Well looks like I'll have some adjustments to make in the landed_titles file when the next patch comes out.
[mod] More dynamic cultural names
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AFAIK it is possible, yes. Take a look at the Christian names, for instance, i.e. "Jone_John". "John" is also defined in the religious names for Christians. AFAIK this means that the Basque version of the name will only occur if the character is born a Christian.
If I might suggest:
using a localization file for the dynamics instead of landed_titles but you'll also be able to added dynamic adjectives. Another benefit is that your mod would be compatible with other mods.
using a localization file for the dynamics instead of landed_titles but you'll also be able to added dynamic adjectives. Another benefit is that your mod would be compatible with other mods.
An issue I found mainly dealing with the ERE. Since you've updated the Roman name list to be the Latin versions of the names, like Hadrianus instead of Adrian, some of the regnal numbering for the ERE gets messed up. Like in the game files, the emperor Adrian is named as "Adrian", which is not on the Roman culture name list. Thus later on, when a Greek Adrianos comes along, Adrianos doesn't become Adrian/Adrianos II.
The proposed fix for this is to change the Roman emperor names in the list of Roman characters to their Latin versions. So vanilla Adrian will be changed to "Hadrianus". The list for the historical characters can be found in the game files under Crusader Kings 2, history(folder), and the folder has a list of each culture with it's historical rulers. Look for the Roman one and then edit, and it should be good to go.
The proposed fix for this is to change the Roman emperor names in the list of Roman characters to their Latin versions. So vanilla Adrian will be changed to "Hadrianus". The list for the historical characters can be found in the game files under Crusader Kings 2, history(folder), and the folder has a list of each culture with it's historical rulers. Look for the Roman one and then edit, and it should be good to go.
Have you also changed all the Pope names to Latin? Otherwise that's a QOL improvement too.
Yes I did that a while ago, for both fraticelli and catholic, so popes have proper Latin names thought I haven't done it in the history files yet.
Question who is the roman history file referring to in this one:
7772 = {
name="Hilary"
religion="catholic"
culture="roman"
trait="diligent"
trait="patient"
trait="zealous"
trait="charismatic_negotiator"
400.1.1 = {
birth="400.1.1"
}
440.8.18 = {
name="Leo"
# AKA: Hilary
}
461.11.10 = {
death="461.11.10"
}
}
name="Hilary"
religion="catholic"
culture="roman"
trait="diligent"
trait="patient"
trait="zealous"
trait="charismatic_negotiator"
400.1.1 = {
birth="400.1.1"
}
440.8.18 = {
name="Leo"
# AKA: Hilary
}
461.11.10 = {
death="461.11.10"
}
}
I've also edited the landed titles file, mainly things like capitalizing the title names. I've also added a German and Dutch name for the Papacy, since these cultures had Popes too.
I'll post the changes later, I need to go through the files again to make sure I've covered mostly everything.
I'll post the changes later, I need to go through the files again to make sure I've covered mostly everything.
What I meant was in the history files. When that isn't done popes with Latin names won't get the right numbering.
That's Leo I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_I
Would they really have used a non Latin name? I've always had the Papal States solely be in Latin, since anything else seems wrong. We are talking about the Papacy after all---the entity which still today uses Latin.
I think the answer to your question is more completed then one would think. While the papacy was in Avignon it was more orientated toward French than Latin. However Avignon was in a Occitan speaking area under the influence of the France king.
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For official and diplomatic purposes, they 100% would have used the Latin name. But this mod adds the vernacular name for the realm
I'm just not sure that the nobility and burghers ever would have used a vernacular name for the Papal States---at least for Catholics (and possibly Orthodox too) due to it's special importance.
But it's cool to see "The Papacy" being renamed "Etat Pontificaux" when there's a French pope!
True. I'm just not sure how realistic it is due to the special position of the papacy. And for instance seeing it called "Pavestaten" should a Danish pope reign in Rome seems wrong.
I'm thinking of giving k_Italy a Lombard name to by pass the current bug with Lombardy being renamed to Italy in the 769 start, the problem is there isn't much information on the Germanic Lombard language. From what I've read it seems like it was some where between Old High German and Gothic. For now perhaps Langobardenreich or Langobarden?
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@n00bypl4y3r hadn't you studied Lombard too?
I don't know a word Lombard though so can't say anything specifically as to what they would have called it.
Probably Reich over no Reich, since Reich signals not just ruling the Lombards, but other people's too. Though it might also have been a variation of the "our people + land" which many Germanic tribes/peoples used---Deutschland being an example of that. It literally is something like "our people's land".
I don't know a word Lombard though so can't say anything specifically as to what they would have called it.
Basically no Lombardic exists, there are only names and reconstructions. This is the beginning of the Lay of Hildebrand in reconstructed Lombardic
It's a West Germanic language, probably somewhere between Old Saxon and Old High German. That said, there is no information as to what the Lombards called their region in their Germanic language. By the time any of that would have been recorded they used Latin instead, their language having long since died. Hence, the most accurate name for the Lombardic Kingdom would be something like "Regnum Langobardorum"
Neither are particularly accurate for what Lombardic probably looked like, especially not "reich."
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Not familiar at all with the Lombard language, but keeping the vanilla "Lombardy" or "Langobardorum" would work well enough in my book.
PS: The same thing has to be done for Avaria, which is currently called Hungary in 769. My fix would be Avaria for Avars, Pannonia for everyone else, Hungary/Magyar name equivalent for Hungarians, and maybe a variant for Croatian and Bohemian. The same can be done for Carpathia.