Mod policy for HOI4?

[uishax]

Looking at the PR disaster that is the Stellaris mod pull, its clear that Paradox not only censors the German version, but will actively scan and take down any mods it deems offensive.
This is extremely worrying, since WWII has a lot more sensitive topics than a space game.
I hope Paradox can clarify their mod policy on HOI4, what they allow vs what they will take down.

 

[Gamengervi]

Stellaris mod pull?

 

[Nicolas I]

Oh boy, another of these threads. These people justify why the German laws exists. More countries should adopt them.

 

[uishax]

Stellaris mod pull?

Its first news on both the stellaris forum and reddit.

 

[Doctoxic]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sonfn8

 

[Nicolas I]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sonfn8

So you are mad at Paradox because racial slurs are not allowed ? What fine people you are.

 

[safe-keeper]

Stellaris mod pull?

In short, a mod that removed all non-white people from Stellaris, apparently with a racist description, was pulled from Steam Workshop.

 

[JerkyJerry]

And I wish the result is promising enough so I don't lose all my goodwill (and pre-order) on Paradox.

Wow, the lengths some people will go to. Ridiculous absolutely ridiculous

 

[Nicolas I]

In short, a mod that removed all non-white people from Stellaris, apparently with a racist description, was pulled from Steam Workshop.

Because extraterrestrial beings cannot be coloured ?

While I'm proud of Paradox policies to not tolerate intolerant people, I wonder why they let them so much breathing space on the forum. They probably want to avoid them playing victims, but it's hopeless as they will anyway.

 

[chaostk]

So you are mad at Paradox because racial slurs are not allowed ? What fine people you are.

Part of the problem seems to be that many only heard that Paradox took down the mod just because it only limited to white phenotype and are wondering if it mean they would also do the same to mods that limit phenotype, while the reason reported for taking it down is actually because of racial slurs on the mod description than what the mod does.

 

[uishax]

Part of the problem seems to be that many only heard that Paradox took down the mod just because it only limited to white phenotype and are wondering if it mean they would also do the same to mods that limit phenotype, while the reason reported for taking it down is actually because of racial slurs on the mod description than what the mod does.

I think the 'slur' refered to the words 'no multiculturalism', this page was cached.

Regardless, if Paradox could just state that only description is monitored then that'd be fine, I just hope Nazi flag mods won't be taken down when HOI4 is released.

 

[AhoyDeerrr]

I just hope Nazi flag mods won't be taken down when HOI4 is released.

Paradox will most likely be deleting Nazi flag mods and any other mods that contain things that Paradox does not like. Quote from the HOI4 rules thread.

Any links posted to a mod which includes a Swastika or other illegal Nazi symbols will be deleted

So one can only assume they will also delete the mod threads and their associated Steam workshop pages. That being said Mod db is a thing and is outside the reach of Paradox, so rest assured there will be mods available over there that would otherwise be banned here and on the workshop.

 

[Windlife]

I think the 'slur' refered to the words 'no multiculturalism', this page was cached.

Regardless, if Paradox could just state that only description is monitored then that'd be fine, I just hope Nazi flag mods won't be taken down when HOI4 is released.

They will take down every Nazi mod they can. It's in their own rules to do so.

If you were hoping for a Nazi mod, get it from moddb. You'll never find it here or anywhere on the steam workshop because Paradox will rip it down.

 

[Lifthrasil]

I support Paradox in fighting content that is racist or condones war crimes. But it would certainly be helpful to know what exactly Paradox will allow, so well meaning modders know in advance what might be considered forbidden so they can avoid putting time in this. Not everyone using certain expressions means them harmful, especially when mods are made about WW2 Germany. Germany back then was just an awefull place to be, with a horrible government, and mods about that history have the risk of depicting that horror too well, without any bad intention by the modder, i think.

 

[uishax]

I guess the flag one is clear cut (obvious and visual), but what about ones translating unsavory history events into gameplay? Will Paradox actively try to hunt them down, or if the description is cryptic enough they'll let it live?

 

[Jamey]

Looking at the PR disaster that is the Stellaris mod pull, its clear that Paradox not only censors the German version, but will actively scan and take down any mods it deems offensive.
This is extremely worrying, since WWII has a lot more sensitive topics than a space game.
I hope Paradox can clarify their mod policy on HOI4, what they allow vs what they will take down.

The PR disaster here is that "news" sites ran articles while only hearing one side of the story, leading to an idiotic story running.

From Paradoxal_Bear on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/...lls_discriminatory_stellaris_mod_that/d3ht2c6

mod, thought it wasn't in very good taste, but let it remain. Then the creator of the mod decided to update the description of the mod to promote an "agenda" not related to computer games at all, and this was being clearly displayed on our product page. We decided it was a step too far and removed it. Eurogamer did not do a good job describing what exactly it was we removed.

This is a tempest in a teapot created by imbeciles who didn't ask Paradox why they pulled the mod. I won't post a link to the Eurogamer article because I believe that irresponsible journalism should not be supported with page views.

Paradox has published forum rules and mod rules. What more needs clarification?

 

[uishax]

The PR disaster here is that "news" sites ran articles while only hearing one side of the story, leading to an idiotic story running.

From Paradoxal_Bear on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/...lls_discriminatory_stellaris_mod_that/d3ht2c6



This is a tempest in a teapot created by imbeciles who didn't ask Paradox why they pulled the mod. I won't post a link to the Eurogamer article because I believe that irresponsible journalism should not be supported with page views.

Paradox has published forum rules and mod rules. What more needs clarification?

The community response is most evident in the Stellaris forum post, where the most enthusiastic players gather, and most are worried about Paradox's behaviour.
Eurogamer even defended themselves stating they made the news using a Paradox press statement.

 

[Emnyron]

Paradox has published forum rules and mod rules. What more needs clarification?

Where the line goes.

 

[Karimas]

The community response is most evident in the Stellaris forum post, where the most enthusiastic players gather, and most are worried about Paradox's behaviour.
Eurogamer even defended themselves stating they made the news using a Paradox press statement.

I can totally understand that they are worried that the "slave only black people" and "exterminate all asian" mods might be taken down too. *ironic*
Its stupid, just plain stupid. You have the freedom of the universe at your feet, but you care about the color of your skin?

No problem for all the other mods.....

 

[HyperVoxel]

So you are mad at Paradox because racial slurs are not allowed ? What fine people you are.

No, I am sure people just want to be historically accurate.