Is there a possibility to have some kind of in-game achievements, separated from official ones in the future?
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[MOD] Imperator Invictus
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Will anything be done at religious conversion at some point? This wasn't really a time of widespread religious conversion, but now in most games the whole middle-east is hellenistic after 100 to 150 years. They fixed cultural conversion nicely, that is going much slower and more realistic, while religious conversion is still extremely fast.
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In one of my sillier runs, migrating an istvaeonic tribe to conquer the lands south of egypt, I noticed that Kush will be of the "Kushite Vassal" type, I thought that was for nations Kush would Vassalize?
Another thing I was wondering: Are you waiting for a certain ammount of stuff before you release a patch, or do you release once some major parts are done?
Since I am really looking forward to the Istvaeonic missions, I was wondering if there is a chance they would be released once done, or if I have to wait for the next content patch, which would include more than just that.
Regardless, I really enjoy the mod, so thank you and the team for your hard work! =)
Another thing I was wondering: Are you waiting for a certain ammount of stuff before you release a patch, or do you release once some major parts are done?
Since I am really looking forward to the Istvaeonic missions, I was wondering if there is a chance they would be released once done, or if I have to wait for the next content patch, which would include more than just that.
Regardless, I really enjoy the mod, so thank you and the team for your hard work! =)
Hi, gotta say I love the mod and the subtle but very good changes and additions all around, it truly feels like Imperator 2.5 or something.
A small bug, but it might be intended (i’m not sure): Playing Scythia, trying to complete the Colchis mission tree, a local province rebelled, and the mission tree disappeared and I couldn’t select it again. The specific province that rebelled was the one that had the Batumi territory in it. Again, this might simply be the way the game works, so sorry if it’s a known feature/bug.
Godspeed, thank you for your passion and work.
A small bug, but it might be intended (i’m not sure): Playing Scythia, trying to complete the Colchis mission tree, a local province rebelled, and the mission tree disappeared and I couldn’t select it again. The specific province that rebelled was the one that had the Batumi territory in it. Again, this might simply be the way the game works, so sorry if it’s a known feature/bug.
Godspeed, thank you for your passion and work.
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Hello, is it worth waiting for a nation of Jaxarts ,Massagets? the massagets were supposed to be in vanilla!
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Hey having great fun with the game. Been doing some research into israelite history and have some suggestions:
1) maybe there should be some kind of mechanic to represent the separation of Ethnarch and High Priest? Atm it's only that one is a title in the cabinet but the role in Judea was far closer to that of the Co-Consul or Co-Sophet. Maybe some system like Sparta's dual monarchy could work? Creating hereditary lines and such and whoever gets the high priest in the gov screen would be the automatic only choice for it in the cabinet? I don't know the code, don't know if its possible.
2) During the Hasmonean period Judea also had the Sanhedrin, which IG would work more like the republic system (although with two parties), again I dont know if that is possible to introduce with a monarchy but maybe it is worth looking at?
3) I feel like there should be something distinguishing between Judeans and Samaritans, their religions are similar enough to be the same in imperator's scope (which has Roman and Greek hellenism as a single faith) so maybe culture? I wouldn't know if the samaritans have any unique individuals to worship but it might be worth introducing that for flavour.
1) maybe there should be some kind of mechanic to represent the separation of Ethnarch and High Priest? Atm it's only that one is a title in the cabinet but the role in Judea was far closer to that of the Co-Consul or Co-Sophet. Maybe some system like Sparta's dual monarchy could work? Creating hereditary lines and such and whoever gets the high priest in the gov screen would be the automatic only choice for it in the cabinet? I don't know the code, don't know if its possible.
2) During the Hasmonean period Judea also had the Sanhedrin, which IG would work more like the republic system (although with two parties), again I dont know if that is possible to introduce with a monarchy but maybe it is worth looking at?
3) I feel like there should be something distinguishing between Judeans and Samaritans, their religions are similar enough to be the same in imperator's scope (which has Roman and Greek hellenism as a single faith) so maybe culture? I wouldn't know if the samaritans have any unique individuals to worship but it might be worth introducing that for flavour.
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We'll be looking at it to see if we can rebalance it a bit
The Kushite vassal is probably a bug. As for the Germanic content, we'll be releasing it in one big content update probably.
We have no immediate plans to add them and they won't appear on the map I think.
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Hello guys. How are antigonids currently, are they worth playing or other factions are more fleshed out?
Edit: btw in my current campaign maurya is so damn op like in vanilla. It would be great to see some solution for this
Edit: btw in my current campaign maurya is so damn op like in vanilla. It would be great to see some solution for this
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You'll enjoy next DD then ;D
Macedon is the most fleshed out, then Egypt, Antigonids aren't made to win yet.
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That one deserves to be extra-emphasized - and I really like how it plays out. Rome is slowly but steadily rolling over the map and it took a different course in my game compared to the "HRE-route" you still often see in an unmodded game: First south, then targeting Illyria, interrupted by a first war vs. Etruscia, then Greece/Macedonia/Antigonids and right before the I took the screenshot a war vs. Veneto and the rest of Etruria (they even took over the Corsican parts of Etruria - something the regularly fail eith in vanilla):
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I'm with the same problem anymore and playing with Bactria after hours of campaigning one of the last missions of the first tree allows me to Eucratides assume the throne after I accept the family is emerging and falling into obscurity in an infinite loop, killing my characters loyalty causing civil war after 2 civil wars caused by this bug i was forced to abandon my campaign this is extremely frustrating
Another thing I noticed is that even though Diodotus appeared in Bactria he never takes the throne like he does in Vanilla Game.
Seriously if this bug is too complicated to solve it's better to take out the Bactria mission Tree as it is very annoying you spend hours in a Tree Mission that requires a lot of gold expenditure and political influence to in the end lose everything to a bug
Here is the image of the event that trapped me in an infinite loop.
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We do mention on the workshop page that in essence, the mission tree is broken and being reworked. It's an annoying bug though which we are trying to fix.I'm with the same problem anymore and playing with Bactria after hours of campaigning one of the last missions of the first tree allows me to Eucratides assume the throne after I accept the family is emerging and falling into obscurity in an infinite loop, killing my characters loyalty causing civil war after 2 civil wars caused by this bug i was forced to abandon my campaign this is extremely frustrating
Another thing I noticed is that even though Diodotus appeared in Bactria he never takes the throne like he does in Vanilla Game.
Seriously if this bug is too complicated to solve it's better to take out the Bactria mission Tree as it is very annoying you spend hours in a Tree Mission that requires a lot of gold expenditure and political influence to in the end lose everything to a bug
Here is the image of the event that trapped me in an infinite loop.
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Edit: damn, i dont know how to post gif apropriately
If I may put forward a suggestion. There is this invention in the religious tree called "major syncretism", basically what almost every single religion did back in this age. It reduces religious conversion with -90% but increasing unintegrated culture group happiness and omen power. What if this was the standard option albeit weaker and religious conversion (with new bonusses) was the invention? To me it would sound much more logical and also fit the timeframe better.
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DD28: Mauryan (collapse) Rework
Dev Diary 28: Mauryan (collapse) Rework
Salvete!
Today we'll be talking about a rework to Maurya and its collapse.
Hello all, Dementive here with a look into the future of Maurya and India in Invictus. In Vanilla, Maurya is an unstoppable monstrosity and regularly dominates India nearly every game with very little meaningful opposition. This is pretty boring and makes playing in and around India a nightmare, as you’ll have the hulking Mauryan mass to worry about at all times. As a player, Maurya is debatably the most boring tag in the whole game because of how easy it is. It’s like playing Ming in EU4, which is about as fun as watching paint dry.
To make Maurya more fun and gameplay more historically accurate, an event chain called “Mauryan Collapse” and multiple other Mauryan flavor events have been added. The events will essentially ensure that Ashoka eventually becomes the ruler of Maurya in roughly the way he did historically. Once Ashoka dies the Mauryan collapse event chain will begin:
The vanilla Mauryan decline heritage is now given through this event and can be removed later on. About 2 years after this event fires. Maurya will get an event called “Deccan Disunity” and the Satavahana dynasty and the Kalinga kingdom will declare independence.
This event can occur in a few ways: Kalinga and Satavahana might declare war on Maurya as soon as it fires, or Maurya might get an option to declare a truce or try to reconquest immediately.
Additionally, they may not declare independence at the same time but other times they will, giving the event a lot of variation from game to game.
The next event in the chain is the “Indo-Greek coalition” which will fire approximately 2-4 years after the Deccan Disunity event.
Up to five Indo-Greek Kings will declare themselves independent from Mauryan rule in the Punjab region and may temporarily ally with each other to fight off Maurya. The Mauryan player will have the option to declare war and retake the lands immediately or establish a 10 year truce. Everytime the event fires, the strength of the Indo-Greek coalition will vary from the last time, so this event can result in a variety of map states.
The final event in the chain is the “Shunga rebellion”. Historically, when the Shunga dynasty rebelled against Mauryan rule, they put an end to the Mauryan empire and established their own dynasty that ruled in their place. If the Shunga rebellion occurs, it is likely over for Maurya.
Mauryan Collapse Wargoal: A new wargoal has been made that is available to all countries that border Maurya after the death of Ashoka. The AI and the player can and will declare war on Maurya with this wargoal if they see them as weak.
We do realize that this event chain is more “historically railroaded” than most events in the game. However, we felt it was necessary to have a big scripted disaster for Maurya to make gameplay as and around them interesting as possible. A lot of testing is still needed to get the event chain just right so this may not be the final version you see in release.
Now you might ask yourself, “what if I'm playing Maurya and I don’t want to collapse?” Well too bad, you’re gonna collapse...just joking; a new mission tree has been made that becomes available when Ashoka is the ruler of Maurya that will allow you to prevent the collapse event chain. However, this mission tree will be failed if it is not completed before the death of Ashoka and then collapse will become inevitable.
Here is a quick look at the tree and some of the tasks:
***Keep in mind these modifiers, triggers, and effects may be changed***
This mission tree will be pretty hard to complete before Ashoka dies, so it’s a race against the clock to finish up the mission tasks in order to prevent looming collapse. With these changes, our hope is that Maurya will no longer be an overwhelming easy and stale tag to play and will actually be a bit of a challenge now.
Other things in India:
The Hindu caste laws and accompanying decisions made by Dustin for HMO have been integrated into Invictus and slightly adapted. These are available for all countries that are Hindu, Buddhist, or Jain religions. Each religion has a unique set of laws which give unique bonuses.
Here is a look at the Hindu laws:
To unlock these laws 3 new decisions were made for each progression of the laws, here is one of them:
Trade Good:
A new trade good has also been created that is present in very small amounts in India: Sugar.
Sugar is only present in 3 provinces at game start, but it will play a big role in some Indian mission trees and events moving forward.
---Now back to Snowlet:
We promised more beautiful backgrounds for this DD but we’ll keep them for next DD instead along with a new mechanic as our planning has been slightly altered. Anyway, hope you enjoyed the DD as I know many of you have been waiting for Maurya.
Also for those who may have missed, the new Age of Iron mod is out and worth checking out, it’s made by a lone dev on a vanilla map but an iron age setting: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2660002180
Salvete!
Today we'll be talking about a rework to Maurya and its collapse.
Hello all, Dementive here with a look into the future of Maurya and India in Invictus. In Vanilla, Maurya is an unstoppable monstrosity and regularly dominates India nearly every game with very little meaningful opposition. This is pretty boring and makes playing in and around India a nightmare, as you’ll have the hulking Mauryan mass to worry about at all times. As a player, Maurya is debatably the most boring tag in the whole game because of how easy it is. It’s like playing Ming in EU4, which is about as fun as watching paint dry.
To make Maurya more fun and gameplay more historically accurate, an event chain called “Mauryan Collapse” and multiple other Mauryan flavor events have been added. The events will essentially ensure that Ashoka eventually becomes the ruler of Maurya in roughly the way he did historically. Once Ashoka dies the Mauryan collapse event chain will begin:
The vanilla Mauryan decline heritage is now given through this event and can be removed later on. About 2 years after this event fires. Maurya will get an event called “Deccan Disunity” and the Satavahana dynasty and the Kalinga kingdom will declare independence.
This event can occur in a few ways: Kalinga and Satavahana might declare war on Maurya as soon as it fires, or Maurya might get an option to declare a truce or try to reconquest immediately.
Additionally, they may not declare independence at the same time but other times they will, giving the event a lot of variation from game to game.
The next event in the chain is the “Indo-Greek coalition” which will fire approximately 2-4 years after the Deccan Disunity event.
Up to five Indo-Greek Kings will declare themselves independent from Mauryan rule in the Punjab region and may temporarily ally with each other to fight off Maurya. The Mauryan player will have the option to declare war and retake the lands immediately or establish a 10 year truce. Everytime the event fires, the strength of the Indo-Greek coalition will vary from the last time, so this event can result in a variety of map states.
The final event in the chain is the “Shunga rebellion”. Historically, when the Shunga dynasty rebelled against Mauryan rule, they put an end to the Mauryan empire and established their own dynasty that ruled in their place. If the Shunga rebellion occurs, it is likely over for Maurya.
Mauryan Collapse Wargoal: A new wargoal has been made that is available to all countries that border Maurya after the death of Ashoka. The AI and the player can and will declare war on Maurya with this wargoal if they see them as weak.
We do realize that this event chain is more “historically railroaded” than most events in the game. However, we felt it was necessary to have a big scripted disaster for Maurya to make gameplay as and around them interesting as possible. A lot of testing is still needed to get the event chain just right so this may not be the final version you see in release.
Now you might ask yourself, “what if I'm playing Maurya and I don’t want to collapse?” Well too bad, you’re gonna collapse...just joking; a new mission tree has been made that becomes available when Ashoka is the ruler of Maurya that will allow you to prevent the collapse event chain. However, this mission tree will be failed if it is not completed before the death of Ashoka and then collapse will become inevitable.
Here is a quick look at the tree and some of the tasks:
***Keep in mind these modifiers, triggers, and effects may be changed***
This mission tree will be pretty hard to complete before Ashoka dies, so it’s a race against the clock to finish up the mission tasks in order to prevent looming collapse. With these changes, our hope is that Maurya will no longer be an overwhelming easy and stale tag to play and will actually be a bit of a challenge now.
Other things in India:
The Hindu caste laws and accompanying decisions made by Dustin for HMO have been integrated into Invictus and slightly adapted. These are available for all countries that are Hindu, Buddhist, or Jain religions. Each religion has a unique set of laws which give unique bonuses.
Here is a look at the Hindu laws:
To unlock these laws 3 new decisions were made for each progression of the laws, here is one of them:
Trade Good:
A new trade good has also been created that is present in very small amounts in India: Sugar.
Sugar is only present in 3 provinces at game start, but it will play a big role in some Indian mission trees and events moving forward.
---Now back to Snowlet:
We promised more beautiful backgrounds for this DD but we’ll keep them for next DD instead along with a new mechanic as our planning has been slightly altered. Anyway, hope you enjoyed the DD as I know many of you have been waiting for Maurya.
Also for those who may have missed, the new Age of Iron mod is out and worth checking out, it’s made by a lone dev on a vanilla map but an iron age setting: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2660002180
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Fast turning into a true classic mod for the Roman era, if it isn't already!
There's so many small changes from Vanilla that are required it's hard to mention them all.
Could you guys do anything about reducing the impact of AE on other nations opinion around you? It's fine for nations of 'equal' or greater power than you to lose opinion of high AE but its annoying when small nations get annoyed at you expanding quickly and then not accepting vassalage at all but instead choosing war as the only viable method of expansion.
There's so many small changes from Vanilla that are required it's hard to mention them all.
Could you guys do anything about reducing the impact of AE on other nations opinion around you? It's fine for nations of 'equal' or greater power than you to lose opinion of high AE but its annoying when small nations get annoyed at you expanding quickly and then not accepting vassalage at all but instead choosing war as the only viable method of expansion.
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This is going to be amazing! I was hoping that someone would set the Maurya collapse in motion and you surpassed all expectations.
Are there plans for something similar for a Seleucid or Seleucid-adjacent empire? In my last playthroughs they've always remained massive and healthy
Are there plans for something similar for a Seleucid or Seleucid-adjacent empire? In my last playthroughs they've always remained massive and healthy
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