[MOD] The Prince and the Thane - 1.092 Only

[Sudaxe]

I'm probably not the only one who can't imagine playing CK2 without this mod.

 

[jordanjay29]

My ruler becomes more authoritative, and not my ward? That sounds like a typo!

Another typo, 'lady' should be capitalized to 'Lady'.

If anyone's interested, I started an AAR with this mod using The Isles. Should be interesting to see how far my family goes.

 

[Jaol]

Is it possible to have the Pope approve before you create a kingdom? Roger De Hauteville had his anti-pope crown him, historically, because the current pope disliked him.

Good idea. Is there a way to test if a character meets the conditions for creating a title? If so, you could add an allow condition for all titles, so that if you are Catholic you also need a certain flag/trait/modifer, say papal_approval. Once you meet the other conditions for creating the title, then you'd get a decision to seek Papal approval. Based on your level of relations with the head of your religion, proximity to the Papal State (Roger needed an antipope since the Popes did not like the idea of a Kingdom next door in Sicily), etc. the Pope would approve or not, setting the correct flag; you could even make it so the Pope will approve but only if you give him papal investiture, or some money.

 

[jordanjay29]

I've noticed some problems in civil wars, particularly with Depose Liege. If a Depose Liege war is going on, often it will cause counties or duchies to stay independent after the war is over, either those directly involved in the war or those involved in a parallel war against the previous liege.

 

[Kretson]

Is there a way to vassilize or become the Pope in Prince and the Thane?

 

[Bad_Haggis]

I've noticed some problems in civil wars, particularly with Depose Liege. If a Depose Liege war is going on, often it will cause counties or duchies to stay independent after the war is over, either those directly involved in the war or those involved in a parallel war against the previous liege.

Yeah, this happens with the ERE for me.

 

[Tarridus]

I don't know if this problem has been reported before, but I have a problem with the buildings. When I try to upgrade the existing building the building just won't be upgraded. For example, my "small Siege workshop" will not be upgraded to "large Siege workshop" even though I have paid and wait for the construction time.
This only happens in one building in a few county, and so far, I only encountered that problem in two county, one in Holland and one in Sicily

List where you found the errors and I'm sure Idib will look into it and fix the problem for the next version.

 

[Tarridus]

Is there a way to vassilize or become the Pope in Prince and the Thane?

While I haven't tried it in a while, I do believe you can make the pope a vassal of yours if you have the claim upon his lands. I married the Duchess of Toscana in one of my games and she had claim to the Archbishophric of Spoleto where when I helped her gain her claim, included the lands of Rome and Orvieto. As for becoming pope, I haven't tried to do that with this mod but the only time I've become pope was when I started out as Count of Orvieto and I had to 'Depose Liege' and when I won the ensuing war, then I took over as pope. But that was in Vanilla and I'm not sure if it's still possible in P&T.

Truthfully, I hated becoming pope in vanilla as you get a constant stream of notices of patrons who asked for Indulgences and constant requests for Excommunication and gifts.

 

[Bad_Haggis]

How do you become the pope? I imagine that would be quite difficult.

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

How do you become the pope? I imagine that would be quite difficult.

In Ck2 you cannot as far as I can tell. In Ck1 it was a bit easier, though still not simple. I often saw the Papacy become a hereditary title held secondary to another Kingly title.

 

[Tarridus]

You can become pope if you start out as the Count of Orvieto and you decide to "Depose Your Liege". If you win the war with the pope's forces, then your character automatically becomes pope.

Mind you, I managed this pre-1.06 and only using Vanilla CK2 and I didn't test it enough to see what happens when your pope dies lol

 

[Tarridus]

I must say that I'm eagerly awaiting the new version Idib! How about giving us another Dev Diary with a little insight into what you plan to add

 

[pablo4321]

I must say that I'm eagerly awaiting the new version Idib! How about giving us another Dev Diary with a little insight into what you plan to add

How about, before we ask him for all sorts of changes, add-ons and dev-diaries, we let Idib enjoy his vacation in peace for a little while? I mean, I'm just thinking that he probably deserves it.

 

[Aethlas]

But Idib has brought this all on himself, his crazy constant updating and refining has convinced us all that he's not a real person but some sort of mod making ai/robot that doesn't NEED to take a break

 

[ciosek]

Could someone tell me how to change a religion of my character(and realm too)? In CK+ mod i'm giving my heir educate to someone with different religion. In this mode it not work. I play as pagans and i want to change my religion to Christianity.

 

[kurandus]

Idib is GLaDOS!

 

[cbtendo]

I don't know if this problem has been reported before, but I have a problem with the buildings. When I try to upgrade the existing building the building just won't be upgraded. For example, my "small Siege workshop" will not be upgraded to "large Siege workshop" even though I have paid and wait for the construction time.
This only happens in one building in a few county, and so far, I only encountered that problem in two county, one in Holland and one in Sicily

List where you found the errors and I'm sure Idib will look into it and fix the problem for the next version.

Here's what i found so far:

Small military engineers workshop (stuck in stage 1) in
County of Palermo, barony of monreale (county capital)

Cattle pastures (stuck in stage 1) in
County of Holland, barony of vlaardingen (county capital)
County of Westfriesland, barony of Alkmar (county capital)

 

[Mervent]

It seems peasant revolts not working for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXbntFn4drw&feature=youtu.be

Just nothing happens, no rebel army, no any modifier at province

 

[Mervent]

Found error, tptt_better_rebels_events.txt line 75:
"has_province_modofier = brm_minor_revolt" must be "has_province_modifier = brm_minor_revolt"

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Is he using the Better Rebels mod?