[MOD] Lux Invicta

[Shaytana]

Going to post the new list once I figure it out ... Now where's my military history books? hehehehe.

OK NEW TRADITIONS LIST: Note that I made some compromises as a rule given I got to implement a load of building lines I bunched some together rather than add more buildings. This is about the maximum buildings I'm going to implement. (so for example,welsh and english were imperfectly bunched together - rather than give welsh a archers/light infantry tradition all of their own... as a rule I didn't want to have 1 tradition building line per culture - having too many buildings to implement = bad + the more buildings the more lag ) This list while not perfect seems ok to me...any feedback?

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archers/heavy infantry

english
welsh

heavy infantry/heavy cavalry

vandal
visigothic
lombard
suevic
bavarian
roman
romanogothic

heavy infantry/archers

swedish
norwegian
danish
varangian
saxon

heavy cavalry/heavy infantry

teutonic
burgundian
german
frankish
norman
occitan
greek

heavy infantry/light infantry

norsegael
galatian
dacian
prussian

heavy infantry/light cavalry

sabaean
andalusian_arabic
russian
georgian

pikemen/heavy cavalry

italian
hellenistic

pikemen/light infantry

scottish
dutch

light infantry/heavy infantry

slovene
irish
basque
ugricbaltic
lettigallish
pommeranian

light infantry/light cavalry

romanian
bosnian
sorbian
polabian

light infantry/archers

manden
nubian
ethiopian
breton
brython
finnish
lappish
komi

light cavalry/light infantry

castillan
catalan
lusitanian
portuguese
bulgarian
bedouin_arabic
maghreb_arabic
levantine_arabic
berber
croatian
nabatean

light cavalry/heavy cavalry

lithuanian
slovakian
bohemian
polish
serbian
magyar

heavy cavalry/horse archers

armenian
indohellenic
alan
persian

heavy cavalry/light cavalry

kurd
egyptian_arabic

horse archers/heavy cavalry

serindian
avar
bulgar
khazar
turkish
mongol
cuman
pecheneg
saka
parthian

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Looks good for now, How are technology levels looking?

 

[sir Eyeball]

I'm currently thinking about how to group cultures under Military Traditions. So far I'm thinking this way:

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archers

english
welsh

heavy infantry

norsegael
varangian
swedish
norwegian
danish
vandal
visigothic
teutonic
burgundian
lombard
suevic
bavarian
saxon
roman
romanogothic
dacian
galatian
prussian
sabaean
andalusian_arabic
russian
slovene

heavy cavalry

german
frankish
norman
occitan
armenian
greek
indohellenic
georgian
kurd
egyptian_arabic
alan
persian
bulgarian

pikemen

dutch
italian
hellenistic
scottish

light infantry

breton
romanian
basque
brython
irish
finnish
lappish
ugricbaltic
lettigallish
komi
pommeranian
manden
nubian
ethiopian
sorbian
polabian
bosnian

light cavalry

castillan
catalan
lusitanian
portuguese
lithuanian
bedouin_arabic
maghreb_arabic
berber
slovakian
bohemian
polish
croatian
serbian
magyar
levantine_arabic
nabatean

horse archers

serindian
avar
bulgar
khazar
turkish
mongol
cuman
pecheneg
saka

Any feedback? Tell me if you think a particular culture should be under another group and why. I'm also thinking maybe go a bit off the rails and adding a couple more cultures to the underrepresented traditions such as archers...maybe put Nabateans there.

Well not all archers were from the British isles I am sure every culture had their version of archers.

 

[Shaytana]

Looks good for now, How are technology levels looking?

What do you mean?

Well not all archers were from the British isles I am sure every culture had their version of archers.

Check my new traditions list in the other post -that is obsolete.

 

[Bloodmerchant]

Britons during the Arthurian age were heavy cavalry-oriented.

Nubians were heavily archer-based, they were famous for fending off Muslim invasions with their archery skills.

 

[sir Eyeball]

when the Normans conquered England they could do so mainly because they used cavalry where the Saxons had none.

 

[Shaytana]

Britons during the Arthurian age were heavy cavalry-oriented.

Nubians were heavily archer-based, they were famous for fending off Muslim invasions with their archery skills.

Nubians I put under light infantry/archers tradition because I didn't want to make an Archers/Light Infantry tradition. LI/ARCH kinda works as a compromise I think.

Brythons....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. This is quite a bit in the future from Arthurian days... I'm unsure about it... I mean I could I guess put them under HCAV/HI tradition... sort of to reflect Roman heritage more I guess...can't make my mind up.

when the Normans conquered England they could do so mainly because they used cavalry where the Saxons had none.

Saxons are Heavy Infantry/ Archers spec.

 

[sir Eyeball]

look good with the new traditions. Will say that the Norse actually had cavalry units with ponies much like the Icelandic ponies we see now. Prob. light cavalry.

 

[Shaytana]

look good with the new traditions. Will say that the Norse actually had cavalry units with ponies much like the Icelandic ponies we see now. Prob. light cavalry.

Aye, but given a choice of putting them into HI/LC and HI/ARCH, I'm going with archers for now, I just think that fits everything better overall.

 

[sir Eyeball]

Aye, but given a choice of putting them into HI/LC and HI/ARCH, I'm going with archers for now, I just think that fits everything better overall.

True. BTW Arthurian legends and the idea that they were great knights where written on a much later date so Cavalry not so much as horses had only arrived with the Romans and they where not big on cavalry. In fact all the cavalry the Romans used where mercs or from conquered provinces so there where not a lot of horses in Britain at the time. + the idea of the Knights in shining armour was really anachronistic as they first arrived well at the time this game starts at the earliest see the Norman conquest. And they where more like heavy infantry on horse than the Knights we see in the films they would not appear for at least a decade maybe two.

 

[Shaytana]

Sigh, adding all those buildings in takes ages, and I also heard the patch changed 177? files... I might not release an update tonight...or maybe very late before I go to bed hopefully.

True. BTW Arthurian legends and the idea that they were great knights where written on a much later date so Cavalry not so much as horses had only arrived with the Romans and they where not big on cavalry. In fact all the cavalry the Romans used where mercs or from conquered provinces so there where not a lot of horses in Britain at the time. + the idea of the Knights in shining armour was really anachronistic as they first arrived well at the time this game starts at the earliest see the Norman conquest. And they where more like heavy infantry on horse than the Knights we see in the films they would not appear for at least a decade maybe two.

Yes I actually agree with you. That's why so far I'm keeping Brythons in their current category unless I can be convinced otherwise.

 

[Bad_Haggis]

What do you mean?

Sry hard to express yourself properly on an iphone, on the first alpha version if i remeber correctly all nations had the same technology level, has this been changed? I noticed this when i could send a spy master to steal any tech because everyone was at the same level.

 

[sir Eyeball]

I cant wait till this mod is finished it really sound like the game as the game should be.

 

[sirandre]

Sigh, adding all those buildings in takes ages, and I also heard the patch changed 177? files... I might not release an update tonight...or maybe very late before I go to bed hopefully.

Take it easy sir. Just release it as you see fit. I dont think you need to rush. Thank you for your hard work so we may enjoy this great mod.

Do you plan to add any religious head for orthodox heretic sect such as coptic and nestorian patriach? I hope you can add them and make them landless like the pope of catholic church.

PS : do you know how can i make berber to use african unit sprite? Any help will be highly appreciated.

 

[Shaytana]

@Bad_Haggis
Tech levels are all at 0 because this mod does not end in 1453 (currently ends in 9999 -but the idea is it does not have an end date) and while I would love to add more tech levels atm I think we're stuck with 5, so having each culture research 5 levels is about as much as I can do. I sort of prefer the equal playing field on tech for now...the mod is sort of being balanced that way atm... although I could be convinced to give a lvl 1 tech advantage to some cultures, I just think that would most likely result in imbalance given the setup. Not sure yet really, I'll think on technology levels in the future - with the current system I'm implementing for instance you probably discover the technology before you get to build everything tied into it...there's so much stuff I'm adding.

@Sir Eyeball
Thank you...hopefully I'll make fast progress.

@sirandre
I'm thinking of adding more religious heads in the future yes - far down on the priorities list atm.

On unit sprites... I believe you go to 00_cultures file (in common\cultures) and you add graphical_unit_culture = _nameofspriteculture_ under the graphical_culture = berbergfx line. I'm not sure what the tag is for that sprite most likely africangfx

 

[mike the knight]

o god thsi sounds terrific i had not realised that it is practically endless ( Steppe Wolf for Ck2 arises ) ask for any help you may need i smell a momentous diamond right here

 

[Shaytana]

Well anything people can contribute - stuff like events or graphics for example I'd be glad to implement if they make them and I can use them or adapt them to be used. I still hope Cesar de Quart will show up and tell me he has some religious icons to give me. o

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On testing: I've noticed that in my current build the only nation that overperforms 100% is Sweden. Can anyone confirm Sweden is blobbing in their game? I'm getting the nerf bat ready...

On releasing something tonight: I will most likely not manage to release the update tonight...we'll see. In any case I'll be working on adding traditions till I go to bed, hopefully I will finish sooner than I expect to.

 

[mike the knight]

If you want some events for the Greek area i would be glad to try and create something

 

[Shaytana]

If you want some events for the Greek area i would be glad to try and create something

Go ahead see if you can come up with any ideas.

 

[mike the knight]

I consider some events about the southern part of balkans but i need some information ( sorry i donot remember some things in order to advance )