[MOD] SWMH 2.0 Map, de jure and general history mod. For a superior CK2 experience

[Meneth]

It should include all relevant changes from the 1.101 beta

Won't be tomorrow
Not sure really, it depends a bit if we decide on just updating fully for 867(extremely boring work) or if we wait too release it along with the British overhaul(fun work) we got in the works atm.
If its the second option then I don' think it will be out in June, but hopefully it won't be very far into July. Will know a bit more in a week or so when we have had time to better assess and decide how to tackle it.

Will start by doing all navigable rivers so they will be ready in case we go for option one.

As long as you don't wait with nerfing Russia until July then I'll be happy

 

[Meneth]

considering how many bugs has been reported in the first few hours 2.75 has been up, I don' think you need to fear waiting that long

Great!
Gotten Leon not being dejure Iberian fixed?

 

[Meneth]

@Aasmul:
In the next version, could you make the Shia Caliphate kingdom-tier, and have the Fatimids hold it and not Egypt? It'd help make them more historically accurate, and weaken them.
If you're not willing to do that, could you at least move the Caliphate out into a separate landed titles file so I can do it in PB+SWMH; as I can't do it currently with it buried in landed_titles.
To make Egypt harder to form you could perhaps simply require a decadence below 25%; that'll slow the Fatimids down a lot.

 

[Meneth]

It sounds like a good idea to me, but I think Elvain almost have to okay it being done before we can do such a switch directly in plain swmh. Will move the caliphate out for the next version.

Thanks

 

[Meneth]

would you consider changing HRE's and Egypt's color?

Agreed.
For the HRE, a nice grey would be great. 120 120 120 works quite well.
For Egypt I'm not quite sure what, but anything that isn't almost-wasteland would be an improvement.

 

[Meneth]

Project Balance has been updated for the newest SWMH version.

 

[Meneth]

Bug report:
Some counties in South-West England start independent in the post-Hastings start.

 

[Meneth]

I just freshly installed SWMH + PB, but the HRE has a blue banner with hearts quite like the kingdom of frisia. Isn`t that supposed to be the black eagle on yellow background?

Make sure you've got PB, PB+SWMH, and SWMH all enabled.
I'd also recommend cleaning out your flag cache.

 

[Meneth]

Noob question but where is my flag cache ? And will i be able to continue playing the same save ?

For PB+SWMH, go to My Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\ProjectBalance_Some what more historic (NV) and delete the gfx folder.

 

[Meneth]

Hmm okay that doesnt seem to work for me. What would happen if i just remove everything in the My documents part of crusader kings II ( I am aware it would destroy all my save files). But would/should that help me out?

I doubt that would help if clearing out the flag cache itself didn't.
Have you made sure you've got the correct mods enabled? PB, PB+SWMH, and SWMH must all three be enabled.

 

[Meneth]

Hmm even after the clearing of both my mod folder in steam and the whole my documents folder of CKII, the HRE keeps the same blue with white hearts COA.

Have you redownloaded the latest versions of PB and SWMH as well? As CoAs are working just fine for me.

 

[Meneth]

Well i used the frontpage downloads of today but didnt actually redownload because i still had them on my pc. But that shouldnt matter, right?

Shouldn't matter, no.

 

[Meneth]

Luckily that issue should fix itself entirely once Paradox releases 1.101 to everyone, which is hopefully later today.

 

[Meneth]

We are snoobing around for some potential color options atm, HRE is a difficult one though, im not too keen on a light grey like vanilla and a bright yellow is a bit hard on the eyes.

A somewhat darker grey works great
In the 100 to 120 range looks rather good.

 

[Meneth]

We've been over this, I prefer Gold (250 188 0), which IMHO certainly isn't too bright.

Meanwhile, I think that gold stands out like a sore thumb. 110 110 110 on the other hand...

 

[Meneth]

IMHO (110 110 110) looks like a thumb suffering from necrosis... Seriously IMHO (250 188 0) isn't too bright, nor sticks out too much. Though since some seem to prefer darker shades, IIRC France used to be brighter too; so if preferred, then maybe a less bright variant of gold would be more acceptable?

Gold just... ugh.
Just feels wrong for the HRE, and for such a huge realm stands out far too much.

 

[Meneth]

It seems like you know what I think of grey...

Further IMHO I can't see what your talking about, since that way I see it, it does not stand out. Though I just conceded that maybe a darker shade of gold (or yellow) would be better than my (250 188 0) proposal.

Finally, as one can tell from the avatar I use, I like the HRE (though some extra depth in game play would be nice); but I just have a dislike of the (IMHO ugly/dull) colour grey.

Grey is of course boring.
Better with a boring color than an eye-grabber though, as essentially all the colors on the map are purposefully a bit dull so that they don't end up being distracting.

 

[Meneth]

Its because it's soooooo fashionable ......maybe the HRE should be pink?

I think I might prefer pink over puke green

 

[Meneth]

New HRE color:

Can't say I'm a fan, but at least it's better than puke green.
Grey HRE, best HRE.

 

[Meneth]

Shouldn't "Puglia" be whatever Puglia's name was in old Norman?

By the way, the HRE colour looks fine to me. Much better than dull grey. The grey HRE made me feel I was fighting Nazi Germany.

Note that the 100 to 120 range of grey looks quite a bit better than the vanilla grey (155)