[MOD] SWMH 2.0 Map, de jure and general history mod. For a superior CK2 experience

[theKing1988]

Are you planning to change the map projection? It is kinda horrible looking at the Caucasus now.

BTW, the proper term for someone of Al-Andalus is Andalusí, not Andaluz.

The Caucasus has always been horrible to look at map-wise (A Vanilla problem).

 

[Barón Rojo]

The Caucasus has always been horrible to look at map-wise (A Vanilla problem).

Yeah, it comes from the times of the first CK.

 

[Andrzej I]

Ya know, I'd love to see this mod with some of the laws and casus belli from Project Balance. The raid CB is rather nice.

 

[theKing1988]

Ya know, I'd love to see this mod with some of the laws and casus belli from Project Balance. The raid CB is rather nice.

The PB imperial reconqest mechanic will be introduced in the next version, so who knows, maybe Aasmul will be allowed to borrow other things from PB.

I know i'm a pain right now Aasmul, but i have got to ask. Is there any news on when Axl and you can get the new release ready?

 

[Aasmul]

The PB imperial reconqest mechanic will be introduced in the next version, so who knows, maybe Aasmul will be allowed to borrow other things from PB.

I know if a pain right now Aasmul, but i have got to ask. Is there any news on when Axl and you can get the new release ready?

We haven't both had enough spare time so we haven't been able to do the merge yet, we should both have time for it tomorrow so hopefully it can be ready then. All bugs ought to be dead already so hopefully it should be a simple job of just adding the Spanish things.

 

[Aasmul]

I wonder if SWMH will be compatible with republics DLC..

Another small suggestion for Northern Germany:

Province 261 : c_hamburg which is called "Stormarn" ingame could be renamed to "Hamburg" with the following barronies:

b_(hamburg)altstadt --> Temple (the Bishopric of Hamburg)
b_(hamburg)neustadt --> either City or Castle (the ducal part of hamburg) (partition of Hamburg happened around 1060)
b_bergedorf (mentioned as in the 12. century as "Bergerdorp")
b_harburg
b_altona
from the original you could use:
b_hachede
b_blankenese

All these Baronies are more or less part of nowadays Hamburg, exept hachede (today Geesthacht) but not Segeberg, Steinburg, Oldesloe und Buxtehude.

Im sorry for being nit-picking but i'm a bit of a local patriot


I also added german job titles (and corrected a small typo "dansih" instead of "danish") to jobs and minor titles.csv
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Thanks, Stormarn is correct though, the original version of the county(the one that the count of Schaumburg was handed when he also recived Holstein)included Hamburg. Hamburg could be seperated, but I will have to look how it balances with the rest of the area(Hamburg wasn't that big for the majority of the game), maybe an addition for when we update for the republics^^

It does seem a little weird, too, that Hamburg has no port on this map. Could we somehow make the Stormarn / Hamburg province coastal, given its prominence as a port city?

He could make the Elbe to a sea, until Hamburg. I had make this in my mod. Hamburg must be a coastal province.

Done for the next version

Are you planning to change the map projection?

Might happen someday, but the process would take many months, so for now we stick to the uglified mercator projection of vanilla. I would really love a propper projection though so it might be an option when the map is in a relativly complete state

It is kinda horrible looking at the Caucasus now.

That it is^^

 

[hansa_LP89]

Thanks, Stormarn is correct though, the original version of the county(the one that the count of Schaumburg was handed when he also recived Holstein)included Hamburg.

I understand what you mean, but then you name the count of Schauenburg (from 1485 onwards it was changed into Schaumburg).

Hamburg could be seperated, but I will have to look how it balances with the rest of the area(Hamburg wasn't that big for the majority of the game), maybe an addition for when we update for the republics^^

For me that would be perfect . Although the city wasn't very big - but quite important (in the Hanseatic League). We will see how the Hansa will be represented in the upcoming DLC... The problem with the size of Hamburg during the time-frame of CK2 is that core of Hamburg was only between Elbe and Alster but they acted as a free imperial city though they weren't. They faked the Freibrief which granted them city and harbour rights and acted as an free imperial city when their liege (Schauenburg or Danmark) wanted taxes from them and as a vassal of the aforementioned Lieges when the Kaiser needed their money. (Those Patricians... :happy

 

[MartMakkie]

But Flanders was de jure part of France in history...? Only a little part of Flanders was part of the HRE. The most part was vasall of the french crown. The red mark line be the border of de jure france in 1477.

Yes, but the frisians have, acording to some historians helt land in Flanders. The Burgundians, who started lobbying for that title did held Flanders.

Sorry for the late reply btw.

 

[Aasmul]

Sorry for the delay guys, the new version should be up soon(hopefully today)
in the meantime I got my new comp, so now I can at least show a few teasers of some of the new stuff


New coastlines for southen Sweden and the Baltic Islands

And a closeup of the new Mäleren(now the devs might actually be able to see where the PI headquarter ought to be )

Syrian Dessert revisited

Holyland duchies de jure

Kingdom of jerusalem nothern provinces

Kingdom of jerusalem southern provinces

 

[theKing1988]

Have you managed to keep a similar number of provinces in Mesopotamia, when expanding the syrian desert or did some of them get axed, a lot of the provinces were very oddly placed so i'm not sure how many you could keep when moving them to the right place.

And does my eyes decieve me or is the Nablus province named Naples?

 

[Aasmul]

Have you managed to keep a similar number of provinces in Mesopotamia, when expanding the syrian desert or did some of them get axed, a lot of the provinces were very oddly placed so i'm not sure how many you could keep when moving them to the right place.

All survived but relocated as close to where they belong as possible(a few has been reworked but a more encompassing overhaul will have to wait for a furture version), a couple got reused as oasis instead though.

 

[theKing1988]

Sounds great, just makes me even more excited about finally trying this out . That region was just so wrong with the vanilla setup.

 

[hansa_LP89]

And does my eyes decieve me or is the Nablus province named Naples?

I read the same. But it ain't that bad considering that both Naples and Nablus are derived from Neapolis .

Edit: Nablus was actually called Naples after being conquered by the Crusaders in the First Crusade.



The southern Levant now looks a lot better with the Negev Desert in it!

 

[theKing1988]

How many new duchies are you actually introducing Aasmul, as far as i can see there is Acre (2 counties) and then one north of Acre (possibly 2 counties as well) maybe you can elaborate?

 

[Aasmul]

Edit: Nablus was actually called Naples after being conquered by the Crusaders in the First Crusade.

Bingo

The southern Levant now looks a lot better with the Negev Desert in it!

Thanks^^

How many new duchies are you actually introducing Aasmul, as far as i can see there is Acre (2 counties) and then one north of Acre (possibly 2 counties as well) maybe you can elaborate?

Just Acre, I was a bit at loss with that one, but since it was the center of the kingdom after jerusalem fell it makes okay sense to have it(every other solution seemed to be worse).
So you got
Acre: Acre and Tyre
Jaffa-Ascalon: Jaffa, Ascalon, Ibelin and Darum
Galliee(principality): Tiberias, Sidon, Nazareth, Beirut and Toron
Jerusalem: Jerusalem, Caesarea, Naplès(Frankish^^) and St-Abraham
Oultrejourdain(should really be named as a barrony, but that might be pushing it:unsure: Kerak, Monreale and Elim

 

[hansa_LP89]

Bingo

I hope that will stop me from answering before looking something like Naples/Nablus up :blush:, i mean i found it by going to wikipedia (shame on me...)


BTW: I just realized that localized names for bishoprics and Prince-Bishoprics, e.g. Bistum /Fürstbistum in German don't show up ingame. They remain Bishopric of ...
The same goes for the localizations of court chaplain and the honorary titles

This is true for all localizations - not only the German translations.

 

[theKing1988]

Bingo

Thanks^^


Just Acre, I was a bit at loss with that one, but since it was the center of the kingdom after jerusalem fell it makes okay sense to have it(every other solution seemed to be worse).
So you got
Acre: Acre and Tyre
Jaffa-Ascalon: Jaffa, Ascalon, Ibelin and Darum
Galliee(principality): Tiberias, Sidon, Nazareth, Beirut and Toron
Jerusalem: Jerusalem, Caesarea, Naplès(Frankish^^) and St-Abraham
Oultrejourdain(should really be named as a barrony, but that might be pushing it:unsure: Kerak, Monreale and Elim

Oh, i was kind of confused by the fact that Galilee encircles Acre. By the way, doesn't that feel a bit wrong, wouldn't it be better to put Sidon and Beirut under Acre and have Galilee be the inland part instead.

 

[Ruwaard]

Great to see an upcoming update. Though truth be told I nly recently got my edited version of the mod up to date, including (some of)the extra duchy, kingdom (and empire) creation rules proposed by jordarkelf.

Will all the new 18 provinces be listed in the changelog? (PS in my edited version the stem duchies never were a problem)

 

[Misantropia]

hey, Great project hope it will be finished soon...

here are some general observations and some specific ideas about the valah lands

1. there are some provinces named north sea, sea of cannaries and such, probably you know about them
2. Pest and Maramoros (in Hungary) are switched

3. The two romanian voevodats are much too rich, I would delete at least one barony from each province. maybe add one in Transilvania , also Maramoros should be valach as well, as it was, along with the Fagaras county one of the last regions in Transilvania where the romanians enjoyed more political freedom, and the place of origin of the first moldavian vevods
4. The provinces of Galatz and Belograd are misplaced, Galaz is a town in the province of Barlad and Belograd is the slavic name for the fortress of Cetatea Alba (in romanian), so Barlad would be Barlad or Galaz (your choice, and Galaz would be Cetatea Alba, Chilia (a genovese fortress on the Danube) Belograd or Akkerman (the turkish translation), the probince of Belograd could be Thighina. Barlad ->Barlad Galaz -> Cetatea Alba Belograd -> Tighina

 

[cerapa]

Awesome mod. But like any self-respecting(read: overly nationalistic) person I took a look at the culture files for my country, Estonia.(culture is called tsuudi in the files)

Couldnt help but notice a few oddities. There is no equivalent to "of" in estonian, so "gada" is just straight up wrong, especially since there arent any non-foreign words that start with g, b, d, c or y. Similarly the name "Cake", while funny in english, does not actually exist.

There is some hilarity in the male names. Like Metsavana(old dude that lives in a forest), Järvevana(this one lives in a lake, both are actually decent for a druid sort of guy), Peremees(master, of the ownership kind), Pardiajaja(some sort of duck salesman or breeder, or possibly someone who keeps talking about ducks), Puuk(tick of the insectoid kind), Tont(ghost), Taevas(sky or heaven), Vanaisa(grandfather) and of course Jumal(god).

Women get some good ones too, like Haldjas(fairy), Luupainaja(nightmare, must have been some very annoyed parent), Tütred(daughters, which must be very confusing if she has sisters), Näkk(mermaid) and Murueit(a somewhat offensive term for a wife or old lady, who seems to be associated with grass)

My personal favourite however is Kaevukoll AKA well monster. I assume that it was some poor kid that fell into a well and got himself a nickname.

The names are okay though, especially due to the potential of having a king called Pardiajaja or Kaevukoll, but the "gada" is out of place.