[MOD] Lux Invicta
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I've added and edited Slavic names already and now I'm implementing them into the new version. But I will use yours, as my knowledge about Russian is not good enough
But I'll keep some Christian names though. For the same reason I've done it for Slavs and can be seen in other cultures - even without much Christian influence, world was mainly influenced by Romans, when in some point of history Christianity became important religion. So their Greek and Semitic names became part of Roman culture, which spread in Europe, so as in Slavic territories.
BTW, are you sure those names were used in Russia? They are Slavic, but some of them I found rather South Slavic...
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Question to Rich, once again...
What changes in 00_cultures.txt from 0.6c to 0.6d, and what changes included for next release? (mostly by Bad_Haggis, I see)
What changes in 00_cultures.txt from 0.6c to 0.6d, and what changes included for next release? (mostly by Bad_Haggis, I see)
Fair enough. However, the percentage of christian names should be decreased considerably, imo.
Which ones in particular do you have doubts about? I'll recheck them.
You should consider integrating NB+ into lux invicta. It's fully compatible and you can just tick both mods and they'll work fine with each other, but it'd be quite nice if you could integrate it completely. Makes the game look so much better graphically.
Current 00_cultures.txt:
View attachment 00_cultures.txt
Other than adding the Aztecs, I don't remember details of what I changed from 0.6c to d.
View attachment 00_cultures.txt
Other than adding the Aztecs, I don't remember details of what I changed from 0.6c to d.
Query: which cultures, religions and titles (duke and above) should be subject to Ard Ri mod mechanics? I'm thinking:
cultures:
religions:
Titles: any dejure titles that start predominantly of the above cultures and religions, plus titular titles that start with those cultures and religions, plus e_britannia.
Thoughts?
cultures:
- certain
- irish
- scottish
- pictish
- possible
- welsh
- brython
- romanobrython
- sarmatobrython
- breton
- norsegael
religions:
- certain
- celtic_pagan
- celtic_christ
- possible
- pelagian
Titles: any dejure titles that start predominantly of the above cultures and religions, plus titular titles that start with those cultures and religions, plus e_britannia.
Thoughts?
I'd like to add a modified version of Catalan culture, with names more fitting to their less-Aragonese influenced, more Occitanised, situation. It also reintroduces the Catalan patronymics that were discarted in the first CK patches:
Code:
}
catalan = {
graphical_culture = catalangfx
color = { 0.4 0.7 0.4 }
male_names = {
Adalbert_Albert Alfons_Alphonse Alemany Àlvar_Oliver Amat Arnau_Arnold "Arnau Miró" Aleran Artau_Artal Alemany Alberich Arnarich
"Arnau Jordà"_Arnold-Jordan Arsí_Harthin Ardó_Ardo Amell Aisó Àkhila Arenguer Angot
Bartomeu_Bartolomeus Benet_Benedict Berenguer_Berengar "Berenguer Ramon"_Berengar-Raymond Berà Bernat_Bernard Berengol Beremir
"Bernat Hug" Bertran_Bertrand Borrell Boristor Beremir Beremon_Vermudo Berenrich Berengot Benaurat Bernolf
Carles_Charles Carloman Carobert Car_Carus Climent_Clemens
Dalmau_Damas "Dalmau Berenguer" Deodat_Theodat Dauder Deudard
Enrich_Henry Ermengol_Hermenegild Ermenguer Ermemir Ermessí Ermembert Ermensal
Ferran_Ferdinand Folch_Folke Francesch_Francis Frederich_Frederick Fàfila_Favila Folmir
Galceran Gausbert "Guillem Ramon"_William-Raymond "Ramon Guillem"_Raymond-William "Ramon Folch" Gausfred_Godfrey Geribert Guitard Gaucelm
Gombau_Gundoald Guerau_Gerald Grau_Gerald Guifré_Wilfred Guillem_William "Guillem Galceran" "Guillem Jordà"_William-Jordan Guiu_Guy Garsèn
Guadall Guisol Guillot Gilabert_Gilbert Guislabert_Gilbert Guitard Geromir Hug_Hugh Gerobert
Gorlòs Gaumir Gaudiló Galcegot Galcerall Gumersí_Gumersind
Isembard_Isembard Isard_Isard Isall Issó_Isso Iu_Yves Isemir
Jaume_Jacob Joan_John Jeroni_Hyeronimous "Jehan Ramon"_John-Raymond Jofré_Godfrey Jordà_Jordan Josseran_Josserand
Sisenand Sindreu Salomó_Solomon Segimon_Sigismund Segimar Sunifred Senyomir_Seniomirus
Llop_Lupo Lloposlleó Lleó_Leo Levegot Loter_Lothar
Llodovís_Louis Llovegild_Leovigild
Mateu_Matthew Miró_Miro Mir_Miro Marçau_Marsal Macià Malgaulí
Marcomir Merobert
Nunó_Nuno Nicolau_Nicholas Narbonell Narbogot
Oliba Ot_Otto Odsèn Oleguer Olengol Olemir Odiló_Odilon Onofré_Humphrey Odalrich
Pagà_Pagan Pere_Peter Ponç_Pons Pau_Paul
Riambau_Raimbaut Ramon_Raymond "Ramon*Berenguer"_Raymond-Berengar Rostany "Ramon*Borrell" Raimir_Ramiro Raigol Raiguer Recard_Richard Rodrich_Roderick
Renard_Renaud Reverter Ricard_Richard Robert_Robert Roderich_Roderick Roger_Roger Regomir Rostany
Onofré_Humphrey Odiló Oleguer Odalric Olemir Odsèn Olestrol Olegot Oter Otger_Ogier
Sanç_Sancho Simó_Simon Sunifred_Seniofred Sunyer_Suniarius Sentill Segimon_Sigmund Sisemon Sisenand Salomó_Solomon Sisemon Sunyigot Siginolf
Tetbald_Theobald Toderich Teubert Teudrich
Udalard
Vidal Witeixa Wàlia Wamba
}
female_names = {
Adelaida_Adelaide Agnès_Agnes Alamanda Aldonça_Aldonza Algaburga Almodis_Almodis Angarina Anglesa Arnaua Arsenda_Arsenda Aurembaix Ava Beatriu Beliarda Berenguera Blanca_Blanche Brunisenda Caterina_Catherine Cecília Clemencia_ClementiaConstança_Constance
Dolça_Douce Eldionda Elionor_Eleanor Elisenda Ermenerda Ermessenda_Ermesinda Esclaramunda_Esclarmunda Estefania_Stephania Fides Flor_Flora Gaia Galceranda Gausfredina Gotruda Gueraua Guillelma Guinilda Guisla_Gisela Isabel_Elisabeth Joana_Joan
Jusiana Laura_Laura Letgarda Llúcia Mahalta Maior Margarida_Margaret Maria_Maria Marquesa Òria Ramona Ricarda_Ricarda Riquilda Sança_Sancha Saura Sibila_Sibylla Teresa_Teresa Timbor
Toda_Toda Urraca_Urraca València Violant_Yolanda Ximena
}
from_dynasty_prefix = "de "
male_patronym = " "
prefix = no
grammar_transform = french
pat_grf_name_chance = 60
mat_grf_name_chance = 10
father_name_chance = 30
pat_grm_name_chance = 40
mat_grm_name_chance = 25
mother_name_chance = 25
modifier = french_culture_modifier
}Do quoted double names properly link? Vanilla seems to have moved from quoted double names to hyphenated names.
Just quoting the Creator on the Duke of Badajoz...
Edit: i've left the rest of His post as there are interesting bits on other topics as well...
Edit: a few more interesting quotes on related topic:
... this one should be taken into account when drafting description for Veles.
... just a reminder that the "Russian" area was not yet brought up to Shayatana's standards. But i guess there is not much we can really do on this
... again on the Badajoz rulers and Dacians and Sarmatians in the "Russian" area, in the wider context of the client state approach
Edit: i've left the rest of His post as there are interesting bits on other topics as well...
- Abu Bakr of Badajoz is a Saburid (I've explained this twice before but will again because it's a nice piece of strangeness), inspired by RL strangely enough - the Slavic Sabur was the founder of that taifa state of Badajoz in our reality. Basically you've got Slavic slave-soldiers taking control -> you've got a state ruled by Slavic military now turned Muslim. So him being Russian is WAD, it's sort of a "Southern Varangian ghulams turned rulers" episode. Him being Veliki Knyaz is a localisation issue due to his culture
-the Angra Mainyu issue could be solved by making it its own religion, not sure if that's a good idea.
-No on Satanism...(for various reasons) the "evil" religions are Ahrimanism and Angra Mainyu for now... there's also Eosphorism which is not evil but has Lucifer(very different Lucifer though - I've explained it in thread) at its core.
-Pagan is not a pejorative though, it's just a designation in my eyes... you are right though maybe I should remove that tag, I'll think about it!
Edit: a few more interesting quotes on related topic:
Veles is an interesting god yes. Also notice the Veles worshippers are right next to Ahrimanists - that's intentional.
... this one should be taken into account when drafting description for Veles.
... just a reminder that the "Russian" area was not yet brought up to Shayatana's standards. But i guess there is not much we can really do on this
No, just no sorry. You are missing the point the Roman Empire was different in that they had a system of "client kings" in place all over. This system influenced everyone around them, like we have Caesar turned into titles in our reality for example. Kingly titles are common here. You need to understand that the Dacians and Sarmatians ruled vast territories in this reality for one as Roman clients (in areas you would consider Slavic) fully buying into the lesser kings system and they influenced the Slavs for one... And sorry but I could explain further and debate this ad infinitum, but that is a waste of my development time.
Yes read up on the Slavic Sabur creator of the Taifa State of Badajoz. That's a Slavic ghulams with a state syndrom in Hispania partly inspired by our reality. (I've explained this a lot
... again on the Badajoz rulers and Dacians and Sarmatians in the "Russian" area, in the wider context of the client state approach
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Could i hope that this version will lag less than the previous ? Thank you all for keeping this alive!
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-Norse bastard modifier is missing a localization
-Odin's blood is missing its icon on my characters. The space is there, but it is invisible.
-Holding a blot as a Norse nation increases Norse Moral authority by 1%. Since essentially all small Norse lords do this very regularly, this means constant 100% moral authority after the end of the first year of the game. I suggest that the moral authority bonus be scrubbed.
-Norse bastard modifier is missing a localization
-Odin's blood is missing its icon on my characters. The space is there, but it is invisible.
-Holding a blot as a Norse nation increases Norse Moral authority by 1%. Since essentially all small Norse lords do this very regularly, this means constant 100% moral authority after the end of the first year of the game. I suggest that the moral authority bonus be scrubbed.
A dynastical question - what should we do with parts of history ommited by Shaytana? I've recieved a very nice list of Suevic monarchs, sent by jmberry, spanning from 5th to 11th century CE and I'd be most happy to add them. Still, there are only one or two Suevic monarchs mentioned in Shaytana's timeline. I don't think that'd mess LI timeline in any way - but I still can hear the uproar caused by my unfortunate "I'll make it up" when mentioning the 1020-1066 gap in Roman history. Better be safe than sorry
I don't know, never tried.
Actually, they could be completely removed, since double names are just fossilised patronymics, and they don't have a raison d'être in this timeline by themselves. Let me update the list:
Code:
}
catalan = {
graphical_culture = catalangfx
color = { 0.4 0.7 0.4 }
male_names = {
Adalbert_Albert Alfons_Alphonse Alemany Àlvar_Oliver Amat Arnau_Arnold Aleran Artau_Artal Alemany Alberich Arnarich
Arsí_Harthin Ardó_Ardo Amell Aisó Àkhila Arenguer Angot
Bartomeu_Bartolomeus Benet_Benedict Berenguer_Berengar Berà Bernat_Bernard Berengol
Bertran_Bertrand Borrell Boristor Beremir Beremon_Vermudo Berenrich Berengot Benaurat Bernolf
Carles_Charles Carloman Carobert Car_Carus Climent_Clemens
Dalmau_Damas Deodat_Theodat Dauder Deudard
Enrich_Henry Ermengol_Hermenegild Ermenguer Ermemir Ermessí Ermembert Ermensal
Ferran_Ferdinand Folch_Folke Francesch_Francis Frederich_Frederick Fàfila_Favila Folmir
Galceran Gausbert Gausfred_Godfrey Geribert Guitard Gaucelm
Gombau_Gundoald Guerau_Gerald Grau_Gerald Guifré_Wilfred Guillem_William Guillemon Guillemir Guillot Guiu_Guy Garsèn
Guadall Guisol Guillot Gilabert_Gilbert Guislabert_Gilbert Guitard Geromir Hug_Hugh Gerobert
Gorlòs Gaumir Gaudiló Galcegot Galcerall Gumersí_Gumersind Galer_Galerius
Isembard_Isembard Isard_Isard Isall Issó_Isso Iu_Yves Isemir
Jachme_Jacob Jehan_John Jeroni_Hyeronimous Jofré_Godfrey Jordà_Jordan Josseran_Josserand
Sisenand Sindreu Salomó_Solomon Segimon_Sigismund Segimar Sunifred Senyomir_Seniomirus
Llop_Lupo Lloposlleó Lleó_Leo Levegot Loter_Lothar
Llodovís_Louis Llovegild_Leovigild
Mateu_Matthew Miró_Miro Mir_Miro Marçau_Marsal Macià Malgaulí
Marcomir Merobert
Nunó_Nuno Nicolau_Nicholas Narbonell Narbogot
Oliba Ot_Otto Odsèn Oleguer Olengol Olemir Odiló_Odilon Onofré_Humphrey Odalrich
Pagà_Pagan Pere_Peter Ponç_Pons Pau_Paul Pilat
Riambau_Raimbaut Raimon_Raymond Rostany Raimir_Ramiro Raigol Raiguer Recard_Richard Rodrich_Roderick Ramestany
Renard_Renaud Renat_René Reverter Ricard_Richard Robert_Robert Roderich_Roderick Roger_Roger Regomir Rostany
Onofré_Humphrey Odiló Oleguer Odalric Olemir Odsèn Olestrol Olegot Oter Otger_Ogier
Sanç_Sancho Simó_Simon Sunifred_Seniofred Sunyer_Suniarius Sentill Segimon_Sigmund Sisemon Sisenand Salomó_Solomon Sisemon Sunyigot Siginolf
Tetbald_Theobald Toderich Teubert Teudrich
Udalard
Vidal Witeixa Wàlia Wamba
}
female_names = {
Adelaida_Adelaide Agnès_Agnes Alamanda Aldonça_Aldonza Algaburga Almodis_Almodis Angarina Anglesa Arnaua Arsenda_Arsenda Aurembaix Ava Beatriu Beliarda Berenguera Blanca_Blanche Brunisenda Caterina_Catherine Cecília Clemencia_ClementiaConstança_Constance
Dolça_Douce Eldionda Elionor_Eleanor Elisenda Ermenerda Ermessenda_Ermesinda Esclaramunda_Esclarmunda Estefania_Stephania Fides Flor_Flora Gaia Galceranda Gausfredina Gotruda Gueraua Guillelma Guinilda Guisla_Gisela Isabel_Elisabeth Joana_Joan
Jusiana Laura_Laura Letgarda Llúcia Mahalta Maior Margarida_Margaret Maria_Maria Marquesa Òria Ramona Ricarda_Ricarda Riquilda Sança_Sancha Saura Sibila_Sibylla Teresa_Teresa Timbor
Toda_Toda Urraca_Urraca València Violant_Yolanda Ximena
}
from_dynasty_prefix = "de "
male_patronym = " "
prefix = no
grammar_transform = french
pat_grf_name_chance = 60
mat_grf_name_chance = 20
father_name_chance = 20
pat_grm_name_chance = 40
mat_grm_name_chance = 25
mother_name_chance = 25
modifier = french_culture_modifier
}Thus everyone will have double names thanks to patronymics (which was historically the case in the XI-XIIIth Centuries. Someone can be called Raimon Raimon, but meh, it's better than to have no "Bernat Amell" or "Guillem Raimon" at all.
Names are a bit tweaked to sound more Occitan and archaic.
What's this french_culture_modifier? Do you have a definition for it somewhere, or should it just be changed to default_culture_modifier?
I don't know, the scary code-looking things I took them from Vanilla. If you think it's wrong, just put it to default.
hey rich yes thats the one duel mod also the taking family hostage and so on was really nice to dont know if it is with the mini mod
Taking family hostage is waylit's Dungeon and Sieges mod, which is already integrated.
Heh, see you're zooming my discussion with Shay
This battle with Messiah was left pending, though. Still, I wanted to state that no matter how you consider alternative history, some original mechanisms must happen... so as Slavic political system. Yet for game purposes I needed to agree with his statement.Hey, no "Russian" area on the left side of Bug river... :angry: Slavic at least, please. There are enough differences between Russian (Eastern Slavic) and rest of Slavic nations, so you would consider it separately.
Would it be possible to go down with bastard negative opinion for Slavs too? I know it might break delicate harmony in there... again (first time with polygynous marriages), but... Or maybe leave it for bastards, but take off of legitimized bastards.