why orlais? why not free marchers? Beside the best fun happens in antiva
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[MOD] Thedas Kings - a Dragon Age total conversion.
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I happen to be the type who doesn't like many of the changes Inquisition added. But I like DA2 even less. Still, I loathe DA:I. I like some of the ideas, but many of them are lazy (Like Dorian's VERY SPESHUL STORY. Which contradicted existing lore on Tevinter opinions for sexuality). Too much elf wank. And turning the Kirkwall Circle example into the standard.>_< Of course the depiction of Orlais was less flat. You actually GO to Orlais in DA:I. As for Tevinter? Eh, I got more from their culture out of the world book than the game. Which denied me any chance of playing a Tevinter Mage. Would have been awesome to play a Tevinter Mage in Inquisition for one's player character.
I am also a staunch Imperium fan. Because I like my Byzzies. I just wish Byzzies weren't villains in everything.
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As for Tevinter? Eh, I got more from their culture out of the world book than the game. Which denied me any chance of playing a Tevinter Mage. Would have been awesome to play a Tevinter Mage in Inquisition for one's player character.
I am also a staunch Imperium fan. Because I like my Byzzies. I just wish Byzzies weren't villains in everything.
Next game, mate, you'll see. You'll get your chance to, uhm, overthrow them evul magisters :') Personally I think DA2 and DAI had much better worldbuilding than DAO. The first game was still too caught-up in the classic fantasy tropes and too localised, and spent a lot of its time going "hey look at that cool edgy thing we thought of". DA2 is where they start being more sure-footed about the peculiarities of their setting. DA2 wasn't a perfect game by any means, but its depiction of Kirkwall is part of what makes it my favourite. As for DAI, I think it gets a lot of interesting lore very right but also a lot of really awful stuff, like the continuing fandom-led elf wank, the ongoing demonisation of Orlais, the Chantry, Circles and templars, and combined that with a game setting so devoid of urgency or substance that it really falls through and comes off as generic. (I quite liked Dorian's arc myself, just not the fanon conclusions drawn from it and the unsubtly in-your-face way in which one particular codex entry abandoned all pretence of being in-universe.) You might argue that DAI better reflects 2013 Canada than medieval Europe, but of course fantasy authors are by no means obliged to retread historiography. The World of Thedas books are firmly in the DAI camp, in my opinion.
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I don't wanna overthrow the 'Evil' Magisters.:~( I wanna be a Magister. Because demonizing the Not!ERE is just awful.
DA2's villain was Kirkwall itself. This is not a joke.
Dragon Age: Origins is pretty much Old Bioware. It's why I prefer it.
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Implying that old Bioware was much better <_<
*random Black Isle Studios being better shout out hit & run*
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I didn't say that Old Bioware was better than Black Isle.
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TouchéI didn't say that Old Bioware was better than Black Isle.
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Note, I miss a lot of the older style RPGs. Old Bioware had a lot more Roleplaying elements. If that makes sense.Touché
Even if their romances induced more cringe than watching one's tone-deaf sibling participate in a talent show.
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Every noble play the game. Whether they call it that or not is irrelevant. And the rules are different depending on the nature of the culture. Fereldans, Freemarshers and Nevarrans seem more quick to act on anger than say Orlesians that remain calm with smiling faces in public. Dorians explain that Orlesian politics is like Tevinter, but with no slaves and less magic among the elite. Freemarschers and Antivans that essentially work in the same way as Orlais, but with a less refined social mask and more assassins and trade.
I happen to be the type who doesn't like many of the changes Inquisition added. But I like DA2 even less. Still, I loathe DA:I. I like some of the ideas, but many of them are lazy (Like Dorian's VERY SPESHUL STORY. Which contradicted existing lore on Tevinter opinions for sexuality). Too much elf wank. And turning the Kirkwall Circle example into the standard.>_< Of course the depiction of Orlais was less flat. You actually GO to Orlais in DA:I. As for Tevinter? Eh, I got more from their culture out of the world book than the game. Which denied me any chance of playing a Tevinter Mage. Would have been awesome to play a Tevinter Mage in Inquisition for one's player character.
I am also a staunch Imperium fan. Because I like my Byzzies. I just wish Byzzies weren't villains in everything.
Why not consider it an upgrade? Dorian's version is a firsthand experience. Maybe that's what the writers wanted to be lore? A lore can be wrong or subject to change. Kinda like the whole elf wanking which essentially says that there are no true elven culture left. So Dragon Age's elves are the romantization of the original story in the game. Like horned vikings. It's a major lore changer.
As a major opponent of mages I say lock them up! Having mages free is like a spawn of Trump people running around freely waiting to pop and doing something evil or harmful to others. Blood magick or no its unaccountable for and thus the very definition of dangerous. So in the next installment I'm looking forward to putting the Soporati in power in Tevinter if its possible.
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Not every change is a good change. I won't consider it an upgrade because I don't. And anyone who says it's because I'm an old fogie who played DA:O and can't let go? Is not right. I did DA:II first, got bored halfway through, played DA:O, was enraptured, played DA:II fully and cringed at Flemeth's redesign among many other things. And when a game dev flat out says that the reason a seemingly reasonable person (Orsino) goes crazy is because the end game needed more bosses? I tend to view their ideas on 'needed' changes with skepticism.
Treating the Dwarves like the redheaded step-children is uncool. Also? The blatant Blizzard ripoffs only made the setting less interesting for me.
Bioware: "We're never going to answer whether the Maker exists or not because it's about faith."
Bioware: *Proceeds to dismantle all evidence of Maker's existence.*
It was actually a bald elf and another bald elf (no relation) all along. Also , you know how the Dwarves are radically different from the other races because they don't dream , aren't connected to the Fade and can't use magic ? That was a bald elf too.
Darkspawn? Bald elf.
Archdemons? Bald elf.
Demons? Bald elf.
That old lady that talks too much? Bald elf.
So basically: news at eleven "local egghead ruins everything".
Also Dwarves were made by Titans.
Bioware: *Desperately tries to hide idea from Blizzard lawyers.*
And magic is related to the Titans in some way.
Blizzard: I CAN SMELL BLOOD.
Bioware: nuuuuuuuuu-
Humans are just tall fucking Dorfs. Fuck that idiocy.
So, you can see I just ignore the people who continue to have 'Liking Dorfs is like being a pedophile' as an opinion.
As for mage lockup? For fuck's sake. That's a symptom of the idiocy of the later games.
I think that Mages should be allowed to have more rights. Keep the phylacteries, and the Circles are schools where they have to graduate from to be recognized as legal mages. Also havens for them. And knowledge areas. Allows them to have their own lives, but also makes sure they can handle the power they have.
It's a happy middle, and means that if they end up going rogue or insane blood mage? Phylacteries are there to aid in putting them down, and local Templars are called in.
There also needs to be a tribunal of sorts to handle disputes. Giving a mage the chance to defend themselves in a court of Templars and Magi.
Also, might I mention that I absolutely loathe the Avvar?
They literally nullify the entire Mage-Templar debate by existing.
"There's this whole debate on the dangers of Mages versus their rights? Oh, we can exorcise Demons no problem!"
Then what was the fucking point of Dragon Age II?!
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Personally, the fact that you're advocating for more lockdowns rather than trying to find ways to not be oppressive just irks me.
Fuck, the Tevinter Imperium is at least not fucking sexist with regard to their Chantry.
Fuck, the Tevinter Imperium is at least not fucking sexist with regard to their Chantry.
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Someone got triggered. Which why I wrote it because it's a DA debate which doesn't belong to this discussion in the first place. ^^ DA's lore is so incomplete it's not comparable to GoT or LotR. So making a mod like this will probably be mostly references to the ingame events and guesswork.
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Would agree to this tenfold if the forum let me. This is the exact reason why I lost my enthusiasm for the DA universe after a while.
Anyway, best of lucks with continuing the mod's development! Let me know if you want to keep using this thread when you want the OP updated, or any other assistance.
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actually tevinter is really sexist considering they wont allow Females at all in divine's stand
Calling me 'triggered' as though I'm some tumblrina isn't really helping your point. ... I also think that GoT's lore is not even in the same thousand feet as the pinnacle the LotR rests at.
In the Mage-Templar debate? I'm a moderate. In favor of keeping the system, but also reforming the fuck out of it.
Dragon Age Race overview:
Dwarfs: No clue, really. Something about stone giants and the elves doing their usual shenanigans.
Qunari: Dragon people. Maybe. We really haven't put that much thought into it.
Humans: Tall dwarves.
Elves: Formerly a race of immortal demigods with super awesome floating cities and technology and stuff with so much awesome magic. Everything was awesome (except for the mass slavery and mage-gods that make Tevinter look morally righteous by comparison, but that's all water under the bridge) until the Veil disappeared and the Evanuris were put to sleep. But they still had an effect on future events due to shenanigans and Batman-level planning. Elves were then enslaved, but regained their culture when Andraste/Tyrrda Bright-Ax came and freed them (side-note, accompanied by Shartan, elven warlord and badass [this part is actually unironic]), after which they took their own country and promptly lost it again after getting stomped by Orlais. Now are a bunch of angsty teenagers who run around forests and range from "Suspicious but willing to do business" to "outright attack human settlements and caravans without provocation". But they're totally justified, because why look to the future when you can live in the past?!
Something of a side-effect and 'fuck you' to the Orlesian Chantry. Given the Orlesian Chantry outright refuses men in ANY position but the lowest.actually tevinter is really sexist considering they wont allow Females at all in divine's stand
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oh and chancelor is Lowest rank ?? theres ALOT of Men within orlesian's chantry's bishopric
Chancellor isn't really a religious title, per se.
I mean more along the lines of not having Revered Fathers. Or Male Grand Clerics.
This blew up again, awesome! I'm still up for making some trailers once progress goes far enough
Ugh, every time I hear longwinded complaining about DAI I am always introduced to new, interesting ways to be disagree and yet not be able to explain it in a post or anything
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