[MOD] Lux Invicta

[Cèsar de Quart]

Me too, since the mod started updating itself like crazy, I stopped playing. I hate to give up my games, I become too attached to the characters and their story.

When I lost my 1300's game with the new patch, I was angry. Really. It stopped at the worst possible moment: once my old duke died and his successor, his grandson, had become without me noticing it, King of Arles. Thanks to a very good web of marriage policies, marrying that fat dumb Feliciana Verus had its rewards.

Another reward was having my already ded son being older than most of his uncles, and then, when making marriages between cousins... well, things like "turns out my grandfather by father's side and my father my mother's side are the same person! Should I go bonkers?" "Nah, my mother is also my aunt by father's side, and my uncles are all younger than me... I might marry one of their children, though, when I'm old and creepy, to make sons that will be my grandcousins".

Tricky stuff. I managed to have one "Queen Victoria" from my dynasty; that great character who is involved in everything and ends up being grandparent of most the royalty once he's dead. Great stuff indeed!

And the the patch came!

 

[TheDarkMaster]

For Norse Heresies, any chance you could take a look at the event that turns them into your own religion? I've been waiting over a hundred years for one of my three heresy provinces to flip back over to Norse (from Ragnarok, while Norse is at 100% authority), and I'm starting to think that maybe it isn't possible for them to do so.

 

[Jedrek]

Well, I'm planning an AAR myself (Numahr's probably already figured out which country will I choose ), so I got quite upset by frequent updates as well... Frankly, I hope this update will be the last for a month or two, so that once LI 0.7 gets released, it'll have countless new additions and upgrades.

 

[Wargz]

I remember awhile back Shay mentioned that he might add a Chinese invasion, are there any plans to add that in?

 

[Tsar Monarchist]

Well, I'm planning an AAR myself (Numahr's probably already figured out which country will I choose ), so I got quite upset by frequent updates as well... Frankly, I hope this update will be the last for a month or two, so that once LI 0.7 gets released, it'll have countless new additions and upgrades.

I hoped for the same, I've already got prepared some material for AAR with the last Shaytana's version, but with new 1.07 patch and continued work on mod it couldn't even start.

 

[Tsar Monarchist]

I almost forgot - here's my culture file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r432ci

Yet no Old Frankish edited, I'll do it next time. Maybe I'll bring then some more...

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And here you have some new (more Slavic, as should be) map localisation for western Hungary:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/acx1ov

 

[Paker111]

Shaytana & richvh

I had a great time during reading of mod timeline, although I would often argued abut details Thank you for that entertainment.
Author of that timeline should write a book or better a series

 

[Darkgamma]

Shaytana made this mod - what more do you want :laugh:

 

[Pyoro]

A movie trilogy directed by Peter Jackson?

Great mod, definitely worth playing. I'm not too much of a fan of this kind of scenario in and on itself, but the fact I still like it definitely shows how good it is. =)

 

[richvh]

I almost forgot - here's my culture file:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r432ci

Yet no Old Frankish edited, I'll do it next time. Maybe I'll bring then some more...

Shouldn't Clovis link to Louis, and Clotar to Lothar, rather than to Clovis and Clotar respectively? Another missing link I noticed was Siegfried/Sigfred.

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And here you have some new (more Slavic, as should be) map localisation for western Hungary:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/acx1ov[/QUOTE]

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

Shouldn't Clovis link to Louis, and Clotar to Lothar, rather than to Clovis and Clotar respectively? Another missing link I noticed was Siegfried/Sigfred.

Yes, it should. I'm not sure Clovis should link Louis, though, even if the share the same root, "Hlodovig". I don't think people would recognise it's the same name, and after all, the Kings of France were named Louis after Clovis, but none of them, not even in their family, ever had the name Clovis.

Has anyone worked on Spanish royal lists? If so, who and which ones? I'd like to deal with the Visigothic kings and some others.

Take care!

 

[Jedrek]

So far I've coded in only the Suevs, so feel free to prepare any others

 

[TheGreatLeader]

can someone provide a simplistic map of the Timeline on the FrontPage? I find the alternate history great but trying to see a map of what the nations were and who tried to invade who makes it very confusing.

 

[Tsar Monarchist]

Shouldn't Clovis link to Louis, and Clotar to Lothar, rather than to Clovis and Clotar respectively? Another missing link I noticed was Siegfried/Sigfred.

As Cesar posted, both form has the same form root, those names evolved into what we know now as Louis or Lothar. But they are not considered by historians as the same name, as cultures they represent are different form their older versions. Forms like Clovis or Clotar are romanized forms of those Old Frankish names. That's why I only suggested to incorporate some of the Old Frankish names. And that's why I didn't link them as one, but both forms separately, as a symbol of independent evolution in culture.

The other way would be fully implement Old Frankish as it was and link it with characters instead of "French" Frankish. Then, it would be legit to link Chlodovig and Louis or Chlotar and Lothar. That switch would be correct if we knew, how Frankish, as a part of German languages group, became romanized French. But I'm not a specialist in this topic, so I don't want to put any thesis in here.

About Siegfried/Sigfred - it's hard to link ALL names properly, there are many names still not linked actually. Especially in Lux Invicta there are so many cultures and different forms of names... I tried to do my best, but that's normal I could just missed some links, even if obvious and quite visible.

 

[Jedrek]

can someone provide a simplistic map of the Timeline on the FrontPage? I find the alternate history great but trying to see a map of what the nations were and who tried to invade who makes it very confusing.

As a person who spent at least a week trying to read through the whole timeline I can say only one thing - impossible. Italy alone would be a mess of entangling arrows, and Gaul would most likely dissapear under the constant barbarian invasions/Roman campaigns. I guess making a separate map for each century would make it more plausible - but still, a crapload work to do.

BTW, I've already proposed this to Numahr, but since he expressed his doubts, I'm pasting this here; a suggestion for a new religion, based in Makedonia and lead by the local Argedai branch:

Alexandros-Sol (adj. Solar Alexandrian)
The cult of Alexandros-Sol is a local variations of the Graeco-Roman faith with a statist soul and strong archaic influence. Created during the reign of Argead emperor Philippos in the 9th century CE, this relatively new faith believes Megas Alexandros to be the only true Sol incarnate, thus makng the Argeadai blood the only suitable to sit upon imperial throne in Constantinople. Solar Alexandrians believe the Argedai to be descendants of not only Zeus-Ammon, but also of Sol (represented by Greek Helios, Aegyptian Ra or Roman Sol, depending on the believer's nationality). Its structures are relatively simmilar to Sol-Invictus, with the monarch having supreme authority on secular and doctrical matters, while Pontifex Maximus is a mere administrator and celebrant. Traditional Solar holidays - like Dies Natalis Solis - are also upheld, accompanied by purely Alexandrian ones - like the anniversary of Megas Alexandros' ascencion to the Persian throne in 330 BCE.

The reasoning; LI timeline features several emperors from the Argedai dynasty (ruling roughly in 9th century CE), but mentions nothing about any religious reforms/changes in this period. The Macedonian branch of the Argedai dynasty seems to be some cadet one (it is explicitly said that Alexandros IV fled to Kypros after his father's death, so the Kyprian one should be considered the main branch). This, combined with the fact that they have been influenced by Sol Invictus for at least a century leads me into believing that they'd at some point abandon the pure Alexandros-Ammon is favour of a reformed ("updated") faith. Currently we have three realms worshipping Alexandros-Ammon - Makedonia, Kypros and Syria. While I have no objections towards Syria and Kypros (all in all, they are very close to geographical "heart" of Alexandros' empire), isolated Makedonia always seemed strange to me, especially after learing which Argead branch is the senior one.

I realise it can be interpreted as messing with Shaytana's work too much, but I decided to propose it either way after seeing the Slavic Christianity making it into SELIN.

 

[CCA]

What features does 0.6E add to the game? Is it worth losing a save file for just to upgrade to 0.6E from D?

 

[richvh]

• More Congenital Traits
• Ard Ri mod style succession for Celts (particularly Irish)
• NB+ integrated
• Improved Minimap integrated

 

[Numahr]

I realise it can be interpreted as messing with Shaytana's work too much, but I decided to propose it either way after seeing the Slavic Christianity making it into SELIN.

My "doubts" only mean that I think the suggestion is interesting and deserves attention. It is not a big deal to create the religion as I did for Slavic Christianity. However, to introduce it in-game is one step further. Every time a well-researched suggestion for religious fragmentation was proposed to Shaytana, he went for it (see the example of splitting Luwian religion into 3 religions, one mainstream and 2 spin-off), so I am tempted to approve this one too.

• More Congenital Traits
• Ard Ri mod style succession for Celts (particularly Irish)
• NB+ integrated
• Improved Minimap integrated

... and latest SELIN update: mostly all religions coded in / new custom descriptions of religions

 

[Numahr]

For Norse Heresies, any chance you could take a look at the event that turns them into your own religion? I've been waiting over a hundred years for one of my three heresy provinces to flip back over to Norse (from Ragnarok, while Norse is at 100% authority), and I'm starting to think that maybe it isn't possible for them to do so.

I will try to look at heresy spread as soon as I can play a few years to better assess the situation in game... but probably this is the result of the original Norse mod not being designed to handle "heresies."

 

[Teutonic_Thrash]

Alexandros-Sol (adj. Solar Alexandrian)
The cult of Alexandros-Sol is a local variations of the Graeco-Roman faith with a statist soul and strong archaic influence. Created during the reign of Argead emperor Philippos in the 9th century CE, this relatively new faith believes Megas Alexandros to be the only true Sol incarnate, thus makng the Argeadai blood the only suitable to sit upon imperial throne in Constantinople. Solar Alexandrians believe the Argedai to be descendants of not only Zeus-Ammon, but also of Sol (represented by Greek Helios, Aegyptian Ra or Roman Sol, depending on the believer's nationality). Its structures are relatively simmilar to Sol-Invictus, with the monarch having supreme authority on secular and doctrical matters, while Pontifex Maximus is a mere administrator and celebrant. Traditional Solar holidays - like Dies Natalis Solis - are also upheld, accompanied by purely Alexandrian ones - like the anniversary of Megas Alexandros' ascencion to the Persian throne in 330 BCE.

I like it. However replace the word 'nationality' with 'culture', as I think that's too much of an anachronism.