[MOD] SWMH 2.0 Map, de jure and general history mod. For a superior CK2 experience

[Aasmul]

In the next update, I'd suggest getting rid of Adelaide of Susa's duke-tier title (speaking of Adelaide, she always seems to have a harelip, but I can find no historical mention of it). Her title was Marchioness of Susa/Turin, not Duchess of Ivrea, same goes for her father. Add in the fact she only controls one county in the duchy and I don't think it's justified. I'd also maybe relocalise the Duchy of Montferrat (which didn't exist until the 16th century) into a marquisate/march to better fit the time period, and give it to the historical marquises. Either that or rename the county of Bosco back to Montferrat and make Chivasso the capital again, but keep Bosco as a barony (from what I can tell Bosco was a small separate march on the southern tip of the in-game province). I'd also make Saluzzo a marquisate and have it exist after 1125. Maybe separate the del Vasto family from the Aleramici, too?

I can't promise to what exend these things will be touched on for the update but I will keep them in mind for the version after if I don't get to them.
For the history part, Im still adding and reworking the history in northernmost Italy(Lombardy and Veneto mainly atm) so there will be some movement in the general area for the update and next one aswell. About the marquisate titles you are onto something, and its crossed my mind aswell as I was making the setup. I've hold back on custom titles due technical worries in the past but it might be a possibility of reintroducing. Bosco it staying as is, it was on par with the Monferrat branch in importance for a good while of the game period and it wasn't small. Del Vasto definitely ought to be their own dynasty for sure.

 

[Barón Rojo]

I don't see anywhere the de Traba house, which are the expected rulers of the Trastamara county.

Family tree: http://www.xenealoxiasdoortegal.net/ortegal/traba.htm

Expected ruler in 1066: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froila_Vermúdez_de_Traba
https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froila_Vermúdez

His son: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Fróilaz_de_Traba

And about La Coruña being the capital of the county, it does not existed until 1208. It was called Faro before then, although the capital in this case should be Traba.

In France, Dax held by Vikings in 867: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labourd

 

[Ivir Baggins]

In France, Dax held by Vikings in 867: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labourd

"In the year 844 Viking raiders conquered the former oppidum of Lapurdum, where they established a base for their incursions. They were only expelled in 986, leaving a legacy of naval expertise in Labourd and all the coastal Basque Country. The town came out of this period attested as Bayonne (and like variants)."

Huh.

 

[Harald Fairhair]

I would like to suggest lakes along the river dnepr and docks in Kiev. Kievan vikings (both norse and russian pagans) should have the oppurtunity to sometimes with large fleets attack Byzantine from there. This have happen at least historical three times by Oleg (Helge, Ruriks/Røreks brother in law), Igor (Yngvar) and Yaroslav.

 

[Admiral Fischer]

In France, Dax held by Vikings in 867: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labourd

From the 'Bayonne' article:

Documentation on Bayonne for the period from the High Middle Ages are virtually nonexistent. with the exception of two Norman intrusions: one questionable in 844 and a second attested in 892.

So now we have a conflict. In one article Wikipedia blatantly says "Vikings conquered Lapurdum (=Bayonne) in 844" and another article "but that one is questionable".

Just as a matter of fact, a similar passage in the 'Vikings' article...

In 840, the Danes began their attacks on the Frankish Empire – not on the Seine but on the Adour. Gascony fell under their complete control as early as 844. The leader of the invasion, Björn Ironside, became the ruler of the area and gave his name to Bayonne (originally "Björnhamn"). Hastein had occupied Noirmoutier in 843. In 845 Asgeir began to settle in Saintonge in Aquitania. Effectively, by 845 all the lands around the Bay of Biscay were under Danish control.

...was removed since 2006 for being pseudo-historical theory.

Nothing to see here, let's move on.

 

[Steelcan]

I'm not sure if this is the right spot to ask this, but here goes..

I've been uniting Pomerania as a slavic pagan and destroying the plague of titular titles as I quickly can, will my vassals be able to recreate these if they accumulate money?

 

[erkkijuusto]

I'm not sure if this is the right spot to ask this, but here goes..

I've been uniting Pomerania as a slavic pagan and destroying the plague of titular titles as I quickly can, will my vassals be able to recreate these if they accumulate money?

I have the impression that the AI ignores creating titular titles, but I could be wrong. I can't really remember any instance in which I've noticed the AI creating a titular title.

 

[Erilaz]

They do. I've made a small tweak mod that removes the titular Wendish kingdoms in the early bookmark and makes them creatable instead, and the AI Obodrites created their titular kingdom title during testing.

Unmodded though, to answer the initial question, these titular kingdoms can't be created.

 

[theKing1988]

k_oborites = { # Obodriti
    color = { 41 85 98 }
    capital = 260 # Mecklenburg # Mecklemburg
    culture = pommeranian
    allow = { always = no }
}
k_pommeranians = { # Pomorzani
    color = { 11 5 129 }
    capital = 1313 # Belgard # Kolberg
    culture = pommeranian
    allow = { always = no }
}
k_lutici = { # Ljutici
    color = { 22 57 233 }
    capital = 365 # Brandenburg
    culture = pommeranian
    allow = { always = no }
}
k_sorbs = { # Sorbi
    color = { 209 147 2 }
    capital = 364 # Oberlausitz
    culture = pommeranian
    allow = { always = no }
}

The allow = { always = no } deals with title creation. It prevents them from being created unless they already exists at game start

 

[IoannesBarbarus]

BTW this will be tweaked in the next release: like other titular titles, they will become creatable if they stop being titular (drift some land into themselves)

 

[drorin]

I have some suggestion for dynamic localisation:

First, i'd like to see names of companies and bands of mercs in their native languages, some exemples:

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d_varangian_guard
greek = "Tágma ton Varángon"
russian = "Varyázhskaya strázha"
d_great_company
bavarian = "Grössten Gefährten"
german = "Grössten Gefährten"
d_company_of_st_george
italian = "Compagnia di San Giorgio"
d_star_company
italian = "Compagnia della Stella"
d_little_hat_company
italian = "Compagnia del Cappelletto"
d_rose_company
venetian = "Compagnia della Rosa"
d_catalan_company
catalan = "Companyia Almogàver"
d_navarrese_company
basque = "Nafarroako Konpainia"
d_rus_company
russian = "Russkiy Kompanii"

Second, name of some regions is bad dynamically localised because cultures that own them dont have the name in their languages. This happens in
Iberian Peninsula when Tagelmust or Znaga cultures own territories, like Jaén, maybe this region will be Yayyan like other arabic languages, but i'm not sure. Another example is when a turkic culture owns Caesarea, Tiberias or Naples.

Third, I think every region of the Kingdom of Jerusalem should have more diversity of culture localisation because if I play as german or spanish character and I win a crusade I would like see this regions in my character language, Some examples that I add in my games:

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c_caesarea
frankish = "Césarée"
norman = "Césarée"
castillan = "Cesarea"
bulgarian = "Kesariya"
bosnian = "Cezarija"
catalan = "Cesarea"
basque = "Zesarea"
polish = "Cezarea"
portuguese = "Cesareia"
russian = "Kesariya"
serbian = "Cezareja"
turkish = "Kayserya"
turkmen = "Kayserya"
bedouin_arabic = "Kaysaria"
maghreb_arabic = "Kaysaria"
levantine_arabic = "Kaysaria"
egyptian_arabic = "Kaysaria"
andalusian_arabic = "Kaysaria"
sicilian_arabic = "Kaysaria"
sanhaja = "Kaysaria"
tagelmust = "Kaysaria"
tuareg = "Kaysaria"
ashkenazi = "Qesarya"
sephardi = "Qesarya"

c_ascalon
turkish = "Askelon"
turkmen = "Askelon"
castillan = "Ascalón"
ashkenazi = "Ashkelon"
sephardi = "Ashkelon"
bulgarian = "Ashkelon"
catalan = "Ascaló"
bohemian = "Aškelon"
german = "Aschkelon"
frankish = "Ascalon"
norman = "Ascalon"
basque = "Axkelon"
finnish = "Askalon"
gaelic = "Ashkelon"
danish = "Ashkelon"
english = "Ascalon"
croatian = "Aškelon"
hungarian = "Askelón"
georgian = "Ashk'eloni"
italian = "Ascalun"
lithuanian = "Aškelonas"
dutch = "Asjkelon"
polish = "Aszkelon"
portuguese = "Ascalão"
romanian = "Askelon"
russian = "Ashkelon"
serbian = "Ashkelon"
venetian = "Ascalona"

If you want I can give you my modified swmh_landed_titles.txt if you want profit my "work" in this aspect. Obviously i'm no native of all languages (I speak spanish and catalan), so if you have another font would be better.

Thanks for your work and keep it up.

 

[majesty8]

Beta Yisrael probably Mitsrayim

I'm pretty sure Beta Israel used Ethiopian/Ge'ez, not Hebrew.

 

[drorin]

I don't think this makes any grammatical sense, but I am not versed in Russian enough to change it. Russkaya Druzhina maybe.

Sure, i have not idea of russian, but I add it in my game because i prefer something that looks for me russian instead an english term. Same for german. I only can be rigorous on spanish and catalan terms.

I try to purge the modern spellings, please. Askalon is the archaic spelling.

That was true again, I search this terms on internet, and i think even my native language spellings are modern. But I prefer this instead of english for them.

My intention give ideas to improve dynamic localisation.

 

[drorin]

Don't worry, it had not sound passive-aggressive.

 

[Herr Doctor]

d_rus_company
russian = "Russkiy Kompanii"

Should be "Russkaya kompaniya" ("Русская компания"), but this sounds a bit anachronistic. If you want more medieval flavour should be rather "Russkaya druzhina".

 

[Clockwork666]

Shouldn't Cairo be Qahira in Egyptian localisation? Every other county seems fine, but that one.

 

[BlackCappedChickadee]

As beautiful as this mod is, with all of the work that has been put into it... I wish I could use it. After thinking about it, I can accept not having India since I never play with it anyway (and it is a butt ugly mess that looks nothing like the real India), but I just can't do without my beloved 769 bookmark. Mainly because I'm obsessed with always marrying Anthousa Isauros, and because I'm obsessed with either playing as the Zunists, or buddying up with them to protect them from the stupid Abbasid blob. I know the reason why you nixed the 769 bookmark is because of the lack of real life map records for this era, and the idea of this mod is to make it resemble the contemporary real world as much as possible - doing a 769 map would involve a lot of guesswork, which I know is not what you are going for with this. I'm useless at artwork in any way, shape, or form, but I have studied history and anthropology extensively, so if you would consider doing a 769 map at any point, I would be glad to help you out, if you wish.

 

[Gwyn ap Nud]

There's a submod for that project entitled Vaguely More Historic, run by exin. He's the chap to ask about this.

 

[Lysistrata]

It's odd that Adrianoupolis is de-jure part of Bulgaria, given how rarely they actually controlled it and how consistently Greek it was. Maybe transfer Kopsis and Zagoria to the Duchy of Tarnovo and make what's left of Makedonia part of the Kingdom of Thessalonica?

Speaking of Thessalonica, it's using the wrong CoA (I'd maybe use Saluzzo's CoA, except with a red band instead of a blue one) and it's capital is Constantinople instead of Thessalonica. Maybe make a separate Kingdom of Constantinople/Byzantium/whatever with Thessalonica's current CoA and Thrace and the Aegean Islands (kinda makes sense I think, since this was, excluding Morea and Mesembria, the area the Byzantines were reduced to by 1453)?

 

[theKing1988]

k_egypt
ethiopian = "Gibs"
Beta Yisrael probably Misrayim (fixed, see my post below)
d_alexandria (c_ditto and b_ditto)
ethiopian = "Aleksdandrya"
d_cairo (c_ditto and b_ditto)
ethiopian = "Kayro"
k_jerusalem (d_ditto, c_ditto and b_ditto)
ethiopian = "Yerusalem"
b_bethlehem
ethiopian = "Bete Lihem"
d_sinai
ethiopian = "Sina"
d_damascus (etc)
ethiopian = "Demasko" (b_citadelofdamascus could be Demasko Gebi)
k_antioch (etc)
ethiopian = "Ansokya" (b_harenc could be Ansokya Gebi)
d_tripoli
ethiopian = "Finike"
d_tedjoura (etc)
ethiopian = "Tagura"
b_obock
ethiopian = "Obok"
b_dikhil
ethiopian = "Dikil"
b_djibouti
ethiopian = "Gibuti"
d_axum
ethiopian = "Aksum"
k_abyssinia
ethiopian = "Ityopya" may we?

b_blanchegarde
greek = "Saphitha" (rather than translated white guard)
arabian name is missing, not sure which transliteration is preferable.

I would be interested in where you've got these from, because i literally can't confirm some of them myself. The only amharic spelling i can find for Damascus is Demasik'o just to mention an example