[MOD] Lux Invicta

[Sleight of Hand]

Richard VanHouten, ye of much modding knowledge: is it possible to assign disinheritance to certain traits? For example, I think that totally 'inbred' (representing severe deformities) characters ought to be skipped in the line of succession, as could celibate characters perhaps (though not necessarily).

Anyway, I remember reading that blinded characters are disinherited in the Byzantine Empire (is that correct?) but I can't imagine this applies across the board, and indeed a number of Western characters were given this trait in the 1.08 patch, so I presume the 'blinding = yes' modifier just adds the eye graphics.

How much do you know about this process, and can specific traits be made to disinherit people with said trait? In modding terms (such as in LI, with its much more open concepts) it would be useful I'm sure, and may already exist. I also like the idea of making 'incapable' characters passed over (suggesting they are as good as dead anyway), and possibly even making 'inbred' characters require a regent as well. Perhaps something to consider here?

Thanks in advance.

 

[richvh]

I direct your attention to the "cannot_inherit" modifier, used in vanilla's eunuch trait.

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

I don't think about removing empire of Russia from the mod. And as Shay stated he considered system of more empires as a result of this timeline. And took even Samo as High King of Slavs, not even king or higher prince as I suggested.

I agree also that we should have some more titular empires in the area, for Bulgarians, etc. And they perhaps might be called Tsardoms in LI. Though I just want to remind that even if Caesar title existed, it was lesser than Basileos. So having tsars as kings might be reasonable, as we have this region even more "romanized" than in OTL.

While it might be understandable to recall Tsar as an empire-tier title, yet we should think about if it's actually good for Russian, who are less influenced by Greeks and more by Norse.



No maybe "Pan" as counts? It might be reasonable, and IIRC Czech and Slovakian also use it in their languages. Then Knyaz -> duke, Velikiy Knyaz -> king (while "king" should be available for some titles), and Tsar -> emperor.



But Slavic nations are not like originally were. And even in OTL differences we so small, like was mentioned with Kievan prince example in some earlier post. So between Poles and Czechs were lesser - I was stating once in Polish historical forum that it wouldn't be odd if Poland and Bohemia united in 11th century established single culture.



I agree with elandread, maybe treat Dunin's as Danish dynasty settled in Silesia, building it's own country. Dunin's (or Łabędź, from their CoA) are considered as former dukes of Silesia, before Polans have conquered it.



Ok.



Should be Popielid (anglicized form) or Popielita.



About Wendia, I won't agree with you as I was the one who proposed it to Shaytana

Serbja would be as good as Polonia you mentioned... Maybe consider Wendia (still Latin name...) as a kingdom merging Sorbian, Polabian, Pomeranian AND Polish. Mieszko was called in Dagome Iudex "king of the Wends" though, and Boleslaw was stated similar in some other documents.

About Bohemia, it's hard to say. "Boëmia" was quite common name in Latin for this state. And remember that some tribes were called of other tribes names sometimes (Slavs for example...). So maybe me might leave it untouched?

I do prefer that we leave it as it is. Do not attempt to turn it all into native languages, because then... all the Lux Invicta late roman feeling is mostly lost. Also, we're playing this game in English, mostly. To have a message saying "Rudolf, Herzog of Pfaltzgrafshaft bei Rhein, has married Urraca, Duquesa of Aragón" or "Sweyn, Cyngilinin of Angelcynn, has declared Holy War for Jórvik on Haraldr, Konung of Sviaríki". I probably made a lot of mistakes in this single line, and I made the Anglo-Saxon title up. Just to prove my point.

I like mods like SWMH, but I hate when they do that. I'm all for adding the more titles possible when they are somewhat known in English, but I'm totally against having them there just in their original language. IBesides, they go for accurate, but in the end it's not accurate at all (why aren't they in Latin? Or Greek? Why are they in modern graphies, or noawadays grammar? And so on and so forth).

So, please, bear that in mind.

 

[dorimi]

so it is works with 1.8?

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Yup.

 

[richvh]

Yes.

 

[Darkgamma]

Jámm.

 

[Tsar Monarchist]

I do prefer that we leave it as it is. Do not attempt to turn it all into native languages, because then... all the Lux Invicta late roman feeling is mostly lost. Also, we're playing this game in English, mostly. To have a message saying "Rudolf, Herzog of Pfaltzgrafshaft bei Rhein, has married Urraca, Duquesa of Aragón" or "Sweyn, Cyngilinin of Angelcynn, has declared Holy War for Jórvik on Haraldr, Konung of Sviaríki". I probably made a lot of mistakes in this single line, and I made the Anglo-Saxon title up. Just to prove my point.

I like mods like SWMH, but I hate when they do that. I'm all for adding the more titles possible when they are somewhat known in English, but I'm totally against having them there just in their original language. IBesides, they go for accurate, but in the end it's not accurate at all (why aren't they in Latin? Or Greek? Why are they in modern graphies, or noawadays grammar? And so on and so forth).

So, please, bear that in mind.

I feel the same. But Shay had already added native cultural titles, so we might stay close to the existing system. And those changes I wouldn't like to have like when we have "Wladyslaw, król z Polska" or similar (like it's in SWMH mod you mentioned).

They will stay anglicized or romanized at least, rather with no changes on landed titles names. Maybe except provinces/counties, I rather like when they're close to original. And speaking of which, I have some changes in western Hungary - renamed holdings and provinces, so as some duchy titles into Slavic names (as Magyars didn't spread in there).

 

[cybrxkhan]

I just wanted to drop in and make a comment about the localized titles, titles in native languages - I agree that they shouldn't be overdone, as you might as well translate the game into 1000 different languages, some of which nobody even knows about. Instead, personally, (and I'm doing this for my own mod) I feel titles in native languages are justified when the equivalent title in that culture is different in some way than that of the default Franco-Imperial feudal title. For instance, Irish Kings can be named High Kings and Dukes Kings because the political situation in Ireland is different than that of the generic feudal system.

 

[Tzeentch_]

I'm getting a CTD when a text box pops up. It's happened a few times before but now the save file is broke as everytime a certain duke declares war on me (he formed a faction) the game crashes. Any ideas?

 

[richvh]

I'd have to take a look at the savegame, and even then there's no guarantees I'll figure it out.

 

[keytool]

I noticed that the blood traits for the emperors are invisible, but if you hover over the stats it shows up, its there but you can't read the little description. Also my children don't seem to be inheriting the blood traits, my son was strong and apparently replaced my blood of Augustus.

 

[witcher1701]

I don't suppose you're planning on adding more provinces? Just curious.

 

[richvh]

Shay wanted more provinces, and wanted to use the SWMH map when it was done, but we have no idea what his plans were so we won't be adding any.

@keytool: was your character male or female? Blood traits are passed to the children only if the father has the trait.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Why do you have that restriction? Shouldn't it be based on the style of marriage or on what type of succession a nation has?

 

[richvh]

What restriction? Lacking context.

 

[Darkgamma]

I believe he's referring to agnatic inheritance of blood traits.

 

[wakko2k]

I dont remember this happening before the update, but playing as Sviariki is a real pain now. Started over 3 times, and everytime my king, Konung Erik I of Svíariki doesnt get approved by the ting as king. This gives real nasty effects, your prestige drops to the bottom, you get minus prestige/month for many many years, your vassals revolts with 1500-2000 soldiers when you have roughly 1000 total. Playing as svíariki is not easy nowadays. I dont remember this happening before the update, did something happen? Or did you design it this way to make it rather.. unpleasant to play?

I'll also mention that finding a bride that doesnt give you -80 prestige at the start is very hard, if even possible?

 

[TheDarkMaster]

I believe he's referring to agnatic inheritance of blood traits.

Yes, that's right. Sorry for not being more specific.

 

[Darkgamma]

I dont remember this happening before the update, but playing as Sviariki is a real pain now. Started over 3 times, and everytime my king, Konung Erik I of Svíariki doesnt get approved by the ting as king. This gives real nasty effects, your prestige drops to the bottom, you get minus prestige/month for many many years, your vassals revolts with 1500-2000 soldiers when you have roughly 1000 total. Playing as svíariki is not easy nowadays. I dont remember this happening before the update, did something happen? Or did you design it this way to make it rather.. unpleasant to play?

I'll also mention that finding a bride that doesnt give you -80 prestige at the start is very hard, if even possible?

a) You're having really bad luck - or just a craven, low-prestige king - I've always been approved by the tings; you could try going berserk on lands around you, or go on a víking or two.
b) It's hard as nobody really has any sister or full-grown daughter by then. This situation normalises after about twenty-thirty years.