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:eek: *Carmina Burana plays in background*
:p
:rofl:

Glad you pointed that out as I actually missed it, being at the very bottom of his post.

Nonetheless, a line has now been drawn. We all know where we stand; take sides and arm yourselves. (Incidentally, I will be using Greek as my champion; obviously I don't intend to dirty my own hands with the blood of my enemies).

VIET LIVES!!! *thrusts Excalibur into the air*
 

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The requirements for holy war are silly. I mean, if your character is ambitious, proud and zealous, yet slothful, he can't declare holy wars? ok.

The trait restrictions I had were inspired by Project Balance, but I wanted to make things simpler than some of PB's restrictions - you have the right trait or you don't, or you have a wrong trait or you don't. This was more necessary in earlier patches, in my opinion, because back then PI didn't add in the ability for players to actually see the requirements for a CB via a tooltip, so having a simpler system was more desirable as it's easier for players to pick up and understand. Anyhow now that you bring it up I guess I can tweak the trait requirements slightly so traits like slothful/craven/content or whatever will be ignored if the attacker has a number of other traits like ambitious and zealous as you suggest (though to be honest the way I see it, a person who is slothful won't bother to do anything no matter what they think about it anyways, but whatever).


:eek: *Carmina Burana plays in background*
:p

I was thinking Star Wars' cantina band would be more appropriate.


:rofl:

Glad you pointed that out as I actually missed it, being at the very bottom of his post.

Nonetheless, a line has now been drawn. We all know where we stand; take sides and arm yourselves. (Incidentally, I will be using Greek as my champion; obviously I don't intend to dirty my own hands with the blood of my enemies).

VIET LIVES!!! *thrusts Excalibur into the air*

Greeks? What about Berbers?
 

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Yay with 1.5's release I can resume my PB/VIET addiction again !
 

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Can you tell what exactly is wrong with my portraits cybrx?
 

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Ahoy, a few issues I've discovered in the PB version of VIET which may or may not have been reported already:

The dynasty number for the Exilarchs is probably wrong. It's 1000061250 currently, but it should be the ben David dynasty, which is 1000091581 in VIET.

There's some rogue "Sephardic" cultures in portrait_properties.txt, VIET_Jewish.txt, and VIET_Republic_titles.txt.

The PB+VIET version of the Jewish spawning events refer to a lot of titles which don't exist in PB, so stuff like Romaniotes mostly spawning in Greece isn't going to function properly. (To be fair, PB has a bunch of issues at present with SoA events, due to how many of them use specific titles as triggers.)

VIETmisc.205, VIETmisc.210, and VIETmisc.215 all seem to be missing localization for the option to refuse.

In other news, looks like some fun stuff. Can't wait to dig into some of these new religious and trait icons!
 

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Ahoy, a few issues I've discovered in the PB version of VIET which may or may not have been reported already:

The dynasty number for the Exilarchs is probably wrong. It's 1000061250 currently, but it should be the ben David dynasty, which is 1000091581 in VIET.

There's some rogue "Sephardic" cultures in portrait_properties.txt, VIET_Jewish.txt, and VIET_Republic_titles.txt.

The PB+VIET version of the Jewish spawning events refer to a lot of titles which don't exist in PB, so stuff like Romaniotes mostly spawning in Greece isn't going to function properly. (To be fair, PB has a bunch of issues at present with SoA events, due to how many of them use specific titles as triggers.)

VIETmisc.205, VIETmisc.210, and VIETmisc.215 all seem to be missing localization for the option to refuse.

In other news, looks like some fun stuff. Can't wait to dig into some of these new religious and trait icons!

The dynasty is semi-WAD, I took it from Frostschaden, I don't think the actual dynasty name's was "ben David" or "ben Arak" or anything (if there was a dynasty name), although this does remind me to change the dynasty of one of the Exilarchies so they don't end up inheriting each other. For the Jewish courtier stuff it doesn't matter if the titles don't exist, the engine will ignore them; but I'll tweak the events to account for PB's titles, and I've made a note of the other stuff

Yeah, I tried the frame number change and it was already correct.

I haven't been able to reproduce the issue in both VIET and PB+VIET, sadly. :/

Are you by chance using any other portrait mods or your own modifications to such?

What about giving North Africans some ships at the start date... you know they conquered sicily after all.

The 867 start, right? I guess I could do that. I'm not too concerned about balance at that start date since it's pretty wild anyways.
 

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Getting two errors while playing as Karen (Zoro). One is a major one causing a CTD very quickly while the other is basically annoying.

1. As soon as I enact the decision to Reorganize the first vasht of Zhayedan using the intrigue tab, a holy order having 0 troops is formed. Note this is not the holy order which forms automatically after you reform the Zoroastrian Church (The Immortals) but just the one for the holy order itself. Thereafter within a month or less the game will crash to desktop.

View attachment 95581
View attachment 95583

2. For both Feast and Great Hunt, the initial dialog box has no portrait. Its just empty. Vanilla CK2 doesn't have the same problem. I have all the portraits and DLCs by the way.

View attachment 95582

Oh and with regards to mods, they are PB v3.3.3, VIET 1.5.0, CK2 Tooltip Mod and Keyboard Shortcuts.

Tried a new game where I did not restore the Zoroastrian Head of Religion and just tried the reorganize first vasht of Zhayedan, still crashing. For some weird reason the holy order generates with exactly 0 troops. I am thinking maybe the changes in holy order that patch 2.0 implemented might be causing the crash. Going to try to use console to try organizing the Second Vasht and see if that one works properly or not.
 

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Tried a new game where I did not restore the Zoroastrian Head of Religion and just tried the reorganize first vasht of Zhayedan, still crashing. For some weird reason the holy order generates with exactly 0 troops. I am thinking maybe the changes in holy order that patch 2.0 implemented might be causing the crash. Going to try to use console to try organizing the Second Vasht and see if that one works properly or not.

They're not supposed to be formable because I was supposed to remove them (since they've been effectively superceded by vanilla's Immortals, since the Zhayedan are the immortals), but while I did remove them from the part of the code that deals with the landed title I forgot to remove the decision to form them which is probably causing the crash.
 

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They're not supposed to be formable because I was supposed to remove them (since they've been effectively superceded by vanilla's Immortals, since the Zhayedan are the immortals), but while I did remove them from the part of the code that deals with the landed title I forgot to remove the decision to form them which is probably causing the crash.

Ah so that's what it was. And here I thought I would get three kickass holy orders to plague the muslims from Ireland to Cathay :D

Oh well the vanilla Immortal just kicked the Shia Caliphs butt so its still good.

However I am still getting the blank portrait boxes whenever I want to throw a Grand Feast or go out on a Grand Hunt. Not sure what is causing it.
 

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They're not supposed to be formable because I was supposed to remove them (since they've been effectively superceded by vanilla's Immortals, since the Zhayedan are the immortals), but while I did remove them from the part of the code that deals with the landed title I forgot to remove the decision to form them which is probably causing the crash.

Odd it seems that using a image hosting site like imgur makes the post require a mod to approve it first. Is that normal or only for people with low post count?

Oh and still not showing a portrait when holding great feast or great hunt.
 

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Odd it seems that using a image hosting site like imgur makes the post require a mod to approve it first. Is that normal or only for people with low post count?
It might be your low post count.
 

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Odd it seems that using a image hosting site like imgur makes the post require a mod to approve it first. Is that normal or only for people with low post count?

Yeah as Teutonic_Thrash said it's probably due to your low post count, though I'm not entirely knowledgeable on the relevant forum rules/regulations about that.

Oh and still not showing a portrait when holding great feast or great hunt.

I looked at your earlier screenshots and noticed you were running the PB version. I know PB changes the hunting decision/events, so I'd suggest bringing it up with Meneth, since VIET doesn't change the way PB handles the way hunting works nor does it change the hunting decision/events for that matter (short of minor adjustments to the prerequisites for hunts that aren't relevant to the issue you're having).
 
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