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generalolaf's Localisation Enhancement Mod
A small modification for Crusader Kings II

This is the result of my dissatisfaction with some of the naming conventions in vanilla. Essentially, it gives specific localisations for certain titles when held by certain cultures - for example, Wales is now Brythonia when held by a Welsh-cultured person (as most people who claimed that title called themselves 'king of the Britons' and none called themselves Welsh). Only a few titles are changed at the moment and the mod isn't feature-complete - eventually I plan to give most titles names for local cultures, leaving the current ones for foreigners (except in a few cases such as the HRE, which will become Germania for most religions when I work out how to do that). Version 0.1 is working as far as I'm aware, and you can download that from the bottom of the post.

Future plans:
-Finish cultural title renaming/adjective localisation
----Rename Volga Bulgaria to Volga for everyone except Mordvins, Bolghars and Bulgarians
----Rename Byzantine Empire to Empire of Asia Minor for non-Hellenes/Christians (who will call it the Eastern Roman Empire)
----Rename HRE to Empire of Germania for non-Hellenes/Christians (Catholics/Catholic heresies will call it the HRE, Orthodox, Miaphysites, Hellenes and associated heresies will call it the Western Roman Empire)
----Many other (smaller) cultural renames
-Change localisation for Emperors for most Empires
-Remove some of the more ridiculous culture restrictons on kingdom and empire titles and apply some cultural renames (eg. for Volga Bulgaria so it can be formed by all the local tribes)
-Implement more changes to titles for reformed pagan religions (thanks to gis) and the Hellenic pagans

Conundrums (all the things I'm thinking about and am looking for suggestions on)
-Better name for a Bolghar Tartaria?
-Suitable cultural renames for the duchies and kingdom of Finland
-Should the Norse name for Scotland (Skotland) have an 'r' at the end? I read somewhere that denotes a proper noun.
-Can you rename titles based on religion/culture group? How?

Compatibility
Should be compatible with any mod that doesn't change any of these files:
---common/landed_titles/landed_titles.txt
---common/religions/00_religions.txt
---common/localisation/v_1.103.csv

Changelogs

GOLEM 0.3:
-landed_titles:

---Tartaria is now Mongolia when ruled by a Mongol (instead of Mongol Empire) and Scythia when ruled by an Alan
---Tartaria can now be formed by Alans
---Emperors of Britannia are now called High Kings, and Empresses are High Queens (temporary, as I have a few more elegant solutions to the 'many emperors' problem)
-localisation:
---Specific titles for reformed Romuva pagans (count/baron/prince etc.) done by gis
---Several gods added to the Romuva faith (done by gis)
---Fixed issue where the Baltic Empire's wars would be called 'Wendish...' / Brythonia would be 'Welsh...' etc.
-religions:
---Added unique name for high priest and holy war for Romuva (done by gis)

Previous changelogs
GOLEM 0.2:
-landed_titles:
---Wales is now Brythonia when held by a Welsh cultured ruler (instead of Cymru)
---Tartaria is now Great Khazaria when held by a Khazar ruler, Great Cumania when held by a Cuman ruler, Bolgharistan when held by a Bolghar ruler, Mongol Empire when held by a Mongol ruler and Siberia when held by a Russian ruler
---Volga Bulgaria can now be formed by Finno-Ugric and East Slavic cultures

GOLEM 0.1:
-landed_titles:

---Wales is now Cymru when held by a Welsh cultured ruler #changed in a later version
---Wales is now Brythonia when held by a Breton or Irish cultured ruler
---Lithuania is now Lettigallia when held by a Lettigallian cultured ruler
---Lithuania is now Prussia when held by a Prussian cultured ruler
---Lithuania is now Estland when held by an Estonian cultured ruler
---Wendish Empire is now Baltic Empire when held by a Lettigallian, Lithuanian, Prussian or Estonian cultured ruler
---Byzantine Empire is now Eastern Roman Empire when held by a Greek cultured ruler

All suggestions/help welcomed (please)

Acknowledgements
Thanks to:
--gis for the changes to reformed Romuva titles (and others to come)

Download current version (GOLEM 0.3 for CKII version 1.103) below!

View attachment GOLEM_0.3.zip

Previous versions available on request
 
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Wouldn't Romaion or Basileia Romaion be a better fit for the Greek ERE?
 

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While the word "Cymru" seems to have been in usage in this period, rulers who ruled all of Wales (or claimed that they should) are referred to as "King of the Britons". I think Brythonia would be more appropriate than Cymru for Welsh characters.
 

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Cornish was referred to as West Welsh in the early Middle Ages and Breton and Cornish were as closely related as Irish and Scots Gaelic are today. (They're Brythonic/P-Celtic, whereas the Gaelic tongues are Goidelic/Q-Celtic.)
 

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Great idea, especially the name changes for Lithuania, but is it compatible with other mods? Thanks!
Anything that doesn't alter the landed_titles file is compatible with this at the moment. :)
Wouldn't Romaion or Basileia Romaion be a better fit for the Greek ERE?
I plan for the HRE to be called the Western Roman Empire when held by Orthodox rulers. It seemed to fit, although perhaps the ERE name should apply to all Orthodox as well.
While the word "Cymru" seems to have been in usage in this period, rulers who ruled all of Wales (or claimed that they should) are referred to as "King of the Britons". I think Brythonia would be more appropriate than Cymru for Welsh characters.
That's a good point, I'll change it in the next version.
 

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Version 0.2 is up! Just a few changes at this point but note that one change is formation requirements related (still in the landed_titles file so compatibility not affected). Just a heads up.
 

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Great work, I was looking for such a mod for a long time and here you pop up. Hope you continue developing it because it's a really nice flavor addition. Sad to see that not so many mods use the culture specific title names feature. Good luck, I will definitely follow this mod.
 

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I cant wait to see how you set uo the finnic titles, I had a hard time finding info when researching them for High Kings and Consuls.

And for emperor titles, check out HKC
Finnish? I haven't got any particular plans for those titles, although that probably will happen at some point. Edit: Added to the front page with some other stuff I'm looking for opinions on.
Thanks, I'll make sure to have a look at your work :)
 
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New version 0.3 is up! This one includes a few extra changes to the Romuva faith's localisations and fixes a minor issue that had been annoying me.
 

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How about the Asian Empire for western non Helleno-Christian ERE?
In all common Western histories of the period, "Asia Minor" as a location would be more familiar than the Greek "Anatolia" (east/rising sun). It is bounded on all sides by other areas easier and more distinctive to name otherwise.

Non-Turk occupiers from the North/East could use the Altai-Mongol neologism Orunbaraghun; Persians could use Katpatuka, the original Persian name for all Anatolia and not just Cappadocia.
 
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Hmm those Romuva titles look interesting.

I suggest you change the names of the different pagan religions as well, give the unorganised versions more cultural names, like Baltic Faith instead of Romuva Faith and Altaic Faith instead of Tengri Faith. And then make the reformed versions have the neopagan names, like Romuva, Asatru, Tengri
 

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In regards to your question about a Bolghar Tartaria, I would pick Old Great Bulgaria ( or just Great Bulgaria if you prefer ) or Onoguria.

Also, i modded the game to have Volga Bulgaria appear as Mordovia if held by a Mordvin so you could do that.

As a final suggestion, i would have Tartaria appear as Great Cumania and the like depending on culture. (Tartaria is such an ugly and anachronistic term! Not sure how it would be called if held by Pechenegs tho. Patzinakia?)
 
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How about the Asian Empire for western non Helleno-Christian ERE?
In all common Western histories of the period, "Asia Minor" as a location would be more familiar than the Greek "Anatolia" (east/rising sun). It is bounded on all sides by other areas easier and more distinctive to name otherwise.

Non-Turk occupiers from the North/East could use the Altai-Mongol neologism Orunbaraghun; Persians could use Katpatuka, the original Persian name for all Anatolia and not just Cappadocia.
I like those! I'd prefer to use 'Empire of Asia Minor' if I can work out how to use short names for only some cultures though.
Ireland should be Éire when controlled by Irish cultured characters. I'm pretty sure they mostly spoke Irish back then and that's the Irish for Ireland.
I'm mostly sticking with Anglicised names unless there's no alternative that is suitable. I think I'll leave Ireland for now.
Hmm those Romuva titles look interesting.

I suggest you change the names of the different pagan religions as well, give the unorganised versions more cultural names, like Baltic Faith instead of Romuva Faith and Altaic Faith instead of Tengri Faith. And then make the reformed versions have the neopagan names, like Romuva, Asatru, Tengri
I think I will make Romuva 'Baltic' again, but Tengriism is the proper name for the Steppe religion IIRC.
In regards to your question about a Bolghar Tartaria, I would pick Old Great Bulgaria ( or just Great Bulgaria if you prefer ) or Onoguria.

Also, i modded the game to have Volga Bulgaria appear as Mordovia if held by a Mordvin so you could do that.

As a final suggestion, i would have Tartaria appear as Great Cumania and the like depending on culture. (Tartaria is such an ugly and anachronistic term! Not sure how it would be called if held by Pechenegs tho. Patzinakia?)
I like Onoguria as a name - where did you get that? Mordovia thing is a good idea too.
Great Cumania etc is already implemented (since 0.2 :))