You don't even need a pair of glasses to see that TES:O is going to be appalling, much less a crystal ball.
But less about that and more about how great this mod is
But less about that and more about how great this mod is
[MOD] Elder Kings, a CK2 Elder Scrolls mod
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Yeeah... it's from an old and semi-canon piece of lore. I didn't want to start a flame war of something.
And as any good ol' ES fan... I think too that ES:O is going to end in either total failure or total failure.
And as any good ol' ES fan... I think too that ES:O is going to end in either total failure or total failure.
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Sadly it seems this thread continues to make me realize how alone I am as a ES fan in thinking the MMO might actually turn out to be good. I doubt it'll be a WoW killer, but based on what I've read and seen, it looks like they're staying true to the spirit of the games in some senses. Overall though, it does sound a bit like a Guild Wars 2 clone.
There is room for only two MMOs in this world, WoW and Eve Online, and Eve only because it is in a completely different market. Everything else is a copy of WoW and at this point WoW is and will remain unbeatable, at least until the engine becomes so outdated it's obsolete (like what happened with the pre-WoW Everquest and Ultima Online). Even Bioware backed by Activision EA (same bloody difference) couldn't pull it off, so Bethesda has zero chance.
I hope TES:O will fail and quickly, so Bethesda will not waste too much money and time on it. I prefer a great TESVI over a crappy WoW-ripoff.
I hope TES:O will fail and quickly, so Bethesda will not waste too much money and time on it. I prefer a great TESVI over a crappy WoW-ripoff.
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I knew it was going to be a total failure, when I read one of the interviews that the lead developer gave.
In it, there was a single statement that said, on the lines of, "We will be making Elder Scrolls Online with the view that gameplay takes priority over lore and everything else. Get the gameplay right, and we have a solid game, that's all that matters."
I'm sorry, but no... If your going to make an Elder Scrolls game, first and foremost is treating the lore with respect and prioritizing it. Instead, they've gone down the road of 'just another MMO' slapped with the ES label to entice the fans which is going to end up backfiring, because they got their priorities FUBAR'ed.
When I read that statement I knew instantly that it was going to fail because the developer was only concerned about gameplay and nothing in relation to how it should translate to an Elder Scrolls game.
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It was Bioware and EA that made ToR. Not Activision. Still, WoW is mediocre compared to GW2 imo.
Except its not staying true to the Elder Scrolls games at all. The gameplay was gutted* in order to shove another generic MMORPG down our throats, and the lore was gutted so the developers could have three factions with contiguous borders**. The end result is a game that is more or less a DAoC clone with an Elder Scrolls skin on it.
*Tab targeting, hotbar abilities, no mouselook, etc.
**Skyrim, Morrowind, and Black Marsh in the same faction.
You are assuming they even care about the gameplay. They pretty much gutted all the gameplay that made Elder Scrolls unique and instead they are using the same gameplay that can be found in any other MMORPG. What absolutly infuriated me is that their excuse was that latency made it impossible to port Elder Scrolls' gameplay, as if their heads were still stuck in 1999 and they completely forgot about Firefall, Planetside 1/2, Defiance, TERA, and numerous other open world games that did not rely on stale gameplay mechanics.
If you really want the inside scoop as to whats going on, read the June 2012 edition of Game Informer article. I managed to get my hands on it and the contents were damning.
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I'm actually optimistic about the Elder Scrolls Online. I don't entirely believe Zenimax will utterly gut and burn the franchise and piss on the ashes like what happened with The Old Republic. That being said, I fully expect The Elders Scrolls VI in four years.
Back to good game conversation. Is there anything inclining provincial powers to keep to their provinces, or in 150 years of gameplay should we expect nonsensical glomps and checkerboard demesne's?
Really? Wasn't aware that I had assumed anything...
I assumed that the game would be a complete flop before it's even out, and my assumption is based on the current evidence of the game in it's current form. Never said they cared for gameplay, merely that's what the developer had stated.
I'm well aware of the lack of care they've given or seem to have given to gameplay in general.
One can only hope that Bethesda has or will intervene on behalf of it's own franchise if it feels the game is in a state that is unworthy or could hurt future sales of one it's beloved core games. If Zenimax doesn't deliver, Parent Corp. will torpedo TES:O quickly.
It's not actually being developed by Bethesda; it's Zenimax's own "online studio".
Yeah, that's what I thought... sort of limits what options Bethesda has with regards to TES:O.
Considering for many years, Bethesda has stated that they disliked the idea of an Elder Scrolls MMORPG... it makes you wonder.
So Zenimax is a heresy of Bethesda, then.
Oh, wait, wrong game.
Actually, Bethesda is the heresy of Zenimax.
They're probably not talking crap about it because of the money behind it. Wait a couple of years (or months even, take a look at the Old Republic), and you'll see how it goes "half-free to play", as I like to call this new generation of f2p games, and Bethesda devs start talking bad about it. They should've done like with the WH40k mmorpg and cancel it right away.
Anyway.... any dev post a new shiny screen of the mod before this derrails more and Korbah gets mad at us.
I would love to show you the huge, slightly unrelated family project I've been working on for the last two days, but Korbah would probably stick to his guns and prohibit it.
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