[MOD] Vanilla Immersion, Events, and Traits - A Modular Flavor and Tweak Mod

[bindie]

Thats actually vanilla, the culture file has a dukes_are_kings line that makes every independent dukes of that culture appear to have a King title, whilst still mainting duke level mechanics.

So are you suggesting that either the following has happened;
1. Vanilla for some reason superceded In Novo Iure? and/or
2. Unlike the last game where there was a Kingdom of Norway, my duchy is independent, therefore there is a chance because of this I am a king not a Jarl because Ostedtland is independent

 

[bindie]

If this isn't a vanilla thing as superskietpat suggests, try running it with one of the mods turned off at a time and see whether one of them is causing your issue.

Do you know which files in your mod may have an effect on titles?

 

[cybrxkhan]

So are you suggesting that either the following has happened;
1. Vanilla for some reason superceded In Novo Iure? and/or
2. Unlike the last game where there was a Kingdom of Norway, my duchy is independent, therefore there is a chance because of this I am a king not a Jarl because Ostedtland is independent

Yes, it does appear to be 2 I believe.

If this isn't a vanilla thing as superskietpat suggests, try running it with one of the mods turned off at a time and see whether one of them is causing your issue.

Do you know which files in your mod may have an effect on titles?

This is affected by stuff in the cultures file (in the cultures folder (it's in mod/[whatever mod you're looking in/common/cultures)) and not the landed_titles. Thus I doubt VIET would be causing the issue, since the CKII+ compatible modules, Events and Traits, don't touch that. You may want to look at CKII+'s or In Novo Iure's stuff - you may also want to check whether In Novo Iure is compatible with CKII+, it does appear many of its changes would be incompatible with CKII+.

 

[bindie]

Yes, it does appear to be 2 I believe.



This is affected by stuff in the cultures file (in the cultures folder (it's in mod/[whatever mod you're looking in/common/cultures)) and not the landed_titles. Thus I doubt VIET would be causing the issue, since the CKII+ compatible modules, Events and Traits, don't touch that. You may want to look at CKII+'s or In Novo Iure's stuff - you may also want to check whether In Novo Iure is compatible with CKII+, it does appear many of its changes would be incompatible with CKII+.

Thankyou for the answer

SO niether VIET or CK2+ have Norse specific titles?

 

[cybrxkhan]

Thankyou for the answer

SO niether VIET or CK2+ have Norse specific titles?

VIET has some Norse title localizations as well as changes to whether dukes are called kings for certain cultures, but the latter is not included in the CK2+ compatible modules, and I haven't done any changes in the former that would affect whether 'dukes' are called kings for certain cultures.

CK2+ I don't know, as I'm not the one maintaining it, though I would cautiuosly assume it probably would be similar.

 

[superskierpat]

VIET has some Norse title localizations as well as changes to whether dukes are called kings for certain cultures, but the latter is not included in the CK2+ compatible modules, and I haven't done any changes in the former that would affect whether 'dukes' are called kings for certain cultures.

CK2+ I don't know, as I'm not the one maintaining it, though I would cautiuosly assume it probably would be similar.

High Kings and Consuls has a few, notably norse emperors being called High Kings (In norse)

 

[Poputt]

What portions of this mod are compatible with the converter? I assume events and traits wouldn't alter anything, what about the rest?

 

[cybrxkhan]

What portions of this mod are compatible with the converter? I assume events and traits wouldn't alter anything, what about the rest?

Only events and traits are compatible with the converter.

Someone has generously offered to get the converter working for the full PB+VIET and VIET suite, but that will depend on his time and effort, of course.

 

[bindie]

VIET has some Norse title localizations as well as changes to whether dukes are called kings for certain cultures, but the latter is not included in the CK2+ compatible modules, and I haven't done any changes in the former that would affect whether 'dukes' are called kings for certain cultures.

CK2+ I don't know, as I'm not the one maintaining it, though I would cautiuosly assume it probably would be similar.

So I suppose what you are saying is if I didn't play VIET with the CK2+ compatible modules but instead played VIET standalone I would actually see Norse specific localistions appear such as titles and etc?

 

[cybrxkhan]

So I suppose what you are saying is if I didn't play VIET with the CK2+ compatible modules but instead played VIET standalone I would actually see Norse specific localistions appear such as titles and etc?

Well, you may already see them with the VIET+CKII+, but the main issue here is whether dukes are called kings and not the actual title localizations per se, and the CK2+ compatible modules do not touch any of that. Though, standalone VIET does give that feature to several new cultures, but otherwise doesn't (and can't) change the way it works.

 

[User29]

Well, you may already see them with the VIET+CKII+, but the main issue here is whether dukes are called kings and not the actual title localizations per se, and the CK2+ compatible modules do not touch any of that. Though, standalone VIET does give that feature to several new cultures, but otherwise doesn't (and can't) change the way it works.

hey cybr, if you're bored go check out the new interfaith marriage mod and tinker around with it see if you want to add it in.

 

[G.Strategos]

hey cybr, if you're bored go check out the new interfaith marriage mod and tinker around with it see if you want to add it in.

Would be interesting for sure...

 

[cybrxkhan]

So I've successfully integrated MZ to the vanilla version. Now I got to start work on the PB version of 1.4.0 soon. Since my vacation's coming up really soon a number of (mostly minor) features will probably have to be cut and saved for 1.4.1.

@sainturl: I know you're quite interested in the Russia set-up, so here's a couple of screenshots for what I have for the kingdom and empire de jure setup (a few of the titles are missing localizations, of course, but they'll be added in).

Kingdoms - So four kingdoms in what was Rus - Kiev, Novgorod, Vladimir, Kiev


Empires



And as another little preview for everyone, Scotland is called "Pictland" at the 867 start, but an event will fire after ~900 changing it to Scotland. The player has the option of keeping it as Pictland.

hey cybr, if you're bored go check out the new interfaith marriage mod and tinker around with it see if you want to add it in.

I think it looks a tad bit too complicated for my tastes. For now, though, I'll be using the new interfaith code thingy PI added in the recent patch for a few pagan groups to see how it works out.

 

[superskierpat]

How hard was integrating MZ? I'm thinking about doing so myself..

 

[cybrxkhan]

How hard was integrating MZ? I'm thinking about doing so myself..

Not that hard, actually. There wasn't a lot of merging, at least for VIET, just mostly moving MZ's files over to VIET's.

 

[G.Strategos]

Hey Cybr.
The Pictish name would be a available only with the immersion module???
Cheers...

 

[cybrxkhan]

Hey Cybr.
The Pictish name would be a available only with the immersion module???
Cheers...

Yes, that's correct, the code for that can only really be done in Immersion.

 

[G.Strategos]

Yes, that's correct, the code for that can only really be done in Immersion.

So can't be used with PB-SWMH without issues???

 

[cybrxkhan]

So can't be used with PB-SWMH without issues???

It is however just a couple of changes to Scotland's title history along with one event, so the code can be transferred into PB+SWMH without too much hassle. Its just that it is most appropriate to have this sort of feature in Immersion rather than the other modules, so it has to be there. anyhow Just remind me when I release 1.4.0 and I'll point out which parts of the code you need to copy from VIET Immersion.

 

[G.Strategos]

It is however just a couple of changes to Scotland's title history along with one event, so the code can be transferred into PB+SWMH without too much hassle. Its just that it is most appropriate to have this sort of feature in Immersion rather than the other modules, so it has to be there. anyhow Just remind me when I release 1.4.0 and I'll point out which parts of the code you need to copy from VIET Immersion.

Perfect...Thanks mate...
I really like the extra flavor small changes could add you know...

Cheers...