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It shouldnt be religion, after all im tengri ahrimanic, have over 1k gold, authority, and piety, and only make 15.57 yearly gold.
want to follow the same route TZER took and upload your save-game and maybe a couple of screnshots? Granted, I can't look at your save-game now though (university classes).
 

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None of the events from childhood_personality_traits_events.txt seem to be firing at all. It's possible that the events from Childhood_Events_1.txt are firing fast enough so the check on Personality Traits is activating, but I would think to have seen something after 60 years.

The only event that I ever see as a guardian is one where the kid drinks wine rather than grape juice. Two possible responses, one to punish, and one to laugh at it. Both give just -10 opinion to the child. I get this one fairly frequently, so there could be something wrong with it. No idea what event file it's in unfortunately.

Also, Generic Events. Haven't noticed one of those firing for me ever either.

Edit: Pressing a Claim is still triggering both the AOW and ROW, this one's a weak claim.
 
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argh lol its really difficult to survive very long as a patrician, and not from war just from the random events, i keep ending up a child without any rule and just restarting again xD

i have tried five times now and i haven't been able to survive past the first 10 years
 
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Hey guys - I didn't know what this icon is ... it just says "icon" and has build-time modifier (negative), and small reductions in levies. It is the first icon on the left. It came right with "province is ____ religion" events.

Is this a bug?

 

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Hey guys - I didn't know what this icon is ... it just says "icon" and has build-time modifier (negative), and small reductions in levies. It is the first icon on the left. It came right with "province is ____ religion" events.

Is this a bug?

your attachment link is bonked, so we can't see what you're trying to show...
in any case, I think I' guessing that it's a SELIN modifier gone wrong.
can you screenshot the province in question and highlight the province modifier while you're at it?

None of the events from childhood_personality_traits_events.txt seem to be firing at all. It's possible that the events from Childhood_Events_1.txt are firing fast enough so the check on Personality Traits is activating, but I would think to have seen something after 60 years.

The only event that I ever see as a guardian is one where the kid drinks wine rather than grape juice. Two possible responses, one to punish, and one to laugh at it. Both give just -10 opinion to the child. I get this one fairly frequently, so there could be something wrong with it. No idea what event file it's in unfortunately.

Also, Generic Events. Haven't noticed one of those firing for me ever either.

Edit: Pressing a Claim is still triggering both the AOW and ROW, this one's a weak claim.

odd. I'll need to investigate that when I get back. It's possible I accidentally bonked the on_action triggers.
the AOW/ROW still triggering is just plain ... I-have-no-idea-why though. Can you experiment and try to see if using any of the "just" CB's trigger BOTH of them as well?
using_cb = overthrow_ruler
using_cb = depose_liege
using_cb = decadence_invasion
using_cb = bid_for_independence
using_cb = cb_faction_independence
using_cb = crusade
using_cb = sacred_war
using_cb = conversion_war
If using those CBs only trigger ROW, while other CBs trigger both, I think I can pin down the problem.
btw, you are using the updated compatch right? I tried editing the ROW/AOW coding there.

Here ya go screenshot and autosave 1 year after giving myself all the gold, authority, and piety. (Ignore the MASSIVE trait bloat there 1st game ever played since getting the Ruler Designer, and I may have gone a little overboard with it)

View attachment 78657View attachment 78658

thanks. I'll give it a run when I get home.
 
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your attachment link is bonked, so we can't see what you're trying to show...
in any case, I think I' guessing that it's a SELIN modifier gone wrong.
can you screenshot the province in question and highlight the province modifier while you're at it?



odd. I'll need to investigate that when I get back. It's possible I accidentally bonked the on_action triggers.
the AOW/ROW still triggering is just plain ... I-have-no-idea-why though. Can you experiment and try to see if using any of the "just" CB's trigger BOTH of them as well?
using_cb = overthrow_ruler
using_cb = depose_liege
using_cb = decadence_invasion
using_cb = bid_for_independence
using_cb = cb_faction_independence
using_cb = crusade
using_cb = sacred_war
using_cb = conversion_war
If using those CBs only trigger ROW, while other CBs trigger both, I think I can pin down the problem.
btw, you are using the updated compatch right? I tried editing the ROW/AOW coding there.



thanks. I'll give it a run when I get home.

WHOOPS! I didn't see the new Com Patch, was using the older one. Sacred War is functioning as it should be right now, and since it was broken when using the older patch it MAY be fixed. I'll see if I can't find a new claim war to press and check that with the new version.

Edit: After testing, pressing a regular claim (not de jure), whether yours or a court member's/vassal's (again, not de jure claim) results in a ROW, not AOW. Expansion wars, Conquest CBs, and de jure wars trigger just AOW as they should.

I'm not sure that anything needs to be changed from this situation. You can rationalize it as the people supporting your just claim (fabricated or not :p), and backing the "Rightful Heir" to some other throne is obviously the honorable thing to do!

Edit^2: I noticed that I haven't triggered the Event to choose my Blue Martial Path thingy yet, despite having the Level 3 structure in my Capitol. I only noticed this because the Isaurians have the same level Tradition Structure, and he has it. NO idea what's causing this.
 
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Here ya go, Riknap -

I took a few more screenshots to document the "icon". I don't think its SELIN, as all of the religious stuff is working. It almost seems like a "bad ruler" modifier?

View attachment 78675View attachment 78676

* Sorry for the small size - upload thingy wouldn't take anything normal size.
 

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WHOOPS! I didn't see the new Com Patch, was using the older one. Sacred War is functioning as it should be right now, and since it was broken when using the older patch it MAY be fixed. I'll see if I can't find a new claim war to press and check that with the new version.

Edit: After testing, pressing a regular claim (not de jure), whether yours or a court member's/vassal's (again, not de jure claim) results in a ROW, not AOW. Expansion wars, Conquest CBs, and de jure wars trigger just AOW as they should.

I'm not sure that anything needs to be changed from this situation. You can rationalize it as the people supporting your just claim (fabricated or not :p), and backing the "Rightful Heir" to some other throne is obviously the honorable thing to do!

Edit^2: I noticed that I haven't triggered the Event to choose my Blue Martial Path thingy yet, despite having the Level 3 structure in my Capitol. I only noticed this because the Isaurians have the same level Tradition Structure, and he has it. NO idea what's causing this.

I'll need to review the event file system Novaneko gave. He started editing it some time ago, but ran busy IRL and gave me a "draft". I just pasted that over and hoped for the best :laugh:
I guess I'll need to look at it more closely. *haaaa*

As for the claim modifiers, maybe I'll make a third type of modifier specifically for claim wars. I'll call it "Rightful Offensive War", and hopefully people won't notice the difference with "Righteous Offensive War" :laugh:
Kidding aside, I'll need to experiment on why that's happening first. Of course, it's possible that claim wars are actually the "overthrow_ruler" CB but simply use "Claim War" as the localisation string. If that's so, then that's quite devious of Paradox. Now that I think about it, I haven't noticed the excommunication CB. I might want to touch that a bit :laugh:

Here ya go, Riknap -

I took a few more screenshots to document the "icon". I don't think its SELIN, as all of the religious stuff is working. It almost seems like a "bad ruler" modifier?

View attachment 78675View attachment 78676

* Sorry for the small size - upload thingy wouldn't take anything normal size.

"what is this, a screenshot for ants?"
:rofl:

in any case, the first screenshot seems to be a province modifier, and based on the mix of red and greens I'd say that's a SELIN modifier. Of course, I could determine for sure, but my "CSI Enhance" software license expired 1 reality ago, so I can't determine for sure.
as for the second screenshot, it looks like a green icon that gives red maluses. a negative build time modifier should technically be green, so I'm assuming that's a build time INCREASE. As you noted levy maluses, the only modifier that I know (and I did) that combines the two is the Aggressive Offensive War, which triggers if you use certain CBs - except it should also come with a tax and morale malus btw.

Now, I could be able to help more, but you'd need to provide more details, either via text/(legible)screenshots/savegames. I'm guessing you're over your attachment limit, so that's why you can't upload larger/more-normal-sized photos.
Go to your attachment settings (clicky clicky)and delete some stuff if that's what's causing it.

then we can talk with more sense :laugh:

argh lol its really difficult to survive very long as a patrician, and not from war just from the random events, i keep ending up a child without any rule and just restarting again xD

i have tried five times now and i haven't been able to survive past the first 10 years

what do you mean "as a child without any rule"?
I'd appreciate further clarification, since I've been rather ignoring patrician balance for some time now. How is it hard now, and how do you think it could be improved?

Here ya go screenshot and autosave 1 year after giving myself all the gold, authority, and piety. (Ignore the MASSIVE trait bloat there 1st game ever played since getting the Ruler Designer, and I may have gone a little overboard with it)

Ruler Designer users really love trait bloat :laugh:
I'll experiment with your file within half an hour or so. Let me just watch an episode or two of something first :p
 

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It's whoever made so many traits for this mod faults in the first place! All those traits... so shiny....
blame ash's FF for that. though granted, a set of traits are cybrxkhan's VIET's fault, and others ibid's tPatT's fault :laugh:
 

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Hey guys, I have been trying to play this mod for awhile now. Not that I can't play, just not much. After a while of playing the game (a good 50 or so years) just crashes for me. I have 1.092 clean (mods are modfoldered, the main files are not tampered with) Does anyone else experience this? I have added required lines to defines.lua but do I need to do anything additional to get the mod compatible?
 

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okay, regarding CB's

first, I think I might need to edit the Total War coding by copying vanilla coding. Right now, it's only valid against (independent) counts. I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking when I copied outdated code sections or something. In any case, the proper conditions it should work, aside from fulfilling stock conditions, are:
a) the target is not of your religious group
b) target is "neighbouring or 2 coastal zones away" - I'll be simply plagiarizing vanilla code since I don't have a good grasp of the way the holy war code of vanilla works. or rather, I'd rather not spend an hour studying it for now :laugh:
if you're interested though, here's the relevant code I'm talking of
Code:
can_use_title = {
		# The attacker needs at least one county in the target kingdom, or a border, or be only two sea zones away from one of your counties
		any_direct_de_jure_vassal_title = {
			OR = {
				holder_scope = {
					OR = {
						character = ROOT
						is_liege_or_above = ROOT
					}
				}
				location = {
					any_neighbor_province = {
						OR = {
							AND = {
								has_owner = yes
								owner = {
									OR = {
										character = ROOT
										is_liege_or_above = ROOT
									}
								}
							}
							AND = {
								is_land = no
								any_neighbor_province = {
									OR = {
										AND = {
											has_owner = yes
											owner = {
												OR = {
													character = ROOT
													is_liege_or_above = ROOT
												}
											}
										}
										AND = {
											is_land = no
											any_neighbor_province = {
												owner = {
													OR = {
														character = ROOT
														is_liege_or_above = ROOT
													}
												}
											}
										}
									}
								}
							}
						}
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

I'm also considering removing/reducing the piety cost of the Sacred War and Conversion War, as well as making the excommunicated ruler CB cost piety and reward piety in the same vein of Conversion War
Incidentally, I'm also planning to make all Surrender options cost an indemnity (depending on the war CB type), though I'll slightly reduce the flat authority/piety penalties to compromise.

incidentally, an idea I forgot some time ago but remembered just now was giving Patricians a character modifier that increases their vassal levy min/max (more MIN than max though, or maybe not max at all) and land morale. I'm tempted to make a bad joke about calling it "second amendment", but... well, I just did.
No offense meant to anyone :p

as for child personality events not triggering, I have no idea why. I didn't change the on_actions trigger (or rather, I only added extra triggers), so have no idea why they aren't triggering. I'll need to investigate that further, though later.


Hey guys, I have been trying to play this mod for awhile now. Not that I can't play, just not much. After a while of playing the game (a good 50 or so years) just crashes for me. I have 1.092 clean (mods are modfoldered, the main files are not tampered with) Does anyone else experience this? I have added required lines to defines.lua but do I need to do anything additional to get the mod compatible?
technically, only adding relevant lines to the lua is necessary to get it compatible. Crashing is a vanilla issue.
One solution that might help alleviate crashing frequency is using the libert3 v11 beta. I've made adjustments to stuff and have been working on cleaning up events that causes lag, so that might help speed things up. It's a beta though, so some funky stuff will be expected (see the rest of the above posts and the previous 3 pages for more details :laugh: )
 

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libert3 v11 beta update (April 18, 23:32 local time)

File: View attachment 78706

Changes since last version:
> reworded A Certain Introductory Localisation
> Added a "Patrician Prerogative" modifier for patricians that give them +15%/5% min/max vassal levies, +0.05 morale, and 0.15 monthly authority.
CB rebalances:
  • Conquest
  • Total War: Also added vanilla holy-war restrictions: "The attacker needs at least one county in the target kingdom, or a border, or be only two sea zones away from one of your counties"
  • Holy War/Sacred War/Conversion War/Excommunicated Ruler: the ruler either be zealous/spiritual/ambitious/dogmatic/ScriptureSpouter and not be either cynical/tolerant.
  • Sacred War CB no longer costs piety. Success gives a piety of 150, an increase in religious authority by 0.5% and inflicts a piety loss of -250 and religious authority of -1% to the target. A white peace gives -100 authority and reduces religious authority by -0.5%, while surrender gives -150 authority and piety loss and 1.5% religious authority loss, while the defender gains 150 piety and 2.5% religious authority.
  • Conversion War CB now costs 150 piety instead of 250. Victory increases religious authority by 2.5% and increases piety by 150, and inflicts -5% to religious authority and -150 piety and (for certain religions) death on the enemy. A white peace costs -250 authority, and surrender costs -500 authority and piety and -2.5% religious authority, and gives the defender 500 piety and 2.5% religious authority.
  • Excommunicated Ruler: at least 100 piety available (not deducted)
  • (Catholic) Invasion CB: now has a 250% annual-income indemnity upon surrender
  • (Tribal) Invasion CB: now has a 500 authority malus upon surrender and white peace.
  • Crusades/Jihad: now have -10%/+5% religious authority penalty/rewards for white peace and -20%/+10% and -250/+250 piety for Surrender.
If you've noticed, I've decided against adding indeminities for most Surrender options for the momet.
I also opted not to try change the AOW/ROW modifier for claim wars since I stil don't know why claim wars are showing up as ROW instead of AOW. Well, it's kind of fitting anyway as aledeth pointed out).
In any case, @Darken24, I think I've fixed the issue with Total War CB not being available.
I haven't fixed a few localisation issues for the mean time, and I still also have no idea why childhood personality traits events are not triggering. I checked my files and libert3 is not (anymore) modifying them (this might be the problem - I think a prior version had a blank file that overwrote vanilla files?).

It goes without saying I'm also updating the compatibility patch, so use that updated version if you're using v1091.
 

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I know you're working on the traits right now, but something to keep in mind: there are currently two tall traits.
 

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Here they are, Riknap - hope these are for humans, not ants! :laugh: