[MOD] Lux Invicta

[futuregary]

It's getting added eventually. History work is tedious work.

Amen to that.

 

[jmberry]

It's getting added eventually. History work is tedious work.

I didn't want you to feel obligated, I just would have liked confirmation somebody saw it.

On that note, would it be better if a started a separate thread for this? That way it wouldn't detract from the m,ore important mechanical discussions.

 

[richvh]

That would make it easier to find them.

 

[Summercat]

Have played a few games of LI with a newer SVN. Haven't noticed any slowdown.

Two things;

1) There's no Mali Empire?

2) "We learned things in battle" seems to proc fairly often; even when it's already proc'd.

 

[DarkReborn]

1) There's no Mali Empire?

Mali's getting a de-jure empire in the map expansion (IIRC).

2) "We learned things in battle" seems to proc fairly often; even when it's already proc'd.

I'll look into it, but I believe it's triggering at vanilla rates.

 

[riknap]

Mali's getting a de-jure empire in the map expansion (IIRC).



I'll look into it, but I believe it's triggering at vanilla rates.

IIRC, I tweaked it so that it triggers more often, but the effect is shorter-lasting. That or I did the opposite and forgot to stabilize the MTTH @_@

 

[futuregary]

I didn't want you to feel obligated, I just would have liked confirmation somebody saw it.

On that note, would it be better if a started a separate thread for this? That way it wouldn't detract from the m,ore important mechanical discussions.

Indeed. DarkReborn added the Artorian line already, the others will be added relatively soon. If not now, they'll be in the expansion.

Mali's getting a de-jure empire in the map expansion (IIRC).

At least one de jure empire down there.

 

[richvh]

A lot of new religions referenced in events/jobs_lord_spiritual.txt have not yet been added to common/religions:

Spoiler

--- Error 1 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 241, column 6):
"anansi" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 2 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 245, column 6):
"batembuzi" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 3 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 249, column 6):
"bon" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 4 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 250, column 6):
"bud_zen" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 5 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 256, column 6):
"confucian" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 6 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 260, column 6):
"dionysos" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 7 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 262, column 6):
"endovellico" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 8 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 263, column 6):
"erlik" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 9 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 270, column 6):
"hadad" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 10 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 277, column 6):
"imana" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 11 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 279, column 6):
"indoh_confucian" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 12 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 283, column 6):
"inuit_pagan" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 13 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 294, column 6):
"kintu" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 14 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 295, column 6):
"kothar" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 15 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 296, column 6):
"kubera" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 16 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 297, column 6):
"lubu" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 17 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 301, column 6):
"makonde_pagan" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 18 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 318, column 6):
"murugan" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 19 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 319, column 6):
"mwari" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 20 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 320, column 6):
"nasrani" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 21 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 325, column 6):
"nott" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 22 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 326, column 6):
"nyame" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 23 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 327, column 6):
"nyasaye" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 24 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 328, column 6):
"nyau" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 25 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 343, column 6):
"saura" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 26 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 365, column 6):
"tao" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 27 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 377, column 6):
"vidharma" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 28 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 379, column 6):
"waaq" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 29 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 391, column 6):
"zulu_pagan" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 30 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 400, column 6):
"bantu_pagan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 31 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 402, column 6):
"bon_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 32 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 407, column 6):
"erlik_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 33 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 412, column 6):
"iberian_pagan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 34 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 415, column 6):
"inuit_pagan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 35 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 419, column 6):
"kubera_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 36 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 420, column 6):
"lubu_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 37 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 425, column 6):
"murugan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 38 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 426, column 6):
"nasrani_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 39 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 430, column 6):
"nyakalagan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 40 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 432, column 6):
"saura_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 41 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 439, column 6):
"tao_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 42 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 442, column 6):
"tengri_confucian_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 43 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 447, column 6):
"vidharma_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 44 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\location\OR\religion] (Line 451, column 6):
"zulu_pagan_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 45 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 179, column 5):
"bud_bahusrutiya" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 46 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 180, column 5):
"bud_mahayana" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 47 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 181, column 5):
"bud_pratyeka" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 48 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 182, column 5):
"bud_pureland" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 49 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 183, column 5):
"bud_sthaviravada" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 50 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 184, column 5):
"bud_vajrayana" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 51 of 51 ---
At <mod>\events\job_lord_spiritual.txt [character_event\mean_time_to_happen\modifier\OR\religion] (Line 211, column 5):
"bud_zen_reformed" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.

 

[richvh]

--- Error 1 of 2 ---
At <mod>\events\SELIN_events.txt [province_event\trigger\NOT\religion] (Line 1316, column 11):
"bektashi" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.
--- Error 2 of 2 ---
At <mod>\events\SELIN_events.txt [province_event\trigger\religion] (Line 1289, column 3):
"bektashi" is not a valid Religion or ThisChar, ThisProv, or ThisTitle.

Bektashi has a really low number in the SELIN events, so I'm guessing the tag got changed to something else, but what?

 

[DarkReborn]

I'm guessing FG added those in anticipation of his map expansion... so I'd say he's holding off on adding the religions until the expansion, or until he completes them (which is the best course of action, the copy he sent to me the religions were barebones)

Have played a few games of LI with a newer SVN. Haven't noticed any slowdown.

Forgot to ask a question about this; how many years have you played? I'd like to know because I introduced a few maintenance events to solve the slowdown, and I'd like to know if they're working properly.

 

[Summercat]

Forgot to ask a question about this; how many years have you played? I'd like to know because I introduced a few maintenance events to solve the slowdown, and I'd like to know if they're working properly.

No more than 20/30, tbh, but that's where I noticed the slowdowns starting beforehand.

I'm kinda impatient with all the things right now, but I'll *try* to get a game to the 100 year mark and see how things go.

 

[DarkReborn]

No more than 20/30, tbh, but that's where I noticed the slowdowns starting beforehand.

I'm kinda impatient with all the things right now, but I'll *try* to get a game to the 100 year mark and see how things go.

Nice, thank you. We really need this kind of tests and they're very time consuming to some members of the team.

Also, did you have any crashes or were the 20-30 years continuous, without CTDs?

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BTW: I'm trying to give each (integrated) BLC gfx culture an unique look, other than just different coloured clothing for each, so I'm starting with the Saxons (mainly because there are way too many Saxon 3d models in my personal repository, so many, that I could stop a train with them)

After many ( and I mean way too many) redos of the Saxon royal/marshal helm (so I can replace that mask they wear now, which was a ceremonial burial mask; it would be akin to an Ancient Egyptian ruler running around with a golden burial mask-piece), I've gone with the same idea as the Saxon unit pack DLC and gave them late roman style ridge helms:

Too big? Too small? Badly positioned? Leave all you criticism here.

 

[Summercat]

Nice, thank you. We really need this kind of tests and they're very time consuming to some members of the team.

Also, did you have any crashes or were the 20-30 years continuous, without CTDs?

I don't recall the last CTD I had from LI since I switched to the SVN that's not a vanilla issue, IE if I alt-tab too often.

 

[DarkReborn]

I don't recall the last CTD I had from LI since I switched to the SVN that's not a vanilla issue, IE if I alt-tab too often.

That's good. Nice to know the nights I spent debugging might have solved off the CTD crisis.

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Another random aesthetic survey: I'm thiking in making a more traditional a more early Byzantine/Laet Eastern Roman gfx culture instead of their actual Diadochoi era inspired one (which would be limited to... Hellen culture as, it should). How would everyone feel about that? I've some resources on Byzantine clothing that might come in handy in this situation.

 

[jmberry]

Thanks, I only need name lists, though with proper dating and such I'll code the characters myself (unless you guys want to have a try at it).

@tsf4: How about you start with the Ptolemies? We already have a full Seleukid list, so it's only proper that the other big Diadokhoi family gets a proper ruler list. Keep in mind that there are a whole lot of Ptolemaic branches in Nubia and Ethiopia, one comes from Caesarion (Ptolemy Caesarion in Meroe), one of Cleopatra's sons with Marc Anthony (Ptolemy Antonius in Nobatia) and with a local Ethopic Solomonid prince, I guess (Solomon Ptolemy in Shewa). I know the Ptolemies at Kyrene are also a cadet branch, of who though, I have not a clue. If you want an easier time, you can start with a direct tree from Ptolemy I to the ruler of Kyrene (Apollonios), and then we'll worry about the cadet branches.
Or you could really start wherever you want, this is just a suggestion.

@jmberry: You seem like an expert on British history, so I guess you can start with Britain indeed. Post that list of Powys rulers, and I guess you can start from there to the rest of the Island. A nice thing would be to finally see the 3 Artorian lines (Artorius of Cornovia, Artorius of Dyfed and Pendragon of Brythonia) finally united. You can also tackle the convoluted Saxon dynasties if you want to.

For the record, it was Ptolemy VI Philometor

EDIT: Also, that Saxon looks really good.

 

[futuregary]

A lot of new religions referenced in events/jobs_lord_spiritual.txt have not yet been added to common/religions

Yeah, DarkReborn is right; I've got all the religions up and running in my revision but to avoid compatibility issues with the head revision, I've elected to refrain from uploading the rest of the new religions until the expansion. However, right now SELIN is being updated and for simplicity's sake I uploaded a couple of files as a whole rather than just the parts that are in the game right now.

Unless they're causing mix-up issues, I'd ask that you please leave them be, since it would save more work in the future

Bektashi has a really low number in the SELIN events, so I'm guessing the tag got changed to something else, but what?

Yeahhhh... Bektashi's out.

It was originally sidelined so it could be improved upon and maybe introduced as an emergent religion later on in the game. It's still possible for that to happen, but not right now. Currently, it's just getting in the way.

 

[Tabris01]

Wouldn't it make sense to give the "Well respected ruler" modifier an opinion bonus?

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

Nice, thank you. We really need this kind of tests and they're very time consuming to some members of the team.

Also, did you have any crashes or were the 20-30 years continuous, without CTDs?

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BTW: I'm trying to give each (integrated) BLC gfx culture an unique look, other than just different coloured clothing for each, so I'm starting with the Saxons (mainly because there are way too many Saxon 3d models in my personal repository, so many, that I could stop a train with them)

After many ( and I mean way too many) redos of the Saxon royal/marshal helm (so I can replace that mask they wear now, which was a ceremonial burial mask; it would be akin to an Ancient Egyptian ruler running around with a golden burial mask-piece), I've gone with the same idea as the Saxon unit pack DLC and gave them late roman style ridge helms:

Too big? Too small? Badly positioned? Leave all you criticism here.

That's nice. I like it. And I think the position is OK.

By the way, maybe Vesi and other Mediterranean-based Germanic peoples need a bit of rework, because right now they're wearing a lot of fur and Viking clothing, and I can't possibly imagine someone wearing those robes on August in the Mediterranean.

 

[DarkReborn]

By the way, maybe Vesi and other Mediterranean-based Germanic peoples need a bit of rework, because right now they're wearing a lot of fur and Viking clothing, and I can't possibly imagine someone wearing those robes on August in the Mediterranean.

That's something I'm holding off until getting to the Eastern Romans (just the Rhomaioi, basically). To be honest, I don't know if making the Visigoth (and other Mediterranean Germans like the Vandals) attires more Germanic or more Roman.

But yeah, the furs should be confined to the Continental Germans like the Thiudiscas.

 

[Roald]

Thanks very much!