The whole system is actually undergoing an underhaul and I believe it's top priority.
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[MOD] EMF: Extended Mechanics & Flavor
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Small suggestion regarding seduction & bastards:
A wife should be less prone to seduction if she fears her husband. Namely, if he is a landed ruler who has the "cruel" trait.
A ruler whose wife has been caught in the act should have the option to bastardize any of his children by her, incurring tyranny, however, if he does so for children born years ago.
A wife should be less prone to seduction if she fears her husband. Namely, if he is a landed ruler who has the "cruel" trait.
A ruler whose wife has been caught in the act should have the option to bastardize any of his children by her, incurring tyranny, however, if he does so for children born years ago.
Hi, love this mod, returning to it after a year or so away. Thanks for all your hard work.
I see that in the latest, 4.03 the 'raise tribal army' decisions has been removed. But the AI still seems to have access to it; playing as norse pagan my rivals seem to be buying 'event troops' with prestige. Is this intentional, or will it be changed in a future release?
I see that in the latest, 4.03 the 'raise tribal army' decisions has been removed. But the AI still seems to have access to it; playing as norse pagan my rivals seem to be buying 'event troops' with prestige. Is this intentional, or will it be changed in a future release?
Hey Zijistark, I know you've been immersed in your work on the civil war system. Did you manage to get a working beta version for a Thanksgiving gift to the community? 
Thank you Zijistark for the incredible amount of hard work you put into EMF and HIP. Happy Thanksgiving.
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I have read something about the norse cheifdans, they could asume the role as Godi. Could this be put in the mod?
Can Independence factions exist if another faction rebels? I was leading the independence faction in the newly formed HRE in a HIP game, but hadn't fired the ultimatum. All of sudden, some dickhead count in Italy starts a civil war to lower crown authority, and the faction just disappears, no action taken by the emperor to make me leave it. It just vanishes. No other factions have been affected. Is this meant to happen or was it a bug?
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Not meant to happen, but when one faction declares war, it seems that all the other factions dissolve shortly thereafter. Not sure what's up with this.
Opinion increase due to defending against a revolt causing the factions to dissolve?
Doesn't happen to
I've seen multiple revolts of claimants in my games so likely something specific to independence factions or lower crown authority revolts
I've seen multiple revolts of claimants in my games so likely something specific to independence factions or lower crown authority revolts
@zijistark: Regarding levy efficiency, the in-game tooltip talked about "centralizing", which players may confuse with the law concerning vassal limits. Of course, you're talking about increasing Crown Authority, but it did confuse me. Just some feedback. Overall, fantastic work.
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Small idea which would improve realism in certain areas:
Upon reaching adulthood, sons of female claimants will inherit their mother's claim even if she is still alive. Several examples of this happening through history:
Upon reaching adulthood, sons of female claimants will inherit their mother's claim even if she is still alive. Several examples of this happening through history:
- Stephen I claimed the English throne while his mother, the original claimant, was still living.
- Henry II claimed the English throne while his mother, Empress Matilda - the original claimant, was still alive.
- Henry Tudor's claim to the throne came from his mother, Lady Richmond, and he pressed it while she was alive. (Lady Richmond never became Queen, even though she lived throughout the entirety of her son's reign.)
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Hmm. Think this should happen all the time or under a specific set of circumstances? I've no problem with the idea; I just wonder if it'll generate too many claimants and would need to analyze the general impact on the marriage and claims game. If the mother has a strong claim (e.g., title was Agnatic-Cognatic and she was thus a pretender, which does happen often enough), it'd make more sense to me for adult male sons to transitively have a weak claim on the title. If the mother has a weak claim, well...
One of the more unfortunate things about CK2 modding: to this day, we still lack any way to draw an arbitrary relation between a character and a specific title. This is a problem which has so many negative ramifications, but presumably the most obvious is the inability to invent any types of claims besides strong & weak.
I think it should all the time. How it would work, would be for the claim to be inherited as it would be in death, only earlier. Strong Claim > Weak, Inheritable Claim > Weak, Non-Inheritable Claim
If the mother's claim is not inheritable, then the sons will simply get nothing.
PS. Hopefully we can lobby for CK3 to address the greater claims issue. I'd be thrilled if we can see succession disputes based on actual reasons, as opposed to "Just give it to me".
Ex:
- He's secretly a bastard! (for claimants who have different mothers than the holder); or maybe his <insert ancestor> was a bastard!
- His parents marriage was invalid, making him a bastard by law.
- The disputes between which version of Salic law the succession follows (assuming that the succession is even Salic)
- He follows a false religion, making me the closest faith-following heir. (Ex. Mary, Queen of Scots vs Elizabeth of England - though it is outside of our time period, it could be applied to heresies.)
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Makes sense. I'd simplify it by simply requiring sons of mothers with weak claims (regardless of whether it's pressed/inheritable) to wait until their mom dies to get whatever claim, if any, that they'd get out of that relationship. This would mean only sons of mothers with strong claims would get a weak claim upon reaching adulthood. This seems like the appropriate amount of restriction insofar as getting more realistic claim-pressing behavior in the game: it's not rare at all, but it's not going to litter the 3rd generation with claims everywhere 16 years after the 1st generation marries its kids off to the King. It also effectively limits the domain of the behavior to that of the historical references you cite and similar cases that I can imagine as plausible.
I've put this forward to the HIP team in terms of consultation for historical precedence and parameters as well as gameplay evaluation. I'll try to post something if we come to some wildly different conclusions than those here.
Yeah, @IoannesBarbarus made this point to me awhile back, and IIRC, it does make sense in pretty much all ways as long as the target heretic ruler is independent. Shared liege is possible but a little murky (no real proper "state religion" metric, as you can imagine, and some concept of that is actually necessary if going to be true to CK2's fluid heresy mechanics), but pressing claims on heretics' titles UNDER a non-heretic liege is definitely problematic. [There is also the dimension to consider of 3rd-party claim-pressing-- both what should be allowed and what the AI will be allowed to do due to it possibly not leading to optimal emergent outcomes.]
Thank you very much for the excellent feedback, BTW.
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If this isn't already implemented, can you make it so that we can imprison women who cheat on our close relatives / arrange a divorce? In vanilla, at least, we can only do this to our own wives.
Don't think I'm interested in doing this one (and the divorce part of the suggestion would be impossible), TBH.
The specific situation I had in mind was that of my heir's wife, who was staying and gave birth to another man's child during the marriage, but I won't press this further.
Please indulge my curiosity...
What is the thinking behind EMF changing the stewardship modifier bonuses for culture conversion to occur at 10,11,12,13 stewardship instead of vanilla's 9,11,13,15? EMF treats a 1-pt difference as very significant, whereas vanilla waits for a 2-pt difference before considering it noteworthy.
(I don't have a complaint or point to make; I'm just curious.)
What is the thinking behind EMF changing the stewardship modifier bonuses for culture conversion to occur at 10,11,12,13 stewardship instead of vanilla's 9,11,13,15? EMF treats a 1-pt difference as very significant, whereas vanilla waits for a 2-pt difference before considering it noteworthy.
(I don't have a complaint or point to make; I'm just curious.)