[MOD] Homeland, an ahistorical mod for Darkest Hour

[novapaddy]

Are you sure? It's one thing to start a mod in E3, but converting a preexisting one sounds like a rather lot of work.

Yeah, I think the E3 map will make things much more realistic.
At the moment when JAP invades the USA, becuase there are fewer provinces, JAP can take over the west coast fairly quickly. With the E3 map, it will make the USA feel more like a continent, and take much longer to do.

Also invasions elsewhere by ENG or FRA will be much more spaced out, harder to defend etc etc.

So, yes although a lot of work to do, I think it will be done eventually.

 

[mikey1871]

I might yet do this mod for the E3 map. I just need to get used to working with the E3 map and let it become routine.

Your mod is fantastic!!! It's one of my favorites. But playing with the additional stuff of the E3 map just makes the game last longer. I'd also like to see the need for more provinces to be victory points to annex a country. But that's just me. I'm very happy with whatever you decide to do.

 

[novapaddy]

Your mod is fantastic!!! It's one of my favorites. But playing with the additional stuff of the E3 map just makes the game last longer. I'd also like to see the need for more provinces to be victory points to annex a country. But that's just me. I'm very happy with whatever you decide to do.

Thanks mikey1871 for your continuing support. It helps a lot!

 

[SniperX53]

Yes, I just wanted to say myself that I thoroughly enjoy this mod, and it's most definitely unique in the sea of mods that already flood the community, most of which are fantastic too, but this one is just a one of a kind if you ask me.

I've also seen much of your work, Nova. And I think you're very talented and a brilliant person, and I'm adamant that everyone else will agree with me on that. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to future updates across the board o

 

[delanonne]

Hey NP I want to jump on the bandwagon. I think you do great work also. I really like this mod. The first time I played as the US I was slowly carved up like a turkey. It was great. I will just be happy with a version for 1.04 that I can play as soon as you have it ready.
delanonne

 

[novapaddy]

Jeez Guys, flattery will get you everywhere... Thanks. DH1.04 throws up a gazillion E3 map errors, so will be a while.

 

[mikey1871]

Jeez Guys, flattery will get you everywhere... Thanks. DH1.04 throws up a gazillion E3 map errors, so will be a while.

Actually, i think everyone should just stop with the dang 1.04 update crap until the 1.04 actually is "Set in stone". that's the major problem we all had with the various 1.03's that came out. those made modding a living hell. You wait til the actual real NEW version of complete 1.04 DH comes out then your update the mods. Also the team who is making the 1.04 should be putting up the changes so that the makers of the mods can more easily incorporate the 1.04 changes into their already established mods.

One thing that the makers of the mods should be able to do is extremely strongly suggest that the E3 map is fully incorporated into the DH 1.04 update, period.

I mean after all, DH is not a 1-2 hour game. It's a many weeks game of not more of a gamers real time.

In any event, the beta's of DH 1.04 aren't mandatory to use. so personally i think the modders should not really heed the players who immediately advocate for updating the mod to whatever the latest 1.04 beta that is out... Lets have a little more class than the Kardasians LOL

 

[novapaddy]

Homeland runs on top of Darkest Hour, so to change Homeland to the E3 map, I first have to do the E3 map for DH. I am doing this now. Will be a few weeks yet. Worth the wait!

Homeland was messed up by the changes made to DH1.03 and I never really got around to fixing them. My intention is to redo the Homeland mod from scratch for the E3 map. This will overcome these problems.

 

[Medibee]

Is there any more progress, or are you still converting the e3 map? I think I may have missed a post from the forum switch over.

 

[novapaddy]

Is there any more progress, or are you still converting the e3 map? I think I may have missed a post from the forum switch over.

Hello Medibee, thanks for your interest in the mod.
I'm the sort of person who is easily distracted into trying out new things or better ways of doing things. At the moment I'm playing Citi Skylines and enjoying it immensely. When I get fed up with that I will return to dh as modding is far more demanding and interesting than playing games. "I'll be back!"

It is also good for the spirit to have a break every now and then.

 

[Medibee]

So the mod's on hold right now? Well, when you do decide to continue it please do tell us.

 

[mikey1871]

hello nova, so not to be a bigger pest than i already am, but is your break over soon so you can get back to revising your awesome mod currently called "homeland". and just call it Patricia z7 formerly called homeland!!!

fuck those greedy idiotic assholes in american hollywood

 

[novapaddy]

hello nova, so not to be a bigger pest than i already am, but is your break over soon so you can get back to revising your awesome mod currently called "homeland". and just call it Patricia z7 formerly called homeland!!!

fuck those greedy idiotic assholes in american hollywood

Yes, I am tiring of Cities Skylines as after a while it is just rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat... If I am to get back into Homeland, I would prefer to use the E3 map, would be interesting to have a much bigger USA and more realistic for invasions etc. I mean the USA player would not be overwhelmed so quickly as with the dh map.

EDIT: I would need to start all over again, as the last time Homeland worked like I wanted was dh1.02, which is a long time ago...

I am very busy in work, so I won't have the kind of time I used to have. I'm off to Belarus next week, and Algeria after that. Now they are talking of going to India.... but that will be months away. Then again, flight time means modding time...

 

[novapaddy]

The main problem with Homeland and dh1.04 is there are approximately 60 extra units in Homeland and in DH1.04, the techs were totally redone, which means there would be a LOT of work changing the techs for each of the extra 60 units.

BUT, of course in my travels in dh, I have discovered other ways of doing units. Possibly easier ways?

I have always wanted to do a WIF2 soviet response to FT's pretty much GER based mod.
I have wanted to use the E3 map in a mod for quite some time now.
I have wanted to redo Homeland and do it better.
I have wanted to try out some new ideas which I had for a totally different mod.

SO, starting this evening I will start and hopefully combine the above into a mod I can be happy with when done.
Dh1.04, E3 map, WIF2 as base so I can do the SOV response ( SOV will have tanks!), units done differently, probably 1935 start, I'll see how it works? May do the vanilla units a bit differently to suit my new ideas? Yes I can feel the anticipation build as my mind turns to creating something a bit different and definitely new.

I have been working on-and-off on ideas and getting data and information, so I think it is time to stop thinking and planning, and start doing...

 

[novapaddy]

Jeez that was too easy....

I have Wif2 opening up in the E3 map and it took me about 10 minutes work!! Of course it is ONLY a map, but all the much loved wif2/dh graphics are there (my favorite). Looks like the Gods are smiling in my favour... I am not daunted by any difficulties, I carry on...

 

[OneAussieMan777]

Jeez that was too easy....

I have Wif2 opening up in the E3 map and it took me about 10 minutes work!! Of course it is ONLY a map, but all the much loved wif2/dh graphics are there (my favorite). Looks like the Gods are smiling in my favour... I am not daunted by any difficulties, I carry on...

If it helps, kodak has a scenario editor which could prove useful...

 

[novapaddy]

If it helps, kodak has a scenario editor which could prove useful...

Thanks OneAussieMan777, but I don't use machine tools, I prefer the hammer and chisel.

I've been struggling with the Homeland extra 60 units and now with the E3 map: do I still use them as before, or do I at least trim the back as I worry about overload with so many E3 map provinces and then the 60 extra units, could it be just too much for the game?

I had come up with a novel way to create units but this was for a very specific and narrow mod I had in mind. GER vs USSR. Now I intend to include this mod in Homeland.

It is always important to have a clear and set idea when you start modding, as if you change your mind constantly, you lose momentum and purpose. This morning I will have to review my ideas and settle on ONE.

 

[mikey1871]

EDIT: I would need to start all over again, as the last time Homeland worked like I wanted was dh1.02, which is a long time ago...

I am very busy in work, so I won't have the kind of time I used to have. I'm off to Belarus next week, and Algeria after that. Now they are talking of going to India.... but that will be months away. Then again, flight time means modding time...

WOW all the cool places you get to go for work... Very nice I'd ask what you do for work but you might have to shoot me afterwards. Congrats on surviving your cancer though !!!!

 

[novapaddy]

I service laboratory instruments. Thanks for the good wishes.

I'm working on Homeland, steadily, getting rid of map errors as well. Errors irk me! Nothing serious, just "wrong continent" etc.
I've decided to keep with the vanilla units, add just a couple more, and if I need a specific unit, I'll add it by event. In this way I'm hoping to keep the strain minimal for the E3 map. We will see...

I'm also adding more brigades and having the possibility of them being independent. I may get rid of Divisions all together and just have Brigades and Regiments instead. My theory is: Bigger Map = smaller units, so you have more units to be able to spread them out; as if you just have Divisions, then you won't have so many units. Make Sense?

 

[delanonne]

I service laboratory instruments. Thanks for the good wishes.

I'm working on Homeland, steadily, getting rid of map errors as well. Errors irk me! Nothing serious, just "wrong continent" etc.
I've decided to keep with the vanilla units, add just a couple more, and if I need a specific unit, I'll add it by event. In this way I'm hoping to keep the strain minimal for the E3 map. We will see...

I'm also adding more brigades and having the possibility of them being independent. I may get rid of Divisions all together and just have Brigades and Regiments instead. My theory is: Bigger Map = smaller units, so you have more units to be able to spread them out; as if you just have Divisions, then you won't have so many units. Make Sense?

Hey NP Homeland is great and I cannot wait to play it on the new map. However you want to do it if fine. We can playtest it for you and provide feedback and opinions. Keep up the great work. I am one of your biggest fans. Us old guys gotta stick together.
delanonne