[MOD] High Kings, Consuls and other crazy things. A localisation mod.

[MOD] High Kings, Consuls and other crazy things. A localisation mod.

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Description:
This mod aims at flavorful, but comprehensible, titles for most of the vanilla cultures such as Boyars and Grand Boyars for the russians, Petty Kings and Overkings for the irish or a Negus for the ethiopians. The time span aimed at for titles is generally in the early middle ages but some exceptions can be made.

With the mod now released, I ask only that you give me your opinion, suggestions, and post if you see any errors!

Link:
Version 2.4 is out!
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Features:

  • Localisations for emperor tier titles (Empereur, Hypatos..)
  • Flavorful king, duke, count, baron, religious and republican titles (High King, First Mayor..)
  • French translations for all titles (Most titles translated in German and Spanish as well)
  • Localisations for the High Priest titles of the various reformed pagans
  • Unique names for reformed religions

Thanks:



Compatibility:

Compatible with any mod. But if you use it with a mod that adds cultures or title localisations, some changes might be overridden.
I have also released Project Balance and Viet (Which also works with PB+Viet) compatible versions included in the .7zip file.

Changelog:
1.1
  • Added west and east african, zoroastrian, pagan and muslim localisations
  • Changed Doge and Serene Doge to First Mayor or Voivode and High Chancellor in german related and slavic related cultures
  • Changed Doge to Lord Magistrate in latin related cultures (except italian)
  • Changed Irish localisations
  • Changed certain Lord Mayor titles
  • Added Project Balance, Viet and PB+Viet compatible versions
2.0
  • Added Norse localisations
  • Localised the High Priest and High Priestess titles in various pagan religions
  • Added Mordvin and Samoyed localisations
2.1
  • Changed the irish king title from high king to overking and the emperor title from Impire to Ard Ri to fix the weird appearance of petty high kings.
  • Added roman titles for those who want more immersion if playing as a roman (No roman characters ingame, you will need the ruler designer)
2.2
  • Added Viet and PB compatible versions
  • Made a few bugfixes
2.3
General Changes
  • Typo and bug fixes
  • Complete French translation
  • Grand Princes now called High Chancellors or Federal Chancellors and rule over a confederation (With a few exceptions)
  • Most Prince Mayors now called Chancellors
  • Republican Chancellors now called Ambassadors
  • Republican Councillors now get their proper cultural localisations, this fixes a bug in vanilla ck2 where republican councillors had no cultural/religious localisations
  • Hungarian Dukes are now called Bans and rule over a Bannat
  • Iberian barons are now called Hidalgos
  • Russian Kings and Dukes are now called Grand Knyazs and Knyazs
  • German Barons are now called Burgraves and rule over a Burgraviate
  • Polish barons are now called Castellans and rule over a Castellany
  • Added unique titles (from Barons to Emperors) for the sinic cultures in Viet

West Germanic
  • English Grand Princes are now called Lord Protectors
  • Saxon Lord Mayors and Mayors now called Shire-Reeves and Reeves
  • Saxon Barons now called Thegns

West African
  • Empresses now called Mansa Quasa
  • Kings and Queens are called Faama and Quasa
  • Prince Mayors now called Maghan
  • Dukes and Duchesses now called Farba and Farbasa
  • Counts and Countesses now called Farin and Farina

South Slavic
  • Croatian dukes are now called Bans and rule over a Bannat
  • Bulgarian and Serbian emperors now called Tsars

Pagans
  • Finnish pagan religion now called Finnic and Suomenusko when reformed
  • Norse pagan religion now called Asatru when reformed
  • Baltic pagan religion now called Baltic and Romuva when reformed
  • Slavic pagan religion now called Rodonovery when reformed
  • Altaic pagan religion now called Altaic and Tengri when reformed
  • West African pagan religion now called Akan when reformed
  • Finnish pagan head priests now called Päänpappi and Päänpappitar
  • Baltic pagan head priests now called Kriwe and Kriwe Ponia
  • Slavic pagan head priests now called Hlava Knez and Hlava Knazka
  • West African pagan head priests now called Kungo Hogon and Musoo Hogon
  • West African pagan head priests now called Quetzalcoatl
  • Norse pagan Hierophants and Archpriests now called Allsherjargodi and Hofgodi
  • Norse pagan Counts now called Thanes
  • Pagan Republics are now called Elderships and ruled over by Princes
  • Added unique Baltic pagan imperial titles, they are now Karalui Karaluis (King of Kings) and they rule over a High Kingdom
  • Baltic pagan kings, dukes and counts now called Grand Kunigais, Kunigais and Bajoras
  • Hellenic pagans now use Roman titles

North Germanic
  • Norse and Norse-Gael Lord Mayors and Mayors now called Lagman and Alderman
  • Norse Gael Kings, Dukes, Counts and Barons now called Kings, Jarls, Tigernas and Þegns

Muslim
  • Fixed a bug where the unique title for muslim king tier republics did not apply
  • Emperor tier theocracies now called Grand Caliphates and are ruled by a Grand Caliph
  • Arabic and Iranian Patricians now respectively called Rais and Pashas

Latin
  • Latin Grand Mayors no longer called Lord Magistrates
  • Roman Baronesses now called Dominas
  • Roman Lord Mayors and Mayors now called Praefectus Urbanus and Praefectus
  • Italian and Sicilian Lord Mayors now called Podestas

Finno-Ugric
  • Finnish and Lappish dukes are no longer called Jarls
  • Added Latvian based unique imperial titles for the Ugric-Baltic and Komi cultures
  • Added finnish and hungarian based unique imperial titles for the Samoyed and Mordvin

Christian
  • Theocratic empires now called See
  • King-Bishops are now called Patriarchs and rule over a Patriarchate

Celtic
  • Irish counts and Barons are now called Tigernas and Chiefs and rule over a Tuatha and a Tuath
  • Scottish Dukes and Counts are now called Mormaers and Thanes, they rule over a Mormaerdom and a Thanage
  • Scottish Grand Mayors, Lord Mayors and Mayors are now called Princes, Lord Provosts and Provosts
  • Welsh Grand Mayors no longer called First Mayors
  • Welsh Counts and Barons are now called Teyrns and Lords, they rule over a Lordship and a Castle
  • Breton Grand Mayors no longer called Lord Magistrates
  • Pictish Feudal titles now Wledig Uchel/Overking/Mormaer/Teyrn/Chief

Byzantine
  • Non-Greek Grand Mayors no longer called Lord Magistrates
  • Armenian dukes are called Meliks and they rule over a Melikdom
  • Georgian Emperors and Empresses are now called Mepe-Mepeta and Dedopali-Dedoplebis

Baltic
  • Fixed Lettigalish culture using Ugric-Baltic localisations
  • Added unique latvian based lettigalish imperial titles
  • Lettigalish dukes are called Princes
  • Lithuanian and Lettigalish Grand Mayors are called Voivodes

2.4:
General:
  • Turkish Patricians now called Pashas
  • Bannat now called Banate (Duchy)
  • Fixed Serbian Tribune title not appearing properly (City King)

Zoroastrian:
  • Shahanshah rules over a Atash i-Shahanshahdom (Temple Empire)
  • Dastur i-Shah rules over a Atash i-Shahdom (Temple Kingdom)
  • Dastur rules over a Atash i-Vahram (Temple Duchy)
  • Mobad rules over a Atash i-Adaran (Temple County)
  • Herbad rules over a Atashkada (Temple Barony)

Iranian:
  • Banebshenan Banebshen (Female Empress)
  • Shahzada (Prince)
  • Shahzadokth (Princess)
  • Shahanshah (City Emperor)
  • Sardar-i-Bozorg rules over a Shahr-i-Bozorg (City Kingdom)
  • Sardar rules over a Shahr (City Duchy)
  • Dihqan-i-Bozorg (City Count)
  • Pasha (Patrician)

Romanian:
  • Cezar and Cezarina (Emperor and Empress)
  • Consuls rule a Senate (City Empire)
  • Tribunes rule over a Grand Republic (City Kingdom)
  • Bans rule over a Banate (Duchy)
  • Voivode (City Duchy)
  • Boyars rule over a Boyardom (Barony)

Beta:
Github, if you check in the Beta Branch you can see all the new titles for the next update. By clicking on the Download zip button you can download the beta.
 
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I see that you have not yet added some cultures. Besides, more entries can be localized - like temple holdings (temple_barony, temple_county etc.)

For example, I use Lavra for localisation of russian temple baronies.
 

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I can help you to finish the french localisation if you want :)
 

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Forgot about those entries, thanks! And what cultures have I forgotten? I wrote down all those listed in the ruler designer.

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That would be great! I did a basic write down of what I found most interesting but I would love to get your opinion. I believe it is possible to leave a commentary by right clicking on a cell and clicking on insert commentary, just leave your suggestions that way, but remember, I am not looking for the actual french translations of the titles (except for emperor tier and minor titles), but for flavorful english translations of the actual french titles. But of course an exception can be made when the actual translation fits well with English, like Jarl or Thane.
 

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My bad, I didn't see the tabs at the first glance :)

I would recommend two things - the first is freezing the first row and first column of the spreadsheet to make navigation easy; the second is marking the completed entries with bold, to see which areas need attention.

You will also have to fill more entries for localisation: each title needs foa (form of address), e.g. city_duke_foa_russian. Then you will need 'holding of' for each type of holding - e. g. city_duchy_of_russian. Plus, perhaps you will want family palaces, so I would recommend looking at vanilla localisation:

PALACE_NAME;$DYNASTY$ Palace;Palais de $DYNASTY$;$DYNASTY$-Palast;;Palacio de $DYNASTY$;;;;;;;;;x
family_palace;Palace;Palais;Palast;;Palacio;;;;;;;;;x
family_palace_baron;Patrician;Patricien;Patrizier;;Patricio;;;;;;;;;x
family_palace_baron_female;Lady;Dame;Lady;;Seсora;;;;;;;;;x
family_palace_barony_of;Palace of;Palais de;Palast von;;Palacio de;;;;;;;;;x
family_palace_baron_foa;Sir;Sire;Sir;;Seсor;;;;;;;;;x

In addition to cultural titles, you may also want to add religious localisation - for more flexibility. For example, religious holdings should probably be defined holder's religion, not by culture.
 

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Wow, that freezing trick is a godsend! I have added the patrician titles and created a new religion tab, but how does the form of address work in vanilla for barons, counts, dukes, kings and emperors?
 

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Princes are possible, Crown Princes not as far as I know. For instance:

Code:
title_prince_georgian;Tavadi;Tavadi;Tavadi;;Tavadi;;;;;;;;;x

Also, feel free to use the flavor titles in my VIET mod, I've got quite a number in my Core module (though not as many or as insanely comprehensive as SWMH). You can go to the main thread in my signature to see the list of titles alongside my other features, so feel free to take what you want (note that the feature list is a tad out of date, but almost all the titles I have are included).
 

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I thought about that, but decided against it since it happened almost 200 years after the game's time-frame and happened under special circonstances. But I am planning to work on more precise regional mods after this one, so it might make the cut then.
 

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I thought about that, but decided against it since it happened almost 200 years after the game's time-frame and happened under special circonstances. But I am planning to work on more precise regional mods after this one, so it might make the cut then.
But any better exemple for the game time? The same issue do you have with Reichspräsident for Germany. It's 400 years later. After the Grimm dictionary the term Präsident came in the German language in the 16th century... So it's absolutly wrong. I would change it to Reichskanzler. Kanzler was already used at this time. Archchancellor had a little bit another meaning... But it's better then any Präsident at this time.

And change Kaiserinwitwe to Kaiserinmutter. A witwe is a widow.

And your translation of Court Jester and Court Dwarf is wrong. Court isn't Gericht in German. Gericht is only the juristical Court. The noble cout is Hof. Gericht Hofnarr would be Court Court Jester. Hofnarr and Hofzwerg would be right.

Other points:
Master of the Horse would be "Pferdemeister" or "Meister der Pferde". But a better choice would be Stallmeister. Master of the Hunt would be "Jägermeister". The "master of the hounds" would be in the modern language "Pikör" from the french. I don't now a historical term for it. "Hundemeister" eventually. Hohe Almhofer for High Almoner is absolutly wrong. "Großalmosenier" would be right. (In french it should be "Grand aumônier"). Hüter der Schwäne would sound better as "Schwanenhüter"
 
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The time span I am aiming at is mostly the early middle ages. A huge thanks for those suggestions, I am having alot of troubles with the translated minor titles so any suggestion is welcomed. As for the german republican titles, you are absolutely right and I will change them right away.

Edit: Is anybody aware if it is possible to localise consort titles for other people than kings?
 
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Update!

Changelog:
1.1

Added west and east african, zoroastrian, pagan and muslim localisations
Changed Doge and Serene Doge to First Mayor or Voivode and High Chancellor in german related and slavic related cultures
Changed Doge to Lord Magistrate in latin related cultures (except italian)
Changed Irish localisations
Changed certain Lord Mayor titles
Added Project Balance, Viet and PB+Viet compatible versions
 

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Updated to 1.10!

Changelog for version 2.0

Added Norse localisations
Norse Emperors are now called Har Konungrs and rule over a high kingdom alongside their Har Drottning
Norse republican titles are now High Chief/Prince/Grand Prince/Frábær Höfðingja
Pagan patricians are now called Elders
Localised the High Priest and High Priestess titles in various pagan religions
Suomenusko; Ylipappi and Ylipapitar
Romuva; Vyriausiasis Kunigas and Didelis Vaidilute
Slavic; Vel'knaz and Vel'knazka
Added Mordvin and Samoyed localisations (Put the same ones as the Komi, did not know what to put, any suggestions?)

Do any of you have better ideas for the High Priest titles? And I am still missing the tengri, the aztecs and the west africans.
My sources on the Finno-Ugric are shabby at best, anyone have a better idea?

Edit: PB, Viet, and PB + Viet versions will come later