[MOD] Lux Invicta

[riknap]

to be honest, I'm not sure. if the performance hit is excessive enough as you claim, I don't think it's worth it.
An alternative solution would be to add more buildings that require a certain tradition trait to unlock to achieve the intended province-modifier effect, but that's also... a bit convoluted.
Since you were the one who did a lot of work on the events, I'll leave the decision to you for now.

as for the three events popping up, it does seem to be something in the file I made...
this is the file btw, in case someone could notice the problem before I do. I still can't get validator to work (or I'm doing it incorrectly...)
edit: I think I got the problem. adding modifier scopes to the ##event-type(AI) events seems to be the culprit. the problem is i can't place the modifiers at the ##event-type(Player) event because that's triggered only - ie. triggered by the (AI)-version of the event.
how would I edit them to make weight matter for these events?
specifically: the Thieving Captain, Ship Lost in Storm, Noble Books Passage, and Mutiny events (the thieving captain in the uploaded version doesn't have the weight-modifiers yet).

 

[richvh]

Modifiers to MTTH have to go inside the MTTH block:

Wrong:

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 1520
	}
	
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 70
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 65
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 60
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 55
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 50
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 45
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 0.5
	realm_stewardship = 40
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 1.5
	realm_stewardship = 30
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 2
	realm_stewardship = 20
	}
	modifier = {
	factor = 2.5
	realm_stewardship = 10
	}

Right:

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 1520
	
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 70
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 65
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 60
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 55
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 50
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 45
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.5
			realm_stewardship = 40
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.5
			realm_stewardship = 30
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 2
			realm_stewardship = 20
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 2.5
			realm_stewardship = 10
		}
	}

 

[riknap]

ah.

 

[riknap]

Since balancing results seem to be doing relatively well, I thought I'd post some of the tentative balancing modifications I've been working on to tackle snow-balling. That way, I could take any comments and violent reactions into consideration :laugh:

V Rebalanced CB's:

Spoiler

> modified base war-declaration costs to 25/25/50 gold/piety/prestige (vanilla-Lux was 20/30/40)
> the conquest CB (Conquest War) requires 50% of your annual income to stockpiled (aside from the basic 100/100 prestige piety - the gold requirement was made scaling) be available and cost 25% of your annual income and 200 prestige upon usage.
> the conquest CB of militant religions like mithraic,zalmoxis, etc (Expansion War) require and costs 30% of your annual income with no prestige cost.
> the total war CB of a few other even more militant religions (Total War) requires 150% of annual income stockpiled and costs 50% but adds 100 prestige instead of costing prestige.
> the religious CB (Holy War) requires 500 piety and 200 prestige and costs 250 piety (previously 200), 100 prestige, and 10% of annual income
#note the actual cost seems to be influenced partially by other modifiers like SELIN.

VI Rebalanced warfare-diplomacy in general

Spoiler

> increased truce-breaking prestige cost to 500 and declining defensive wars to 250 (vanilla 350 and 150)
> Reduced raised vassal opinion interval to 85 (midway between vanilla 73 and previous 100).
> Increased minimum threshold for troops to 25 from -25 (below that opinion you only get the bare minimum.
> Returned defender war-score for battles to vanilla (1.5x).
> Lowered warscore from contested settlements
> Lowered warscore from occupation by making 100% warscore require 100% occupation.
> Returned battle warscore multiplier to 150
> Lowered prestige from battles further (now 1/5 of vanilla)
#>Added a +25% morale for both unit types of cultural retinues since they have a hardcoded cost markup.
> Increased effect of attrition
> Lowered supply in enemy provinces
> Increased supply in own and neutral realms and also for occupied counties.
> Made agriculture and martial code also increase supply limit (to a lesser extent). Rebalanced them to compensate (reduced castle tax for agriculture and removed levy size for martial code).
> Modified unit maintenance to be slightly less than current settings. Galleys had maintenance reduced from 50 to 40.

 

[Ixor779]

The cb gold requirements make sense and the prestige costs for county conquest should definitely slow down expansion. I also like the actual difference between expansion and county conquest now.

 

[riknap]

The cb gold requirements make sense and the prestige costs for county conquest should definitely slow down expansion. I also like the actual difference between expansion and county conquest now.

personally, I would have preferred a prestige malus scaled with realm-size instead of scaled income only, since a small realm could have good tax laws because of its SELIN modifier while large realms could potentially be piss-poor because they can't tax vassals (assuming no modifications of tax laws which the AI doesn't do - though Novacat's ck2+ integration might change that). But since we can't use realm holdings as a modifier/trigger yet (Wiz did make it available in the base code, but it'll happen by the next patch or after), this should be work as a makeshift hurdle for large realms, especially since the required gold stockpile would be considerable once they're large enough to snowball that they'll either invest that money in buildings... (or hoard it - I haven't gotten a test game with the recent settings beyond a century yet).

 

[Ixor779]

Not sure if you guys touch SELIN stuff but I noticed Wulfist(Bavaria) and Platonic Islamic give .5 to stats that don't actually do anything because nothing else in the mod adds another .5(That I have seen anyway).

 

[Darkgamma]

Numahr has since pulled a Shaytana on us

 

[DarkReborn]

Numahr has since pulled a Shaytana on us

Really? Who has left open the alternate universe teleportation device again? I'm annoyed that we're constantly losing geniuses from the other universes... they all belong in Earth-01.

 

[riknap]

Really? Who has left open the alternate universe teleportation device again? I'm annoyed that we're constantly losing geniuses from the other universes... they all belong in Earth-01.

are you sure this *IS* Earth-01?

The last time he returned from the... desert, he mentioned Jedrek being partially responsible for dragging him back. [sub]Now, if we just had some vorpal field repellant... *mumble mumble*[/sub]


incidentally, if some of you aren't exactly that busy and just hanging around in the forums, I would appreciate some help/comments/criticism regarding my side project for a tactics overhaul. It's linked in my sig - any comments (beyond a single character) would be helpful (especially since one of the goals is to eventually possibly integrate it in LIBERT3 once it's refined enough).
There are currently 148 tactics or so as of typing, but I'm kind of stuck and unable to think of more for the other categories especially since I'm focusing on achieving the balancing LIBERT3 holistically.

 

[idomeneas]

Riknap

I've been trying the latest Libert release. I noticed that in the static_modifiers high stewardship and learning penalise buildtimes, Is it WAD? Otherwise the modifiers need a - before the number.

Nevertheless nice work. It realy changes the way the mod plays.

 

[riknap]

Riknap

I've been trying the latest Libert release. I noticed that in the static_modifiers high stewardship and learning penalise buildtimes, Is it WAD? Otherwise the modifiers need a - before the number.

Nevertheless nice work. It realy changes the way the mod plays.

that...
was definitely not intended :laugh:
thanks for noticing.

I'll probably upload an interim update that corrects some of the few mistakes noticed post v10n without adding in any significant balancing (I'll probably just add the uyghur correction, that static modifier correction (that accordingly doesn't work as it is now anyway since Novaneko says that Clausewitz only recoginizes three decimal points except for a few Fixed Point instances in the defines.lua) and maybe the scaled/factored republic trade events).

 

[Novacat]

Status report: After looking at the Tradition traits, I decided to just flat-out remove the Garrison/Levy_size affects, as they were unfixable. I also decided to overhaul the Mercentile traits, but I ran into a very significant, CK2 specific problem. One of the things that irritates me immensely is that CK2's characters and provinces draw from the same modifier pool, but modifiers that work for one usually do not work for the other. The problem? It is virtually impossible to know which works for which. There is no comprehensive list anywhere, and even vanilla code seems to be confused, as it appears to use province modifiers on character scope a few times. The only guide out there, one that was written by Numahr, seems to be not only missing a lot of modifiers, but also gets a lot of modifiers wrong.

Overall, I think I might have to compile my own list. CURSE YOU DISTRACTIONS.

that...
was definitely not intended :laugh:
thanks for noticing.

I fixed already, but I forgot to mention.

 

[riknap]

Status report: After looking at the Tradition traits, I decided to just flat-out remove the Garrison/Levy_size affects, as they were unfixable. I also decided to overhaul the Mercentile traits, but I ran into a very significant, CK2 specific problem. One of the things that irritates me immensely is that CK2's characters and provinces draw from the same modifier pool, but modifiers that work for one usually do not work for the other. The problem? It is virtually impossible to know which works for which. There is no comprehensive list anywhere, and even vanilla code seems to be confused, as it appears to use province modifiers on character scope a few times. The only guide out there, one that was written by Numahr, seems to be not only missing a lot of modifiers, but also gets a lot of modifiers wrong.

Overall, I think I might have to compile my own list. CURSE YOU DISTRACTIONS.

Yeah, I'll just re-write the localisation for the martial tradition traits and slightly edit their effects to compensate. It's better than making the system lag for something minor (though it is indeed a shame, but we can't have everything )

As for mercantile traits, I'm curious on what exactly you've changed. I guess I'll look forward to your list then? :laugh:
as for the missionary traits though - they're basically pointless right now unless someone makes county-tier bishoprics, right? or rather... you only disabled all tradition traits for barony-tier vassals (excluding patricians) right?


Incidentally and I said before, I hope you also send me a copy of the files you're going to send rich for integration so that I could adjust my tweaks based on the way you've integrated CK2+'s mechanics

 

[Novacat]

When they are ready. Unfortunately, it is going to be a while.

 

[futuregary]

Fixed feast_events.txt

Spoiler

#Guest kills Host's servant
character_event = {
	id = 72055
	desc = EVTDESC72055
	picture = GFX_evt_feast
	
	min_age = 16
	prisoner = no
	capable_only = yes
	
	trigger = {
		war = no
		has_character_flag = guest_feast_started
		OR = {
			trait = wroth
			trait = cruel
			trait = impaler
		}
		OR = {
			tier = BARON
			tier = COUNT
		}
		NOT = {
			trait = just
		}
		any_liege = {
			war = no
			NOT = { personality_traits  = 6 }
			has_character_flag = host_feast_started
			has_character_modifier = holding_large_feast
			NOT = {
				location = {
					has_province_modifier = peasants_upset
				}
			}
		}
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		days = 240
		
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 10 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.2
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 20 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.3
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 30 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.4
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 40 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.5
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 50 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 3
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 100 }
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72055
		any_liege = {
			limit = {
				has_character_flag = host_feast_started
				has_character_modifier = holding_large_feast
				NOT = {
					location = {
						has_province_modifier = peasants_upset
					}
				}
			}
			character_event = {
				id = 72056
				tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP72056
			}
		}
	}
}

#Guest kills Host's servant: Imprison?
character_event = {
	id = 72056
	desc = EVTDESC72056
	picture = GFX_evt_scandal

	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72056
		FROM = {
			imprison = ROOT
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_angry
				who = ROOT
				years = 20
			}
			hidden_tooltip = {
				character_event = {
					id = 72057
				}
			}
		}
		any_vassal = {
			limit = {
				trait = cruel
				trait = wroth
				trait = impaler
			}
			vassal_opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_tyrant
				multiplier = 2
			}
		}
		add_trait = just
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTC72056
		scaled_wealth = -0.10
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTB72056
		add_trait = arbitrary
		location = {
			add_province_modifier = {
				name = peasants_upset
				duration = 365
			}
		}
	}
}

#Guest kills Host's servant: The end
character_event = {
	id = 72057
	desc = EVTDESC72057
	picture = GFX_evt_into_the_dungeon
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72057
		opinion = {
			modifier = opinion_angry
			who = FROM
			years = 20
		}
		clr_character_flag = coming_to_feast
		clr_character_flag = guest_feast_started
		clr_character_flag = wounded_opponent
		clr_character_flag = maimed_opponent
		clr_character_flag = killed_opponent
	}
}

Fixed the vassal-kills-servant event in the following ways:
- Imprisoning the vassal now gives you the Just trait instead of the Cruel trait, and the Tyrant opinion modifier is now only given to vassals with the Cruel, Wroth, or Impaler traits. (I think, I may have flubbed up in the code, could someone please double-check that for me? I doubt it, though.)
- Giving the other servants gold now no longer gives you the Just trait. Basically, it's only purpose is to avoid the Just/Arbitrary traits and the negative modifiers by spending a few coins.

 

[Ixor779]

The Insular Norse of Iceland and the island of Faereyar have the same issue as the Uyghurs.

 

[riknap]

Fixed feast_events.txt

Spoiler

#Guest kills Host's servant
character_event = {
	id = 72055
	desc = EVTDESC72055
	picture = GFX_evt_feast
	
	min_age = 16
	prisoner = no
	capable_only = yes
	
	trigger = {
		war = no
		has_character_flag = guest_feast_started
		OR = {
			trait = wroth
			trait = cruel
			trait = impaler
		}
		OR = {
			tier = BARON
			tier = COUNT
		}
		NOT = {
			trait = just
		}
		any_liege = {
			war = no
			NOT = { personality_traits  = 6 }
			has_character_flag = host_feast_started
			has_character_modifier = holding_large_feast
			NOT = {
				location = {
					has_province_modifier = peasants_upset
				}
			}
		}
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		days = 240
		
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 10 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.2
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 20 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.3
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 30 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.4
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 40 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.5
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 50 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 3
			liege = { num_of_vassals = 100 }
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72055
		any_liege = {
			limit = {
				has_character_flag = host_feast_started
				has_character_modifier = holding_large_feast
				NOT = {
					location = {
						has_province_modifier = peasants_upset
					}
				}
			}
			character_event = {
				id = 72056
				tooltip = EVTTOOLTIP72056
			}
		}
	}
}

#Guest kills Host's servant: Imprison?
character_event = {
	id = 72056
	desc = EVTDESC72056
	picture = GFX_evt_scandal

	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72056
		FROM = {
			imprison = ROOT
			opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_angry
				who = ROOT
				years = 20
			}
			hidden_tooltip = {
				character_event = {
					id = 72057
				}
			}
		}
		any_vassal = {
			limit = {
				trait = cruel
				trait = wroth
				trait = impaler
			}
			vassal_opinion = {
				modifier = opinion_tyrant
				multiplier = 2
			}
		}
		add_trait = just
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTC72056
		scaled_wealth = -0.10
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTB72056
		add_trait = arbitrary
		location = {
			add_province_modifier = {
				name = peasants_upset
				duration = 365
			}
		}
	}
}

#Guest kills Host's servant: The end
character_event = {
	id = 72057
	desc = EVTDESC72057
	picture = GFX_evt_into_the_dungeon
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA72057
		opinion = {
			modifier = opinion_angry
			who = FROM
			years = 20
		}
		clr_character_flag = coming_to_feast
		clr_character_flag = guest_feast_started
		clr_character_flag = wounded_opponent
		clr_character_flag = maimed_opponent
		clr_character_flag = killed_opponent
	}
}

Fixed the vassal-kills-servant event in the following ways:
- Imprisoning the vassal now gives you the Just trait instead of the Cruel trait, and the Tyrant opinion modifier is now only given to vassals with the Cruel, Wroth, or Impaler traits. (I think, I may have flubbed up in the code, could someone please double-check that for me? I doubt it, though.)
- Giving the other servants gold now no longer gives you the Just trait. Basically, it's only purpose is to avoid the Just/Arbitrary traits and the negative modifiers by spending a few coins.

that might work...

The Insular Norse of Iceland and the island of Faereyar have the same issue as the Uyghurs.

Insuler Norse right? Noted
[sub]and since they're out of the way enough, I'll give them level 7 buildings for all and an ultra-powerful retinue, and a 999k doomstack and a million ship armada, and call it the Invasion of the Icemen, muahahaha[/sub]

 

[Novacat]

Fair warning: My activity might be low for the next couple of days. Real Life has made a call and I have to answer.

 

[riknap]

Fair warning: My activity might be low for the next couple of days. Real Life has made a call and I have to answer.

mother of...
someone has been conspiring to disabling LI's modders!
quick, we need to form an investigation team!
:laugh: