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Canonically we're supposed to be into the 42nd Millennium, or something to that effect; it's been a while since I went into any of the stores and spoke to the staff, but from what I remember there's one or two recent novels set in the aftermath of the 13th Black Crusade.

And aye, fantasy could really do with some more love. Still upset that we lost Dogs of War as an official army list. It'd be nice to see Tilea or Estalia make an appearance, even as an expansion to the Empire rulings.

Well according to the End Times, both have been eaten by skaven. :(
 

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That's... news. The last I heard the Skaven had wasted one of the merchant cities in Tilea. Is this coming from the most recent supplement?
 

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Yeah, still haven't gotten "End Times: Nagash" myself, but from what I've heard there's just a small bit saying the skaven have conquered Estalia and Tilea. Granted this happens because the horned rat himself disbands the council of 13 and takes direct control of the skaven forces.

Rumor is that the skaven will getting an End Times book themselves though. If that's true I imagine it would have more info, and maybe even rules, for Estalia and Tilea.
 

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Yeah, still haven't gotten "End Times: Nagash" myself, but from what I've heard there's just a small bit saying the skaven have conquered Estalia and Tilea. Granted this happens because the horned rat himself disbands the council of 13 and takes direct control of the skaven forces.

Rumor is that the skaven will getting an End Times book themselves though. If that's true I imagine it would have more info, and maybe even rules, for Estalia and Tilea.

Am I the only one worried about this whole 'end times'? It makes sense on disbanding a game with a huge 'we're all going to die campaign'.
 

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Am I the only one worried about this whole 'end times'? It makes sense on disbanding a game with a huge 'we're all going to die campaign'.

Yeah, there are some rumors going around to that effect. However, I don't put much stock into them. They're releasing 6 new plastic kits (which are awesome) with this release, and will likely have more with the following books. It would make little sense to pay the costs of creating those molds if they're just going to be ending the game in a few months.
 

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Yeah, there are some rumors going around to that effect. However, I don't put much stock into them. They're releasing 6 new plastic kits (which are awesome) with this release, and will likely have more with the following books. It would make little sense to pay the costs of creating those molds if they're just going to be ending the game in a few months.
Yeah I'm just saying that it seems 'end edition of warhammer', then move it to call in orders.
 

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Yeah I'm just saying that it seems 'end edition of warhammer', then move it to call in orders.

I can see why you might think that if it was just the book being released, but I think all the evidence taken together shows this is not case. The mold for each sprue of a plastic model will cost around $50,000 to manufacture. That means that GW has likely invested $500,000 to $1,000,000 in plastic molds for this release alone. It would make absolutely no business sense for them to do this if they were planning to shut the game down in a few months. Plus, all the end times models and books have been selling like hot cakes. I believe the Nagash model was sold out in just a few hours.

What I could see happening is WFB being possibly replaced by a skirmish game of some kind with a lower entry cost. Or maybe having a skirmish game released released along side the WFB game, as way to try to get people into the game.
 

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I can see why you might think that if it was just the book being released, but I think all the evidence taken together shows this is not case. The mold for each sprue of a plastic model will cost around $50,000 to manufacture. That means that GW has likely invested $500,000 to $1,000,000 in plastic molds for this release alone. It would make absolutely no business sense for them to do this if they were planning to shut the game down in a few months. Plus, all the end times models and books have been selling like hot cakes. I believe the Nagash model was sold out in just a few hours.

What I could see happening is WFB being possibly replaced by a skirmish game of some kind with a lower entry cost. Or maybe having a skirmish game released released along side the WFB game, as way to try to get people into the game.

If anything gets me to play the game, it would be this mod.
 

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First of all this mod looks awesome and i cant wait to play it.

Second i have an idea for a new Event. There is a Theory that the Warhammer Fantasy planet is actually a planet in the 40K Universe and has lost contact to the rest through Warpstorms. That Theory also says that Sigmar was in reality one of the "Lost Primarchs" and disappeared because he returned to the 40K Emperor. To the Idea: Maybe you could add an Event that a Tyranid ship has been riped out of the Warp and has crashed on the planet were they try to grow and consume everything to get back to their Hive. Or a Ork ship crashes and now you have a small group of 40K Orks rampage through your land or they try to recriut the normal Orks for their WAAAAAGH.

Only an idea but i think it would be fun to see :)
 

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Oh Gods... Warhammer mod, i want !

Do you need some Warhammer's player for help ? ( History, protagonist, battle or other ? )
 

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Am I the only one worried about this whole 'end times'? It makes sense on disbanding a game with a huge 'we're all going to die campaign'.

On the other hand, hopefully you guys could make apocalypse/horde scenarios around them at some later point.
 

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I can see why you might think that if it was just the book being released, but I think all the evidence taken together shows this is not case. The mold for each sprue of a plastic model will cost around $50,000 to manufacture. That means that GW has likely invested $500,000 to $1,000,000 in plastic molds for this release alone. It would make absolutely no business sense for them to do this if they were planning to shut the game down in a few months. Plus, all the end times models and books have been selling like hot cakes. I believe the Nagash model was sold out in just a few hours.

What I could see happening is WFB being possibly replaced by a skirmish game of some kind with a lower entry cost. Or maybe having a skirmish game released released along side the WFB game, as way to try to get people into the game.

And to add fuel to the panic, like any good VC, several of the FW warhammer stuff have been removed from the webpage.
 
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First of all this mod looks awesome and i cant wait to play it.

Second i have an idea for a new Event. There is a Theory that the Warhammer Fantasy planet is actually a planet in the 40K Universe and has lost contact to the rest through Warpstorms. That Theory also says that Sigmar was in reality one of the "Lost Primarchs" and disappeared because he returned to the 40K Emperor. To the Idea: Maybe you could add an Event that a Tyranid ship has been riped out of the Warp and has crashed on the planet were they try to grow and consume everything to get back to their Hive. Or a Ork ship crashes and now you have a small group of 40K Orks rampage through your land or they try to recriut the normal Orks for their WAAAAAGH.

Only an idea but i think it would be fun to see :)

I certainly hope not. Implementing a 'theory' into a mod isn't a good idea. I want to play Warhammer Fantasy. Not some kind of Warhammer Fantasy/40k hybrid...
 

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First of all this mod looks awesome and i cant wait to play it.

Second i have an idea for a new Event. There is a Theory that the Warhammer Fantasy planet is actually a planet in the 40K Universe and has lost contact to the rest through Warpstorms. That Theory also says that Sigmar was in reality one of the "Lost Primarchs" and disappeared because he returned to the 40K Emperor. To the Idea: Maybe you could add an Event that a Tyranid ship has been riped out of the Warp and has crashed on the planet were they try to grow and consume everything to get back to their Hive. Or a Ork ship crashes and now you have a small group of 40K Orks rampage through your land or they try to recriut the normal Orks for their WAAAAAGH.

Only an idea but i think it would be fun to see :)

That's what it WAS in the early days, but around 2-3rd ed GW stated that Warhammer and 40k 'are not in the same universe'.

I certainly hope not. Implementing a 'theory' into a mod isn't a good idea. I want to play Warhammer Fantasy. Not some kind of Warhammer Fantasy/40k hybrid...

Especially one that has been stated as not possible.
 
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That's what it WAS in the early days, but around 2-3rd ed GW stated that Warhammer and 40k 'are not in the same universe'.
Especially one that has been stated as not possible.

Didnt know that GW has stated this. I only read about this Theory Months ago and remembered it recently when i was looking through this thread.
 

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Didnt know that GW has stated this. I only read about this Theory Months ago and remembered it recently when i was looking through this thread.

Not sure if they ever explicitly stated anything one way or the other, they just drifted apart when 40K developed its own stuff and dropped tyranids on the dwarfs and hobbits.
 

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Not sure if they ever explicitly stated anything one way or the other, they just drifted apart when 40K developed its own stuff and dropped tyranids on the dwarfs and hobbits.

During Rogue Trader days it was stated that Warhammer world was located in the Eye of Terror, but during 2nd ed it was stated that "the warhammer world is not located in the same realm as 40k." Aditionally around the same time as Rogue Trader warhammer had various 40k equipment, magic pistols that looked like bolt pistols armor said to give the wearer super human abilities and again looked like early power armor. Around the same time as above statement those were removed. The reasoning for this 40k hurt fantasy sales it made fantasy players feel insignificant.
 
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