[mod] More dynamic cultural names

[n00bypl4y3r]

Any idea how to make it more Lombardic?

Without a more thorough knowledge of their language there really is no way. By 769 they really shouldn't be considered Germanic anyway, they had long since integrated into the local population and the only remnant of their Germanic past was some of their names. My suggestion? Name the kingdom in Latin.

PS: The same thing has to be done for Avaria, which is currently called Hungary in 769. My fix would be Avaria for Avars, Pannonia for everyone else, Hungary/Magyar name equivalent for Hungarians, and maybe a variant for Croatian and Bohemian. The same can be done for Carpathia.

Er, no it's not. It is called Avaria and has a different coat of arms until someone else takes it over. An event pops talking about the fall of the Avars in which the kingdom is renamed to Pannonia. I can get screenshots of a 100% vanilla game if you want.

 

[killerbee256]

Er, no it's not. It is called Avaria and has a different coat of arms until someone else takes it over. An event pops talking about the fall of the Avars in which the kingdom is renamed to Pannonia. I can get screenshots of a 100% vanilla game if you want.

No he's correct, Dakilla TM was talking about the effect this mod has on the game, which is that it causes Avaria to default to Hungry in 769.

 

[n00bypl4y3r]

No he's correct, Dakilla TM was talking about the effect this mod has on the game, which is that it causes Avaria to default to Hungry in 769.

Oh. I don't use the mod, I thought he was just talking about the base game.

 

[killerbee256]

I'm having a problem, changed roman.txt didn't change the e_byzantine title history, thought it did fix the papacy list. I think there is a another file somewhere which I need to modify. Also I found Yiddish names on that web site and I have compiled them. But I still need to go through the current ashkenazi names because already just looking them I over I can see they are not linked properly.

Spoiler: Male

Alter Anshel Avrum_Abraham Benesh_Benedict Ber Chatzkel_Ezekiel Dovid_David Dudel_David Evron_Ephraim Faivish_Feibush Fayvel_Feivel Feivel_Feivel Feibush_Feibush Fishel_Fishel Fishke_Fishel Gavrel_Gabriel Haskel_Ezekiel Herschel_Hershel Hersh_Hershel Hershel_Hershel Heshel_Hershel Hirsh_Hershel Hirshel_Hershel Hyman Hymie Iser_Yisrael Issur_Yisrael Kapel_Jacob Koppel_Jacob Lazer_Elazar Lieber Mendel Moishe_Moses Motke Nosson_Nathan Selig_Selig Sender_Alexander Shimmel Shimon_Simon Sroel_Yisrael Tevye Velvel Yankel_Jacob Yidel Yudel Yussel_Joseph Zalman_Solomon Zelig_Selig Zusman

Spoiler: Female

Alte Baila_Baila Beylke_Baila Bluma Breindel Charna Eidel Faiga Faigel_Faiga Feige_Faiga Freyde Fruma Gittel Gluke Glukel Golda_Golda Goldie_Golda Hena_Anna Henda_Anna Hendel_Anna Hene_Anna Henye_Anna Hode_Hodel Hodel_Hodel Hudes_Judith Kaila_Kayla Kayla_Kayla Kreindel Kreine Leeba Mirele_Maryam Perele_Perele Perle_Perele Raisa Raisel Rayna_Rayna Reina_Rayna Rifka Ruchel_Rachel Shaina_Shaina Shaindel Shayna_Shaina Shaynah_Shaina Sheine_Shaina Shprintza_Sperantia Shprintze_Sperantia Shprintzel_Sperantia Sisel_Cecilia Suri_Sarah Toiba Tzeitel Velvela Yente Yentl Yutke Zelda Zelde Zisel_Cecilia Zusa

 

[Dakilla TM]

I'm having a problem, changed roman.txt didn't change the e_byzantine title history, thought it did fix the papacy list. I think there is a another file somewhere which I need to modify. Also I found Yiddish names on that web site and I have compiled them. But I still need to go through the current ashkenazi names because already just looking them I over I can see they are not linked properly.

Spoiler: Male

Alter Anshel Avrum_Abraham Benesh_Benedict Ber Chatzkel_Ezekiel Dovid_David Dudel_David Evron_Ephraim Faivish_Feibush Fayvel_Feivel Feivel_Feivel Feibush_Feibush Fishel_Fishel Fishke_Fishel Gavrel_Gabriel Haskel_Ezekiel Herschel_Hershel Hersh_Hershel Hershel_Hershel Heshel_Hershel Hirsh_Hershel Hirshel_Hershel Hyman Hymie Iser_Yisrael Issur_Yisrael Kapel_Jacob Koppel_Jacob Lazer_Elazar Lieber Mendel Moishe_Moses Motke Nosson_Nathan Selig_Selig Sender_Alexander Shimmel Shimon_Simon Sroel_Yisrael Tevye Velvel Yankel_Jacob Yidel Yudel Yussel_Joseph Zalman_Solomon Zelig_Selig Zusman

Spoiler: Female

Alte Baila_Baila Beylke_Baila Bluma Breindel Charna Eidel Faiga Faigel_Faiga Feige_Faiga Freyde Fruma Gittel Gluke Glukel Golda_Golda Goldie_Golda Hena_Anna Henda_Anna Hendel_Anna Hene_Anna Henye_Anna Hode_Hodel Hodel_Hodel Hudes_Judith Kaila_Kayla Kayla_Kayla Kreindel Kreine Leeba Mirele_Maryam Perele_Perele Perle_Perele Raisa Raisel Rayna_Rayna Reina_Rayna Rifka Ruchel_Rachel Shaina_Shaina Shaindel Shayna_Shaina Shaynah_Shaina Sheine_Shaina Shprintza_Sperantia Shprintze_Sperantia Shprintzel_Sperantia Sisel_Cecilia Suri_Sarah Toiba Tzeitel Velvela Yente Yentl Yutke Zelda Zelde Zisel_Cecilia Zusa

Interesting, I'll take a look and see what's going on. I know the Roman file has the names of Roman Emperors, and I thought that would change it

 

[killerbee256]

Interesting, I'll take a look and see what's going on. I know the Roman file has the names of Roman Emperors, and I thought that would change it

I double checked, some of them are affected by the changes but many are not. It's very odd.

 

[Dakilla TM]

I double checked, some of them are affected by the changes but many are not. It's very odd.

If it can't be changed, then the Roman name list would have to be set back to vanilla, or the names have to be Anglicized for the regnal numbering to work properly

 

[xXConquerorXx]

Some Emperors are Greek culture, especially around the 5th and 6th centuries.

 

[killerbee256]

Some Emperors are Greek culture, especially around the 5th and 6th centuries.

I thought about that and checked already, that's not the issue. Some of the ones that aren't working are Constantine the great and Domitian, they have roman culture. I have a plan to try an find the problem. First for example I'll change Constantinus to Constantinus_Constantine see if that helps. Second load every ck2 single text file in notepad ++ then search them all for for the charid of the emperor's who names aren't being displayed properly.

 

[killerbee256]

Well I feel stupid, I made a typo when I named the history folder! That's why it wasn't working!

 

[Andrelvis]

I'm thinking of giving k_Italy a Lombard name to by pass the current bug with Lombardy being renamed to Italy in the 769 start, the problem is there isn't much information on the Germanic Lombard language. From what I've read it seems like it was some where between Old High German and Gothic. For now perhaps Langobardenreich or Langobarden?

That sounds too much like modern German, Lombardic was quite different (Old High German was too, by the way).

In Old High German, the noun "Reich", was "rîchi" instead.

A tentative name (in Old High German, I don't know enough about Lombardic itself) would be "Langobardarîchi".

 

[killerbee256]

That sounds too much like modern German, Lombardic was quite different (Old High German was too, by the way).

In Old High German, the noun "Reich", was "rîchi" instead.

A tentative name (in Old High German, I don't know enough about Lombardic itself) would be "Langobardarîchi".

As has been said Lombardic seems to have been between old high German and old Saxon. So perhaps Langobardarîki?

 

[Andrelvis]

As has been said Lombardic seems to have been between old high German and old Saxon. So perhaps Langobardarîki?

It was actually a High German language, or a part of Old High German itself:
http://multitree.org/codes/lng

 

[Dakilla TM]

Well I feel stupid, I made a typo when I named the history folder! That's why it wasn't working!

I was about to tell you how mine ended up working after I changed Adrian to Hadrianus. But congrats, now the regnal numbering is fixed!

 

[killerbee256]

I was about to tell you how mine ended up working after I changed Adrian to Hadrianus. But congrats, now the regnal numbering is fixed!

I ran the mod thought the validator and fixed the minor errors, I'll post the current version of the mod soon, before I do that when you have time could you post your version of landed_titles with the capitalisation typos fixed.

It was actually a High German language, or a part of Old High German itself:
http://multitree.org/codes/lng

From what I've read there is so little information on Lombardic no one is really sure, only a few things are clear, for example that b in OHG becomes p "pert < bert" "prand < brand" which means I should probably revise the Lombard names at some point to apply this if paradox hasn't already.

 

[Dakilla TM]

AFAIK it is possible, yes. Take a look at the Christian names, for instance, i.e. "Jone_John". "John" is also defined in the religious names for Christians. AFAIK this means that the Basque version of the name will only occur if the character is born a Christian.

I hope what you said can be implemented, because then that'll create a new dynamic for the Visigoths who were both Christian and Muslim. Or in a simple way, we could just put both Christian and Muslim names to one list.

Although this might be awkward when your Christian Visigothic king is named Mohamed

 

[Dakilla TM]

I've added a few names to the French list and fixed some typos for the cultures. I have not added the newer cultures you posted as of last time, but the ones before like Roman and Portuguese names and such are on there. Feel free to add your newer list to it.

Here's also the changes I've made for fixing minor details on landed titles.

 

[Dakilla TM]

For the cultures, I found some spelling mistakes and changed up some of the base names, like using _Calixtus rather than _Callisto for the base name. I think using the Anglisized Latin versions of these names makes it easier to use as a base, like _Justin rather than _Iustinus.

I've added translations for some Italian names you missed like Giulio/Giolio_Julius, Giovanni_John, Giordano_Jordan, just to name a few. Fixed some misspellings here and there and capitalized some names as well.

Also added Jules, Constantin, and Justin to the French list. All translated.

Translated the name "Ademar" for French, Occitan, and Portuguese cultures.

Added the name "Orso" to the Italian list, translated to Ursus as a base. Lombards have the name Ursus which can translate well since they flip to Italian.

Added "Peter" to the Lombard name list, mainly due to many Lombards in 769 are named Peter (originally not in the list) rather than Petrus(in this list by default and translated), which messes up regnal numbering unless the history files are changed.

Added translation for the Suebi name Vermund_Vermudo.

I have not added any new cultures you've posted, so when you post the update, put yours in there. If I missed a fix let me know.


EDIT: Also edit the localization file. The empress title translation for Italian is not capitalized. I fixed it on my end but since the file is an excel file, I can't upload it here.

 

[killerbee256]

Okay I'm going through them now and combining them. In the process I founds a few more Latin forums of italian names: Bassiano, Basso from Bassianus, Bassus respectively.

 

[Dakilla TM]

Okay I'm going through them now and combining them. In the process I founds a few more Latin forums of italian names: Bassiano, Basso from Bassianus, Bassus respectively.

Perfect. I think maybe the next big part could be English, since that list barely has anything. Castillian could use some extra names, as well as Basque. The Celtic cultures have plenty so that'll be left alone. I'll do some digging for more medieval English names and post my findings here. I'm also thinking of adding more Christian names to Levantine.

If you would like to post an update, go ahead. This one will be big since it changes the history files of Roman Emperors.