- Jul 8, 2015
Sorry, didn't read the whole thing at first, ask for being a tester the proper way.
The (Later) Tang dynasty! Though not related by blood to the original Tang, the current ruler Li Congke was adopted into the family by Li Siyuan, who was adopted by Li Keyong, who got the Li surname from Emperor Yizong of Tang. That's clearly a valid claim to all of China!
However, when the Iron Century start takes place, he's got trouble with none other than...
Shi Jingtang, who has proclaimed himself Emperor of (Later) Jin. He's invading with the backing of Abaoji (Taizu) of Liao, and has promised to turn over the Sixteen Prefectures if he wins, which surely is the best idea ever!
Nice, the Later Tang dynasty added in Iron Century is woefully lacking. Looking forward to this!
How are you dealing with their Sha-t'o heritage? I notice that the characters themselves are Han but Congke's grandfather appears to have a different culture.
Also, how is adoption handled? Are you using real parents or adoptive parents? When attempting to fill in the gap of offmap_china for my own mod project, I went with the former while adding fictional descent with common ancestors (but avoiding placeholder characters) which, in hindsight, was probably a bad decision. Screenshot in spoiler for clarification.
xu zhigao claimed patrilineal descent from wu prince li ke, son of tang taizong. authenticity notwithstanding, maybe there could be an event for him or his dynasty to be viewed as legitimately a part of tang's li linage with sufficient power? for that matter, can he take over and establish southern tang through scripting?
Speaking of Iron Century, China is non existant at that start, is it just not done yet or is that a glitch?
The fact that China itself has no holder is as it should be, as 936 was in the middle of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms era and there wasn't a reasonably united China at the time. The lack of rulers in the region is due to the history files mostly predating the map rework (with new counties using old counties' history files as placeholders, which already had placeholder characters pretty much everywhere) and thus predating Iron Century's release by quite a while (I believe many of them haven't been touched since before the 2017 Open Alpha version, which was before I joined the team).
The above, plus the fact that we haven't really polished 769/867 and that those two dates have some known errors (for example, the Three Fanzhen of Hebei (which should be independent) and some nearby de facto independent "vassals" of China (unsure if they'll be fully independent or some form of tributary) don't exist at present), is why we're saying that we only support using the Stamford Bridge start as we're reasonably sure that start date is mostly correct (which means that the bug reports and feedback we get regarding things there is less likely to boil down to "Unfinished/WIP things need work!") and that the game won't crash if you start from it (we've not run observer/playtest games in the earlier start dates for quite a while (and we've not run any in the IC start unless you count launching it to do character searches/to check borders in areas that have been worked on/to use the console to see that the one war we've gotten around to adding works as it should), so we don't know if the mod is stable or not in those starts).
Getting Charlie, the Old Gods, and the Iron Century done enough that we are prepared to say that we support them is at the top of our priority list along with a few other things (fixing bugs, cleaning up/restructuring the character history files (just adding more characters in a haphazard manner is how the current mess happened in the first place), tweaking mechanics such as the Mandate of Heaven as necessary (I suspect it'll need some work to make various pretenders in IC have a Mandate rating that's not always Poor or Lost), and [Redacted, though it might have been mentioned in the past]). Some other things will occasionally be worked on/added in between the start dates and other high priority issues because -- quite frankly -- it gets a bit tedious to work on the history files all the time and sometimes there's not something on the priority list that can be worked on (e.g. if there are no known bugs we can't bugfix something).
There will likely be a dev diary later this week (probably Friday or Saturday) that'll give a somewhat detailed overview as to where we are when it comes to CM, tOG, IC, and Stamford Bridge (there are reasons to include this even though it is "done" to an extent). For now I'll just say that there's still a considerable amount of work that needs to be done.
Is Confucianism represented in this mod? And if so is it a religion? A society? ..Flavour text for Taoism?
Ah, ok, thanks. I'll make sure I focus on that then (as a side note, it's played well so far, I've even tried it with other mods just to see how well that would do and it seems to work well).
Hello guys, first you're doing a great work and I really look forward for the release of Tianxia!
I was curious about the Dev Diary 31, seeing Ming rulers with Han culture.
(1) Is this intentional considering that foreign rulers of whole China or part of China had to adopt at some points Chinese Han culture to rule.
(2) Or do you plan to make them Manchu with Han flavors in future dev of the mod?
My question also stands for Yuan Mongols rulers.