[MOD] SWMH 2.0  Map, de jure and general history mod. For a superior CK2 experience

[MOD] SWMH 2.0 Map, de jure and general history mod. For a superior CK2 experience

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I'm a bit hesitant to ask...since I'm not sure if I'm downloading wrong but is there a way to play SWMH with vanilla? I know you can install HIP without it, yet at this time I'd just like to play with the map.
Yes, just answer "no" to every module sans SWMH in the installer.
 

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I think there's a minor issue with 1071 - Skara province:
Code:
# Misc
culture = norse
religion = norse_pagan

# History
1008.1.1 = {religion = catholic}
1008.1.1 = {b_lacko = castle
b_arneasborg = castle 
b_skara = temple} # Skötkonung
1035.1.1 = { culture = gothic }
1060.8.2 = {religion = catholic}
The original religion is Norse, then in 1008 it's converted to Catholic, and in 1060 it's converted from Catholic to Catholic. Either the 1008 or 1060 entry seems redundant.

There's the same issue in 1075 - Wittenberg.
 
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(sorry in advance for grammatical mistakes)

I'm (North-)German and have been playing with this map for a while but I have got a few suggestions for the German Title names.

Whenever the HRE has a revolt it sounds a little off. This may partially be because it says "Kaiserliche Revolt", because it would be "Kaiserliche Revolte" in German, but that can be overlooked bc you cant localize revolt names and "Revolt'" is also a more medieval poetic version of the word. As far as I am concerned the German adjectives for the HRE-Titles are a bit odd though so I tried to make a list to fix some of them:

Baiern: Bairische (for the dutchies its oberbairische etc.)
Kärnten: Kärntische
Schaben: Schwäbische
Italien: Italienische/ Lombardische
Böhmen: Böhmische
Polen: Polnische

Its only a minor thing though but I thought you'd like to know.
 

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Should we not still have France as "Francia Occidentalis" and Germany as "Francia Orientalis" in the 936 bookmark?

I can kind of live with "France", but having East Francia as "Deutschland" under Otto the Great is not only slightly (subjectively) disgusting, but also as far as I can tell, very (objectively) wrong.
 

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Which is better performance wise, miniSWMH or vanilla map?
Vanilla map has more provinces than miniSWMH, but miniSWMH likely still has more characters defined. I'm not sure how the performance compares between those two.
 

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(sorry in advance for grammatical mistakes)

I'm (North-)German and have been playing with this map for a while but I have got a few suggestions for the German Title names.

Whenever the HRE has a revolt it sounds a little off. This may partially be because it says "Kaiserliche Revolt", because it would be "Kaiserliche Revolte" in German, but that can be overlooked bc you cant localize revolt names and "Revolt'" is also a more medieval poetic version of the word. As far as I am concerned the German adjectives for the HRE-Titles are a bit odd though so I tried to make a list to fix some of them:

Baiern: Bairische (for the dutchies its oberbairische etc.)
Kärnten: Kärntische
Schaben: Schwäbische
Italien: Italienische/ Lombardische
Böhmen: Böhmische
Polen: Polnische

Its only a minor thing though but I thought you'd like to know.
*Kärntische" is NOT a word. "Kärntner" would be the correct term.
 

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I wonder, how long should the "Kingdom of Aquitaine" be de jure? I'm currently playing the 1187 (Third Crusade) bookmark, and I'm thinking France should have a de jure claim on the English held land in Aquitaine to facilitate their gradual takeover. Does it make sense to even have Aquitaine as a de jure kingdom then at all?
 

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The addition of the 936 bookmark was long awaited. What I noticed off the bat: a 26 year old character has a 16 year old daughter. The low ID on the daughter suggests it's not a dynamically generated character. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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For some little issue of historical marriage in 1000 bookmark.

In-game Emir of Toledo (ID: 3206) should be married to the Princess Teresa of Leon (ID: 1235060) and Princess Urraka of Navarre (ID: 106042)

Ref: Kingdoms of Faith: A New History of Islamic Spain, Chapter 14

[EDITED]

Actually the direct demense of Umayyad Caliph Hisham II is too large, he is just the toy king of his chambalain Almanzor
 
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Should we not still have France as "Francia Occidentalis" and Germany as "Francia Orientalis" in the 936 bookmark?

I can kind of live with "France", but having East Francia as "Deutschland" under Otto the Great is not only slightly (subjectively) disgusting, but also as far as I can tell, very (objectively) wrong.
I tend to agree that as a default* 'Deutsches Reich' (Regnum Teutonicum), which I prefer over 'Reich der Deutschen' (Regnum Teutonicorum), would be better than 'Deutschland'. Francia Orientalis IMHO only makes sense, when there is a Francia Occidentalis as well. Other alternatives include Austrasien and Germania (Germanien). Though the latter IMHO is better suited for the non-HRE e_germany title.

(*= like 'France')
 

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A suggestion regarding the parentage of al-Mughith Umar (ID 93034). His father should be Al-Adil II (ID 32926) of Egypt already correctly shown as having died in prison after his brother As-Salih deposed him.

Mentioned in 'From Slave to Sultan: The Career of al-Manṣūr Qalāwūn' as being a nephew of as-Salih and his full title being al-Mughith 'Umar b. al-Adil II in 'From Saladin to the Mongols: The Ayyubids of Damascus' .
 
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A suggestion regarding the parentage of al-Mughith Umar (ID 93034). His father should be Al-Adil II (ID 32926) of Egypt already correctly shown as having died in prison after his brother As-Salih deposed him.

Mentioned in 'From Slave to Sultan: The Career of al-Manṣūr Qalāwūn' as being a nephew of as-Salih and his full title being al-Mughith 'Umar b. al-Adil II in 'From Saladin to the Mongols: The Ayyubids of Damascus' .
Thanks for the report! The age difference between them is only 9 years, though, so I changed al-Mughith's year of birth to 1240.
 

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1240 was my choice too. Wouldn't be surprised if that was exaclty when he was born.

edit; should also suggest maybe a history file entry of him being executed by Baibars in 1263 as happened in real life. Not sure of exact date but I just kept it as January 1. Made him stubborn,proud and ambitious as he was a pain in the rear for the early mamluks.
 
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1240 was my choice too. Wouldn't be surprised if that was exaclty when he was born.

edit; should also suggest maybe a history file entry of him being executed by Baibars in 1263 as happened in real life. Not sure of exact date but I just kept it as January 1. Made him stubborn,proud and ambitious as he was a pain in the rear for the early mamluks.
Done!
 

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King Robert II of France should have 4 sons, the eldest son Hugues the Great and the youngest son Odo?

If Hugues the Great had not died in his revolt accidentally, he would succeed the throne.

Odo maybe with the trait 'slow'?
 

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No presige based tribal retinue?

Have played a lot with full HIP, and recently wanted to try out just the map (installed it via the HIP.exe).

I noticed that even when picking a tribal ruler, I only had access to gold based feudal retinues. Is this a bug or a feature? I had access to the tribal retinues when I played with full HIP, but not with I only install SWMH or miniSWMH.
 

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King Robert II of France should have 4 sons, the eldest son Hugues the Great and the youngest son Odo?

If Hugues the Great had not died in his revolt accidentally, he would succeed the throne.

Odo maybe with the trait 'slow'?
You are right. It should be:
Hugues and Eudes (as well as Constance) are absent from the game right now.
Robert also left an illegitimate son: Rudolph, Bishop of Bourges.

On a similar note: Alfonso V of Leon has three children ingame. The oldest one has a different mother than the other two - which is correct - but should actually be his youngest daughter. She actually wasn't 8 years old in 1018 and was only born in 1023.
 

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You are right. It should be:
Hugues and Eudes (as well as Constance) are absent from the game right now.
Robert also left an illegitimate son: Rudolph, Bishop of Bourges.

On a similar note: Alfonso V of Leon has three children ingame. The oldest one has a different mother than the other two - which is correct - but should actually be his youngest daughter. She actually wasn't 8 years old in 1018 and was only born in 1023.
Will take a look when i get an opportunity to really look at the history files again.

Real life is in control right now, not SWMH.

Edit: Seems like Constance is doubtful, so she should probably be kept out
 
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