Dev diary 52 - A Clash of Dragons
It is time to get the last non-patch note dev diary prior to 13.0.0 out of the way. As previously mentioned, it is about the bookmark we've added during the Jin-Song War, as well as some things related to this war and the things leading up to it.
It's obviously neither a clash of kings
nor a dance
of dragons.
The last days of Liao:
Though rather irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, before (Jurchen) Jin and Song clashed with Liao a Liao official by the name of Gao Yongchang had the "brilliant" idea to proclaim himself the emperor of Yuan (no, not
that one). His ill-fated rebellion ended with his realm being conquered by (Jurchen) Jin and his death around the same time (the exact date is unclear). It is very unlikely things will go much better in Tianxia (barring console usage or anything similar), particularly as he doesn't have any great marriage prospects, but he's playable if you want to give it a try.
Though his stats aren't fixed, in this particular instance he started with about a sixth of the troops of (Jurchen) Jin. Good luck, have fun.
Several years after this series of events, the Alliance Conducted at Sea between (Jurchen) Jin and Song was negotiated, and the two of them attacked Liao (or, in the game, Liao's little tributary). Though the nomadic Liao will survive in Tianxia (since neither attacker is meant to take their vanilla land), chances are the war in question will still be a resounding victory for the allies, and (Jurchen) Jin will vassalize the land held by the tributary. Of course, there was a deal regarding the Sixteen Prefectures with Song that they might expect to remain unaltered...
When the war ends with a victory for the attackers, Song will get an event giving them three options: Ask for the Sixteen Prefectures in exchange for an NAP, ask for a straight up NAP, or just ignore both options (and perhaps consider a war declaration, if you think that's wise). If the ruler of Song is Huizong and he is controlled by the AI, he will always pick the first option, with anyone else picking an answer based on traits, giving (Jurchen) Jin the opportunity to respond.
Is this actually a reasonable demand for him to make?
If (Jurchen) Jin is ruled by Taizong and AI-controlled, they'll pick the middle option, while traits otherwise will come into play. Some further events will potentially fire in this case (you'll have to find out just what they say on your own), but the historical rulers will stick to the (roughly; the historical outcome was "Hand over some prefectures... and then have a war break out shortly thereafter anyway", which would be rather messy to try to handle) historical script, and war will be declared if both stick to it.
(Jurchen) Jin will also get to respond to the straight up NAP offer, which they're more likely to accept, and will be notified if Song decided to pick the third option.
Wars between (Jurchen) Jin and Song:
There are two historical wars between (Jurchen) Jin and Song that are relevant at this point (there are some others later on that have not been added at this time): One that starts in 1125 and one that starts in 1126.
The possible outcomes are as follows for the first war:
- If (Jurchen) Jin wins, they take all territory in China that's north/east of the Yellow River (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor) and Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin.
- If the war ends in a white peace, Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin. This is roughly how the war ended historically (there were some minor border adjustments, but it's much cleaner to have just the tributary).
- If Song wins, they take all territory held by (Jurchen) Jin in the China region (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor).
The second war is a bit messier.
If you start prior to the fall of Bianjing (1127.1.9), the outcomes are as follows:
- If (Jurchen) Jin wins, they take all territory in China that's north of the Yangtze (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor) and Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin. This is roughly what they wanted when they made their first peace offer.
- If the war ends in a white peace, Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin and the border is moved to the Yellow River (unlanding relatives on both sides as necessary).
- If Song wins, they take all territory held by (Jurchen) Jin in the China region (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor).
If you start after the fall of Bianjing, the outcomes are as follows:
- If (Jurchen) Jin wins, they take all territory in China that's north of the Yangtze (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor) and Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin. This is roughly what they wanted when they made their first peace offer.
- If the war ends in a white peace, Song becomes a tributary of (Jurchen) Jin and the border is moved to the Huai River (unlanding Song imperial relatives as necessary). This is the historical outcome.
- If Song wins, they take all territory held by (Jurchen) Jin in the China region (unlanding any dynasty members of the emperor).
Should either (Jurchen) Jin puppet emperor -- Zhang Bangchang of (Da) Chu or Liu Yu of (Da) Qi -- be around as puppets, any land that would have been taken by the Jurchen is instead given to the relevant puppet, while a Song victory also would destroy the puppet empire and put its lands under Song.
Puppets and related mechanics:
The (Jurchen) Jin puppets are around between the relevant historical dates and start as a special tributary of their overlord.
Zhang Bangchang is perhaps not the real Emperor of China despite possessing the former Song capital...
There are two special decisions relevant to the puppets, one for them and one for their overlord, inspired by how the two puppet regimes ended historically.
The puppet can choose to renounce their empire and become a vassal of China. This gives their former overlord claims on all of their titles and makes their former overlord consider them a traitor. This decision cannot be taken if Song currently is winning the war by 25 % or more, seeing as they'll have little reason to accept.
Maybe this whole thing was a mistake?
Meanwhile, assuming their warscore is above -25 % and that they've got 2k prestige, the (Jurchen) Jin emperor can inform the puppet emperor that their services are no longer required.
Perhaps it is time for direct rule from Zhongdu?
This gives the puppet emperor an ultimatum: Submit (resulting in them losing their empire title and becoming a vassal) or declare war to try to drive (Jurchen) Jin out of China (and also invalidating their war against Song, if that's still ongoing). It is doubtful that this will be an easy war to win, and losing would be bad, but maybe you can pull it off if you can get a good alliance with someone.
Should a puppet emperor die without a dynastic heir, their overlord will immediately step in and take all of their land, so that's another option for integration if you're unsure how much of a fight they could put up.
That's all for today. The patch notes for 13.0.0 will have to wait a few days as there's a lot to include. They'll be posted alongside a release date announcement.