Introdution
This mod is my first attempt to reintroduce cross religion marriage back to CKII. It is modeled after marriage arrangement between different pagan sects. I tried my best to make my system follow the same criteria as vanilla, but due to the nature of CKII modding language, some factor might not be simulated correctly.
View attachment Interfaith Marriage.zip
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Usage Instruction
Unlike other mod, an addition step must be done in order to use this mod. After select your character and start your game, open console command by pressing "`" or "~" if you are using a Windows keyboard. Then type "neg_diplo" without the quotation marks and press enter.
The neg_diplo command will allow you to send marriage offer to infidel. Normally, the infidel will just send you a refusal letter. But if the infidel's opinion toward you is high enough, the refusal letter will come with an option for you to make the infidel "reconsider".
To avoid sending proposal that would be refuse, please remember these following rule:
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Some prominent issues:
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My long-term goal is overhaul the vanilla marriage system, not just interfaith marriage. So please tell me how do you want to change the marriage. Either increasing historical plausibility or adding more drama to the mating game, all ideas are welcomed.
I don't know how to make my mod compatible with other mod. But this is just a mini mod, therefore integrating should be easy. For any modder found my mod would be a nice addition to their big project, please PM me. I am happy when my work is useful for someone. And please give me credit, it is my honor to be a small part of your wonderful project.
This mod is my first attempt to reintroduce cross religion marriage back to CKII. It is modeled after marriage arrangement between different pagan sects. I tried my best to make my system follow the same criteria as vanilla, but due to the nature of CKII modding language, some factor might not be simulated correctly.
View attachment Interfaith Marriage.zip
External Download Link
Usage Instruction
Unlike other mod, an addition step must be done in order to use this mod. After select your character and start your game, open console command by pressing "`" or "~" if you are using a Windows keyboard. Then type "neg_diplo" without the quotation marks and press enter.
The neg_diplo command will allow you to send marriage offer to infidel. Normally, the infidel will just send you a refusal letter. But if the infidel's opinion toward you is high enough, the refusal letter will come with an option for you to make the infidel "reconsider".
To avoid sending proposal that would be refuse, please remember these following rule:
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- A standard marriage arrangement involves 4 character: YOU, your COURTIER, the TARGET and the AI.
From left to right: YOU, the COURTIER, the TARGET and the AI
From left to right: YOU, the COURTIER, the TARGET and the AI
- Please do NOT send proposal with a NO label to the AI having the same religion group with YOU. My mod does not interfere with such proposals, and the AI's answer is alway NO for this case. This mod, as its name states, only works with AI from different religion group.
- To marry a character in the infidel's court, the standard opinion requirement is 72. Please remember this number, because it is the base for other calculation. 72 is also the basic requirement to marry courtier tier character from infidel's court.
- If the TARGET is a close relative (parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, siblings or self) of the AI, the prestige effect will kick in. It will compare the tier of the COURTIER and tier of the TARGET. Tier is determined by the highest title hold by close relatives of the correspondent character. If the COURTIER's father is a Count, and his brother is an Emperor, he will be considered as Emperor tier. If the TARGET's father is a King, and her brother is a Duke, she will be considered as King tier for marriage purpose.
- The opinion requirement will reduce by 65 for every tier the COURTER is higher than the TARGET. Vice versa, the opinion requirement will increase by 65 for every tier the COURTER is lower than the TARGET,except for the first step ( if your COUTIER is lower than the TARGET two tiers, the requirement will increase by 65
NOT 130). Remember prestige effect will only apply when TARGET is a close relative of the AI.
- If the TARGET is younger than 20 and a close relative of the AI, then the COURTIER must also be a close relative of YOU. This is how desire alliance work in Vanilla. If the TARGET is 20 or older, the AI will stop desire alliance.
- If the TARGET is female, a close relative and pretender of AI's title, the opinion requirement is increase by 100. This factor represents "Prefer a matrilineal marriage" malus. Don't worry, it can be offset by other factors.
- If the TARGET is female, a close relative and heir of AI's title, or TARGET and AI is the same character, then the opinion requirement will be a lot higher. I have not figured out the exact formula for this case, but the opinion requirement will increase about 10-100 based on difference in tier.
- If a marriage might result in an alliance, relative power between YOU and AI will be considered. It compares the relative power between YOU and AI's top liege, as well as AI's strength over YOUR top liege. This mechanics is not complete, for now just remember the stronger you are, the lower the opinion requirement is. If you are weaker, the requirement will be higher.
- If your COURTIER is female, her age and attribute (martial, stewardship, etc...) will become factors. For every attribute point she has, the requirement will reduce by 2. Example, a female COURTIER with 10 diplomacy, 5 martial, 4 stewardship, 8 intrigue, 7 learning will lower the opinion requirement by (10 + 5 + 4 + 8 + 7)*2 = 68. At the same time, the age of the female COURTIER will increase the opinion requirement. Take the age of the COURTIER and minus by 15, then multiply it by 2, the result is the extra opinion you will need to seal the marriage. If your female COURTIER is 26 years old, you will need an extra (26-15)*2 = 22 opinion from the AI.
- If your COURTIER is female and older than 35, AI will never accept the marriage.
- If AI is YOUR vassal, the opinion requirement will reduce by 70
Some prominent issues:
- The mod has not been thoroughly tested yet. Please report any problem that you encounter.
- The current version only supports regular marriage. Betrothal and matrilineal marriage will be added if there is demand.
- Since this mod need a console command in order to function, it may not work in multiplayer. I can use a different approach and create a different version for muiltiplayer and player with console command allergy, just in case.
- I tried to simulate "Political concern" and knew that it is related to RP Friendship/RP Hostility, but exactly how it works is still a mystery for me.
- Dynasty prestige is not used to calculate prestige effect. I do not know any feasible method to access or calculate that data.
- My system might ignore death character when checking tier of a character.
Bla Bla Bla
My long-term goal is overhaul the vanilla marriage system, not just interfaith marriage. So please tell me how do you want to change the marriage. Either increasing historical plausibility or adding more drama to the mating game, all ideas are welcomed.
I don't know how to make my mod compatible with other mod. But this is just a mini mod, therefore integrating should be easy. For any modder found my mod would be a nice addition to their big project, please PM me. I am happy when my work is useful for someone. And please give me credit, it is my honor to be a small part of your wonderful project.
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