[MOD] Lux Invicta

[Numahr]

I am at work, I will not be able to look at the game for the day. I looked at the file, I don't find any glitch there... Other religious conversions in game were OK so far... Also note that event 664350141 necessarily occurs at the beginning of the game to give the Tengri-Rod modifiers to starting provinces, without crushing the game - so the event does not mechanically crush the game, but only in a specific context.

So I wonder where the problem comes from. Things that should be tested to identify the problem:
- start the game as a Rod Tengri character to see how the event unfolds at game start
- does it happen with other religions? (any other 664350xxx event coded in)
- does this happen only after a heresy spread event?
- could it be that the event 664350141 (flagging the new religion) is OK but event 664351161 (cleansing the previous religious modifier, in this case Tengri Ahriman I guess) crashes the game?

If anything, I would like to look at the save game toonight: keytool, I sent you my email address by PM.

Edit: event 664350141 code:

province_event = {
    id = 664350141
	desc = "EVTDESC664350141"
	picture = GFX_evt_bishop
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_religion

	trigger = {
	        religion = tengri_rod
		    NOT = { has_province_flag = province_tengri_rod }

	}	
	        
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		days = 2
	}
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA664350141"
		set_province_flag = province_tengri_rod
		add_province_modifier = {
			name = province_tengri_rod
			duration = -1
		}
	}
}

 

[Shaytana]

I am at work, I will not be able to look at the game for the day. I looked at the file, I don't find any glitch there... Other religious conversions in game were OK so far... Also note that event 664350141 necessarily occurs at the beginning of the game to give the Tengri-Rod modifiers to starting provinces, without crushing the game - so the event does not mechanically crush the game, but only in a specific context.

So I wonder where the problem comes from. Things that should be tested to identify the problem:
- start the game as a Rod Tengri character to see how the event unfolds at game start
- does it happen with other religions? (any other 664350xxx event coded in)
- does this happen only after a heresy spread event?
- could it be that the event 664350141 (flagging the new religion) is OK but event 664351161 (cleansing the previous religious modifier, in this case Tengri Ahriman I guess) crashes the game?

If anything, I would like to look at the save game toonight: keytool, I sent you my email address by PM.

Edit: event 664350141 code:

province_event = {
    id = 664350141
	desc = "EVTDESC664350141"
	picture = GFX_evt_bishop
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_religion

	trigger = {
	        religion = tengri_rod
		    NOT = { has_province_flag = province_tengri_rod }

	}	
	        
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		days = 2
	}
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA664350141"
		set_province_flag = province_tengri_rod
		add_province_modifier = {
			name = province_tengri_rod
			duration = -1
		}
	}
}

Loading the game up as Huns and firing that event results in a crash... firing another of your similar events (I tried a few at random) does not. It's very strange because yes I see nothing wrong with the event per se. Might be some localisation issue? Probably not.

 

[Shaytana]

I think I'm going to fast forward the timeline today a bit, at least get to 700. I want to finish posting the official timeline to 1066 asap. (not today) After the official "canon" timeline is posted I can then finish the setup reflecting the timeline. I can always modify it slightly in logical fashion in the future if something really interesting can be added.

 

[Leoric Braich]

Well, it can't hurt to look to see if its an issue in the localisation files. if it is then it shouldn't be that hard to fix. Would just require where exactly the file is and what the issue entails. It might be a simple coding error with the event.

 

[Shaytana]

Well, it can't hurt to look to see if its an issue in the localisation files. if it is then it shouldn't be that hard to fix. Would just require where exactly the file is and what the issue entails. It might be a simple coding error with the event.

Yep. Hopefully Numahr figures it out till tonight. If he can't or doesn't have time, I'll just remove the event from tonight's update. (I might post at least a fix update tonight - if nothing else.)

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Now that we have gallo Romans could we have a titular Gallic empire for roman culture only?

 

[softsponge]

Looking forward to some Sarmato-British Artorian action

 

[Shaytana]

@Bad_Haggis

No because you have a dejure Empire of Gallia... I mean it would be very strange to be Emperor of Gallia and Gallic Empire same time... even if the Gallic Empire was a cross channel entity.

@softsponge

I will most likely rework Britannia by the end of the week.

 

[Bad_Haggis]

@Bad_Haggis

No because you have a dejure Empire of Gallia... I mean it would be very strange to be Emperor of Gallia and Gallic Empire same time... even if the Gallic Empire was a cross channel entity.

@softsponge

I will most likely rework Britannia by the end of the week.

Yeah, I just realised o,

 

[Shaytana]

I am thinking of renaming Britanny to Armorica... I'm having major second thoughts about it though.

 

[unmerged(271387)]

I am thinking of renaming Britanny to Armorica... I'm having major second thoughts about it though.

Oh god.At first i read America instead of Armorica and i thought"wtf u crazy?"

 

[Shaytana]

Nah, although I wish the map extended to America... or at least Vinland could be errrr brought in the map area unnaturaly and provide for a Norse stomping ground.

I am thinking of maybe putting in a few counts, descending from famous dynasties (and implementing those dynasties). If I do it I most likely won't give them customized dna or custom dynastic coas though.

I've done a rushjob of updating the timeline to 641 CE. I am going to blitz through stuff in concise fashion to finish explaining the setup faster. I can post more detailed stuff later anyway.

I've updated the timeline to 672 CE... very concise but at least it explains the major points.

 

[Jarp]

Amazing mod. Just a quick mention though - in the latest build, Samogita and Zemigallians have no culture.

 

[Shaytana]

Amazing mod. Just a quick mention though - in the latest build, Samogita and Zemigallians have no culture.

Wooooooooooah! Thank you for reporting! I will fix it asap for next version.

 

[Tsar Monarchist]

Hey, I've (finally!) played your mod, and I want to say it's a great concept.

Though, as I am usually playing Slavs, I would like to give you some suggests about it. It's somewhat hard if I don't know, how did the alternative history happen there, but they still might help with accuracy in there. I hope you will find it useful.

- Poland:

Those 4 duchies are good, but the only new dynasty you added is 'Siemowit' from Kuyavia, and the rest of it left as it was in vanilla. But to be fair with history of the region, Piasts should rule in Greater Poland rather than Poraj - they might rule i.e. in Kuyavia instead, or just leave them in Kalisz as counts/knyazs.
Also, it would be nice if you would rename current Piast ruler from Dobrogost to something else, maybe Swietopelk, if not Boleslaw (but actually, why not? I know it came from Bohemia with marriage of Mieszko I and Dubravka, but couldn't it also happen in here?).

In Lesser Poland then, it would be nice to see some legendary dynasty, other than Piast. Of course legends are about whole Poland, not only it's parts, so couple of things were misunderstood. But that's why we have history!

There are two known forms of names of our country: western name of Polonia/Poland, coming from tribe of Polans (territory of Greater Poland), and south-eastern Lechites (hungarian 'Lengyel', lithuanian 'Lenkas', also 'Lechoi' known in Constantinople), probably coming from Lendizi (eastern Poland, maybe Lesser or east of it; unknown connections with Wislanians/Vistulans, that were dependant from Great Moravia). But our country happened, when Polans started its expansion. And so Mieszko I (descendant of legendary Piast) was the first ruler of united Poland. Without it, it would be hard to call whole our country "Poland".

So, the problem is - it probably didn't happen in your scenario, as I see. I won't say anything about de iure kingdom of 'Polonia' because I can't give you any alternative name for it. And possibility to create it is good for me, even if it might be done not only by Polans
But back to the topic. There can't be Greater or Lesser Poland without Poland. Even in real history those name were used very lately, and usually only to describe lands in geography. So maybe you could use those tribe names -> duchy of Poland as G.Poland and duchy of Vistula/Krakow as L.Poland.

And because Piast ruled in Gniezno (or Poznan, it's disputable), so his dynasty can't rule Krakow. Instead we have other legendary rulers - Lech and Krak.
1) Lech is known from legend of three brothers: Lech (as founder of Gniezno and Poland), Czech and Rus (similar )
2) Krak (Wikipedia) was (probably) his descendant, founder and ruler in Krakow.
There are various versions of legends in different chronicles.

I think that it could be "Lechita" (or "Lechid") dynasty, with ruler named Krak, Lech or Leszek. You didn't implement historical characters, so I won't discuss about his predecessors. But that is also why Krak should be, as typical for this dynasty only, while Leszek is already in polish culture names (and Lech in pomeranian, so you might add it to polish).

- Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia

Great you have added Mojmirids and Samonids. But Nyitra is de iure part of Hungaria, and Moravia is part of K.Bohemia. As you might know (because you added those dynasties) that there were two bigger slavic countries in this region - created by Samo in 7th century, and Great Moravia in 9th. Second one even made Avars dependant. You didn't add any king-tier title related to it, even titular.

As I said before, I don't know what happened in there in your history*, but some possibility to create some bigger country in there, other than K.Bohemia, really should be. If there wasn't Great Moravia before, and I guess it wasn't (see below), it's OK. But I think that player should have a chance to do it by himself.

* I can only guess, that Samo created his country (as Samonids exist), but there wasn't any Great Moravia (Samonids rule in Nyitra and Avars are still strong).

So maybe you could add a titular title, creatable if player controls both Moravia and Nyitra.
I don't ask for de iure, because it might be troublesome. Kingdom of Bohemia should still be available I think, but don't know if you would like reducing it to single duchy. But even if so, there would be problem with de iure empires. Nyitra outside of Pannonia, or Moravia inside? Rather not.

Next thing - could you please change some names? Two Vratislavs in region is too much, and Otakar Mojmirid (german name) is rather odd for me. Maybe 'Rostislav' or 'Mojmír' for Mojmirid, and 'Svatopluk' for Samonid instead?


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And other thought -> I'd love to see earlier start date than 1066. Maybe it was mentioned before, I didn't check. But if it would be just 966, it would be perfect for me. I know it's a huge change and probably lot of work...

 

[Numahr]

Hotfix sent to Shaytana

 

[keytool]

My succession laws are a little messed up. I've only had gravelkind so far, and if my elder daughters die then their children are next in line to inherit, not any of my sons or their children. I've noticed that its also been happening to the A.I. and many sons are passed over completely over the elder daughter's children, and this is with the succession laws of gravelkind agnatic and gravelkind agantic-cognatic


Edit: AND BEING ILL IS OP, I've had 5 rulers now that died before 25 because of illness

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Plus could we add Roman family names to the Gallo-Roman culture, ATM there are only two surnames.

 

[CrackdToothGrin]

Edit: AND BEING ILL IS OP, I've had 5 rulers now that died before 25 because of illness

Illness was pretty serious in the time before medicine. Historical population growth world-wide during the game's time frame amounts to around only 2.3 people/thousand being born over the death rate (after considering the Medieval Warm Period, Black Death, and combat, which means this figure fluctuates widely depending on where and when you're looking).

 

[LordStark]

Illness was pretty serious in the time before medicine. Historical population growth world-wide during the game's time frame amounts to around only 2.3 people/thousand being born over the death rate (after considering the Medieval Warm Period, Black Death, and combat, which means this figure fluctuates widely depending on where and when you're looking).

I agree ... we had a discussion on this subject earlier in the thread, and most of us seemed to have decided we like higher disease mortality, as it is vastly more accurate for the time.