for the first time the game crashes.

 

[milkan]

I have formed Persia as Karen. When I try to create the Immortals for the first time the game crashes.

The create vasht of Zhayedan decision are bugged. Restore the priesthood instead and that creates the proper Immortals.