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There is also the aspect that I am more fond of modding euiii originally than ckii and really only went to ckii was due to me not having a mod team (anymore)
 

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I'm honestly sick of modding CK2 at this stage, it's no longer fun because the engine is very limited and performance is terrible. The vanilla game's history is also a train wreck that I can't fix, considering the characters folder alone has over ten thousand errors. EUIV either natively has the features we want (Elections and parliaments) or can support them (Territory system). Plus, the way CK2 handles religions and cultures (As self-sontained units) leads to them having no content because there are so many.
While i can't stop you from going over to EUIV, i'm personally not really interested in EU4 in the same way, the game just lacks personality somehow, there's no real characters, no dynastic infighting, no rebellious vassals, and the religions are just kinda bland. Also mana points are just horrible.
 
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The problem with CK2 is that it's too ambitious. You can't add every single character, faith and culture because history is so large and you also have to take gameplay into account. When you try, you end up with the bland, bugged, poorly researched, historically incorrect game that CK2 is. The character-focused engine that CK2 uses would be better off being used for a sci fi or fantasy game, because you either know what exactly you need to add, or you're making things up to add, especially if it's a new story. The CK2 engine works for Lux Invicta, Elder Kings, and the AGoT mod for these reasons, and it's why a CK2-style character-focused version of Stellaris would also work.

I've always thought that the era CK2 represents would be better off being used for an EU-style game, but I was too impressed by CK2 (My first GS game) until now to fully realise it.
 
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I've said this before but a mod like this for EUIV is just going to be a relatively bland Extended Timeline Light.
 
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I will kick myself for dropping CK2, but there's no other option for us now. We want to represent 337 - 1453 properly, and CK2 is not capable of doing that. I also disagree with the path the game's development has taken recently. The DLCs since SoA have become gimmicky, historically incorrect, and lazy. The focus is on milking the game and just wholesale integrating mods, not actually overhauling it in EUIV-manner. If you compare EUIV now to the train wreck it was at release, you'll see almost a new game.
 
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I've said this before but a mod like this for EUIV is just going to be a relatively bland Extended Timeline Light.
No offence to the EL guys, but their map is terrible, their mod is devoid of features, and their history is wrong in a lot of places. Our goal is to represent 337 - 1453 as best as possible.
 
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So while you guys are moving this grand scale to EUIV (which I do admit seems more fitting) will you leave the current available CK build or no?
 

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We will release what we have. I would have preferred for someone to take this over, but if our work helps other modders, that's good too.
 

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While i can't stop you from going over to EUIV, i'm personally not really interested in EU4 in the same way, the game just lacks personality somehow, there's no real characters, no dynastic infighting, no rebellious vassals, and the religions are just kinda bland. Also mana points are just horrible.
Mana points. Simple reason why I do not play EU4.
 
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Neither CK2 nor EU4 is properly modifiable. EU4 is too fixed. CK2 is too full of bugs. Yay. Moving to EU4 will at least liberate modders from bugs though.
Well, EUIV is overall much easier to mod. To add a new government, it's as simple as editing two files. CK2 has 100 ways it could fuck that up, EUIV has like 10 compared.
 
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I was looking forward to playing things like the Fall of Rome or the Rise of Islam in CKII's system. :( Really sucks that you're going to EUIV. Never was a fan of how lacking it was in the character department. Or everything really.
 
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I was looking forward to playing things like the Fall of Rome or the Rise of Islam in CKII's system. :( Really sucks that you're going to EUIV. Never was a fan of how lacking it was in the character department. Or everything really.
Don't worry there is mod during migration period. This is When the World Stopped Making Sense. I think it is preety good. It can be better, of course, but it is beta.
 
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